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Old 12-03-2009, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Please give me the solution of my problem!!

i have intel original mb 946gzis and two ddr2 ram of one which is kingston 1gb and other is transcend 512mb both have the speed of 667 mhz. iand my hdd is wd 250gb aajs version with iball 400w psu. these days (i.e. from 1 week) i am having problem with my system. my problem is that when i work with it for long hours and after that i shut down it, then it takes 6 to 7 hours to restart. in the mean time if i restart it then there is no display also there is no light on on the keyboard or in mouse. and after 6-7 hours it is normal again, there is diplay in it. "can you tell me wat is happening on it". right now i m running it only with 1gb of ram.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Update ur antivirus and do a boot time scan.
Use hijack this and remove any suspicious service running in background.
and you can use combofix also. download it and use carefully and after that run the virus scan.

If the problem persists then post the hijack this log file here.
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Smps problem,chk if smps fan is running when there is no display after restarting...
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Old 13-03-2009, 12:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Smps problem,chk if smps fan is running when there is no display after restarting...
i try to start my pc when in bad condition with another psu but the condition is same. i think this may be due to motherboard. but dont know in wat section!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update ur antivirus and do a boot time scan.
Use hijack this and remove any suspicious service running in background.
and you can use combofix also. download it and use carefully and after that run the virus scan.

If the problem persists then post the hijack this log file here.
can you tell wat is hijack this and combofix i never heard of these and never use them. please tell me the whole process how to use hijack this and also tell me is it safe to use these type of softwares. also my antivirus is "avast" and it is always updated. i also use spybot antispyware with this for the extra security! is my solution of antivirus ok or i have to change it ito another one? please tell me the good free antivirus solution besides avast!
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I too use a combo of avast and spybot. These are best acc. to me.

Have you done a boot time scan from both of these. If not then do as follows:

For Avast:
Click on Menu icon(Top left)
Then click shedule boot time scan and then select the required options and click ok.

For Spybot:
Click on Mode menu next to file menu(second from top left)
Click advanced >Settings>settings> and scrol down to Automation > then system start and then select the option run programme once at next system start up.

Then restart.

But it will be better if U use hijack this first. It can be download form net or can be find on digit DVD may be on any freeware issue. Its a small utility.

Use it its safe as you can make a backup before fixing the problem.

And combo fix is the utility which cleans all the unexpected services then it become easy for virus cleaner to detect them and clean.

and one more thing use Host expert before Combo fix.

all these are small utilities and can be downloaded online for free. and there usage are also there.

and feel free to use them they are safe.

If it will be virus problem then it will be done for sure.

If it works do tell and if not post ,it may be ur hard disk/temporary files/registery junk etc also.
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is this your problem or solution toofan?
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Old 13-03-2009, 12:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i will use it shortly and reply you.
there is one more symptom of hardware failure of mine. i have two windows loaded on my system one is Winxp home and other is windows seven beta version. there is a utility before booting because of windows seven which is called memoru diagnostic, when i use it then after 30% of test it says "that there is a issue with my memory to clear it or to check it contact hardware manager". can you tell tell wat type of hardware failure it is, also i checked my both ram on other system it is working fine, i m also attaching the screenshot of one of my error.

Please tell me the other motherboard solution only in gigabyte (i.e. 4 RAM slots, 1 IDE slot, 1 pci*16 slot is must). i can spare on it only Rs.2500-3000.

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Old 14-03-2009, 05:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Here are some possibilities:

1. Check or replace the CMOS battery. Some motherboards can operate without a battery (they just cannot keep user settings), but they show weird behaviour with a weak battery. Remove it and test the voltage with a multimeter if you have one.

2. Disconnect and reconnect everything. (Turn off power and disconnect from the mains first!!). Everything means RAM sticks, PSU connectors to motherboard, gfx card, etc.

3. The problem could be heat-related. Most heat-related problems appear when the defective part has warmed up, but it occasionally happens that a defective part has to be warmed up first before it can work properly. To test for this, take a hair dryer, turn on the computer and blow warm air BRIEFLY on various parts of the computer (RAM etc) and see if it comes on.

BTW, it's a good idea to give some indication of the nature of your problem in the subject line.
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If its not virus problem then try this:

Try removing one of the RAM alternately and check if the problem still persists.

Try formatting the Window 7 installation. But make it ur last option.
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Old 14-03-2009, 09:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Please suggest me a good baord in price range of Rs.2500-3000. i want a baord which has 4 RAM slots supporting ram of DDR2 min.667mhz frequency and max.1066. and i need 1 PCI*16 slot and one IDE slot. these are the must points which i want in my board(my config. is intel pentium D 800FSB 3.0GHz, RAM= 1Gb DDR2 of kingston having frequency 667MHz and latency is 5-5-5-5, and my other RAM is of transcend of same frequency and same latency, 250Gb SATA HDD of WD, 400W PSU) suggest the Motherboard for this config. i like to buy "gigabyte".
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Here are some possibilities:

1. Check or replace the CMOS battery. Some motherboards can operate without a battery (they just cannot keep user settings), but they show weird behaviour with a weak battery. Remove it and test the voltage with a multimeter if you have one.

2. Disconnect and reconnect everything. (Turn off power and disconnect from the mains first!!). Everything means RAM sticks, PSU connectors to motherboard, gfx card, etc.

3. The problem could be heat-related. Most heat-related problems appear when the defective part has warmed up, but it occasionally happens that a defective part has to be warmed up first before it can work properly. To test for this, take a hair dryer, turn on the computer and blow warm air BRIEFLY on various parts of the computer (RAM etc) and see if it comes on.

BTW, it's a good idea to give some indication of the nature of your problem in the subject line.
THx for the suggestion i have not try your first solution but today i will try it.
and for your second solution i remove everything when my pc is not starting but again there is no response from the MB and also there is no beep sound after removing the RAM. but after 6-7 hours again it started and works well for 7-8 hours. i think my MB needs some repairing. just because of that i am thinking for the backup solution of my MB. please suggest me a good board, which has good capacitors or chips which can resist heat.
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If its not virus problem then try this:

Try removing one of the RAM alternately and check if the problem still persists.

Try formatting the Window 7 installation. But make it ur last option.
My HDD is working well and my both OS`s are working well on other computer, and i am running my system only on one RAM.
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Old 14-03-2009, 10:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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When you are saying another psu- are you trying with the same scrap?
Google and download orthos. Run the stress test for 5 hours. If it restarts then its a hardware issue. I would be skeptical to run this on an el cheapo psu. Run HDtune's error scan. If there's any bad sectors- time to replace the hard drive. After doing this- only then we will know if its hardware OR a software issue
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Finally i got my motherboard repaired now it is working fine. but for a backup of my motherboard i choose a good solution from gigabytr it is GA-EG31m-S21.
It is a energy saver board as gigabyte claims i like it. please tell me it is good or not i have only budget of Rs. 2500/= strictly.
and thanx for the above suggestions.
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Finally i got my motherboard repaired now it is working fine. but for a backup of my motherboard i choose a good solution from gigabytr it is GA-EG31m-S21.
It is a energy saver board as gigabyte claims i like it. please tell me it is good or not i have only budget of Rs. 2500/= strictly.
and thanx for the above suggestions.
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You should have used a good psu in the first place. Most probably your iball 400w allready damaged the motherboard. Even if you change the psu, the damage due to the old psu will still be there on the motherboard. Next time, make efforts to get a decent psu with your rig from the start- or else you will end up repairing the board- or worse even replacing the system itself.
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get a tech guy and have a look at ur mb. Continuing like will damage ur mb.

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Looks like a suspicious case of a faulty PSU
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Old 29-03-2009, 03:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
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MSI G31M2 V1
MSI G31M2 V2
G31M4-L
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m having little trouble finding 4 DIMM slot mobos from gigabyte and Asus

the mobo you are counting is GA-EG31m-S21 or GA-EG31m-S2L, anyhow these have only 2 DIMM slots.

run the tests sorcerer and pimpom have said, PSU can be the real culprit or some BIOS/mobo problem
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so please tell a good PSU unit of 600W.under Rs.1000/=. i will purchase the PSU first then think of the board.
If possible then suggest me a cooler master PSU under 1000 bucks.
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so please tell a good PSU unit of 600W.under Rs.1000/=. i will purchase the PSU first then think of the board.
If possible then suggest me a cooler master PSU under 1000 bucks.
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so please tell a good PSU unit of 600W.under Rs.1000/=. i will purchase the PSU first then think of the board.
If possible then suggest me a cooler master PSU under 1000 bucks.
Things dont work that way. Any moron can label a 100w with substandard wiring as a 600w. Its because this kind of wrong analysis that people end up with their systems damaged- and still leaving people clueless and scratching their heads out. Dont be suprised when I say that there are at times that bad power supplies can also be a fire hazard- so if you see it this way the last thing you will worry about is your system.
Read the power supply guide and choose one of the recommended power supplies. I think only thing you can afford is vip silver 400w- 500w with active pfc- it will be mentioned on the box where technical specs are or on the psu. Should cost 1.5k- 1.8k!! Anything below this is a comprimise and its you who is taking risk.
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Old 30-03-2009, 10:53 AM   #18 (permalink)
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there is one antec 400W PSU too available in 800-900 bucks
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^^ How can a 800- 900 bucks worth psu can give equally worth capacitors, main caps, active pfc, MOVs, good quality pfc, equally good quality wires and 16AWG wires on rails which are needed?- not to forget cooling and casing alongwith warranty period.
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Pity the OP is not from Kolkata. Jindal Computers in Kolkata have their own brand of 450W PSU, manufactured in their factory in China. (I'm not from Kolkata either, but I buy lots of stuff from the city).

I've fitted it in dozens of computers for friends and acquaintances over the past 4/5 years and only one has failed so far. And that was after a severe power fluctuation.

It has a large quiet fan and build quality is OK. Price should be less than 1k.
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