RAM suggestion

[RMN]

hello guys.
i already have a 2gb DDR2 Transcend RAM@800Mhz.
i want to upgrade with a 2*2gb @800Mhz Kit.
what is the cheapest and the best 2*2gb @800Mhz module from Corsair,G Skill and OCZ.
OCing is not important and my budget is 4k MAX but would love to buy in the range of 3k!

and have DDR2 prices reduced in India?
thank you

how are these models?

G-Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ (2GB x 2) 800 MHz @ 3.2k

Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5(2 X 2GB DDR2 800MhZ C5) @3.3K

[ashu888ashu888]

Both G skill and Corsair are gr8 brands buddy..
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I myself hv a Corsair RAM (see my siggy)..

But, u can go for any of the above brands, take a RAM which has low latency..

[Dark Core]

I bought 2 Gigs of Transcend 667 RAM, a couple of months back I just costed my 1600 bucks, 800 MHz should cost somewhere near

[RMN]

hmm...if im not OCing how diff will be the performance bet a transcend and Corsair/G Skill/OCZ?

ok guys help me decide between
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5
Each module pair is tested together at 800MHz

Tested and packaged in pairs
Packaged together immediately following
system test
Tested at JEDEC standard latency settings
(5-5-5-18 )at 1.9V
SPD programmed at:
JEDEC standard 5-5-5-18 values at
800MHz


or

GSkill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ

CAS_Latency 5-5-5-15
Capacity 4GB (2GB x 2)
Speed DDR2-800 (PC2-6400)
Test_Voltage 1.8 ~ 1.9 Volts
PCB 6 Layers
Unbuffered
Error_Checking Non-ECC
Type 240-pin DIMM

[ashu888ashu888]

hmm...if im not OCing how diff will be the performance bet a transcend and Corsair/G Skill/OCZ?

Well, if NOT OCing, and as per the above 2 options (Corsair and G SKill)

Go for G Skill... as it has got less latency as compared to the Corsair one..
but yes, this is also a FACT that Corsair RAMs hv a 10Year warranty, so if i were u, i wud hv gone for Corsair....(even though the latency is a bit on the higher side)..

[RMN]

thanks..
but both the companies provide Lifetime warranty right?
btw any idea if the model of GSkill provide those cool stickers?

and couple of Q's
-its ok to use it along with the transcend right?
-any known issues when using on MSI P45 Neo-F?

anyone!?

and how is the customer supp for G Skill?
any idea abt their service center?

[ashu888ashu888]

RAMs of different brands can be used BUT BUT BUT ONLY if their Latencies match EXACTLY same.. like 3-3-3-12 or sum thing of this sort, hope ur doubt is cleared now..

also, Corsair offers 10Yr warranty on its products, i hv no idea abt g Skill man..

[RMN]

i meant a Gskill/corsair kit on dual channel and Transcend on the 3rd slot.
there wont be any computability issues right?
btw my transcend latency is 5-5-5-18 and the GSkill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ has 5-5-5-15....that's hardly any difference right?is Gskill worth the extra money??

[ashu888ashu888]

^^

well, i think (afaik) the 15 And 18 shud also match, but i'll hv to search the net for tat...

ANd YES, G SKill or a Corsair are worth that extra bucks tats for sure buddy..

[RMN]

hmmm...thanks
but are you SURE that the 0-0-0-3 lower latency would make a huge diff in Gkill/Corsair?
im sry to ask again...its just that i want to make sure the money i spent is worth while...

[comp@ddict]

Man get anyone of them. If you had an AMD CPU, then your need would have been one with

CAS latency - - 4-4-4-12


BTW, anyone noes of a 4GB kit with the aforementioned timings? Please tell me, post here or PM me ASAP!!!!!

[ashu888ashu888]

hmmm...thanks
but are you SURE that the 0-0-0-3 lower latency would make a huge diff in Gkill/Corsair?
im sry to ask again...its just that i want to make sure the money i spent is worth while...

Dnt be sorry dude,.. well, even im not sure abt the 0-0-0-3 making a huge difference or wat,

I think the overall performance also depends on ur system specs (for these RAMs to giv ultimate performance) i may be wrong, but even im not tat expert in these things..

[RMN]

thanks again..
ill probably get another Transcend itself.

btw...just curious,are there single 4gb stick for desktops?

[ashu888ashu888]

I dnt think so.. u get a max of 2GB RAM stick

[The Sorcerer]

Make sure its cl4. Seen pretty good difference on 64 bit vista sp1.

[RMN]

will 3dsmax,maya etc work well on Vista 64bit with 4 gb ram?

[The Sorcerer]

^^ I dont see why not!

[ashu888ashu888]

will 3dsmax,maya etc work well on Vista 64bit with 4 gb ram?

Ooh yes, ofcourse it will, without a doubt bro...

[comp@ddict]

CAS latency - - 4-4-4-12


BTW, anyone noes of a 4GB kit with the aforementioned timings? Please tell me, post here or PM me ASAP!!!!!

Anybody???

[RMN]

^^
you are looking for a 4gb kit with 4-4-4-12 timings?

G-Skill F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI

Originally Posted by ashu888ashu888

I dnt think so.. u get a max of 2GB RAM stick

then how do we achieve the 16gb limit if only 2gb module's are available?

[comp@ddict]

Price in India?^^^^^

[ashu888ashu888]

then how do we achieve the 16gb limit if only 2gb module's are available?

Where hv u read this ??

Coz, on the Core i7, the max RAM supported is 12GB (2GBx6 slots)

[realdan]

Originally Posted by ashu888ashu888

I dnt think so.. u get a max of 2GB RAM stick

Where hv u read this ??
Coz, on the Core i7, the max RAM supported is 12GB (2GBx6 slots)

@ashu888ashu88
I am afraid you need to do a lot more readings, ...am much surprised that you dont know these things despite buying the new system based on the new platform

@RMN is correct about his\her logic

then how do we achieve the 16gb limit if only 2gb module's are available?

just because your evga x58 motherboard only support max 12GB memory doesn't mean that it applies to all other motherboard...

for your information ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 support maximum of 24GB of memory...

one stick of 4GB is in the market
G.SKILL 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad Kit Desktop Memory

[RMN]

Originally Posted by comp@ddict

Price in India?^^^^^

4k at ITWares

@realdon
tnx

[ashu888ashu888]

@realdan:

thanx for the update buddy, yup, im still in the process of geting to knw sum new things, I did read the review of tat Asus P6T mobo, and it jus slipped outta my mind..
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@RMN: so sorry buddy, my info was incomplete..

[comp@ddict]

G-Skill

F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ(2GB x 2) 800 MHz - - - - Rs.3000

F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI (2GB x 2) 800 MHz - - - - Rs.4000

F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK (2GB x 2) 800 MHz - - - - - Rs4350

F2-8800 CL5D- 4GBPI (2GB x 2) 800 MHz - - - - - 4400

Cud you tell me the difference between the four? Please anybody.

[RMN]

@comp@ddict
im not the best at this but here you go
F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ(2GB x 2) 800 MHz-good ram latency 5-5-5-15,bad OCer
F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI (2GB x 2) 800 MHz-very good RAM,better latency 4-4-4-12 ,better heat spreders,better OCer and you gett couple of cool stickers..OCC had a positive review.

F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK- dont know much but acc to spec i has higher volts,4-4-4-12

F2-8800 CL5D- 4GBPI
CAS_Latency 5-5-5-15
Speed DDR2-1100 (PC2-8800)
Test_Voltage 1.8 ~ 1.9 Volts
PCB 8 Layers PCB ---the others are 6 layers
and just like 6400CL4D-4GBPI has better heat spreaders and stickers.
So after countless hours of benchmarking and sweat, where do we stand with G.Skill's F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI memory kit? The F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI is sort of a mixed bag. On the bright side, with stock speeds of DDR-1100 at a miserly 1.9V, you don't have to worry about the memory not having enough voltage while booting up that you can run into with some higher voltage modules. Also factor in a supported FSB of 550Mhz, this kit should make most casual overclockers happy.

On the down side, overclocking wasn't quite what I expected out of this kit as it didn't respond at all to higher voltage and actually seemed to become more unstable if you pushed more than 1.9V into it.

To sum things up, the F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI is a good kit as long as you don't expect too much above stock speeds. However, with attractive heatspreaders and even more attractive prices of DDR2, this is a great kit to add 4 gigabytes of memory for very little dough

i say,if you are no OCing go for F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ 800 MHz
anf if you are F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI 800 MHz

[comp@ddict]

and if you are F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI 800 MHz

Thanks mate for that info.
And i'm for this one surely.

[RMN]

btw just check the review
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gskill_pi_cl4/

and maybe just wait for some more suggestions...

oh
"So after countless hours of benchmarking and sweat, where do we stand with G.Skill's F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI memory kit? The F2-8800CL5D-4GBPI is sort of a mixed bag. On the bright side, with stock speeds of DDR-1100 at a miserly 1.9V, you don't have to worry about the memory not having enough voltage while booting up that you can run into with some higher voltage modules. Also factor in a supported FSB of 550Mhz, this kit should make most casual overclockers happy.

On the down side, overclocking wasn't quite what I expected out of this kit as it didn't respond at all to higher voltage and actually seemed to become more unstable if you pushed more than 1.9V into it."

frm my prev post was from a review on http://www.overclockersonline.net/?p...um=1981&pnum=8

[comp@ddict]

RMN, this came to my mind just now. I don't need the RAM for OCing, I'm planning on the Phenom II X4 940 B.E., I'll be simply increasing the multiplier for OCing, not the bus speed.

So now where do we stand,
1. 4-4-4-12 CAS latency DDR2 800MHz
or
2. 5-5-5-15 CAS latency DDR2 1100MHz(are u sure, or is it 1066MHz?)

Note:- We have to keep in mind that the performance increase when switching from 5-5-5-15 DDR2 667MHz to 5-5-5-15 DDR2 800MHz on an AMD platform gave 6% improvement in performance.
Whereas when 4-4-4-12 DDR2 800MHz was used instead of 5-5-5-15 DDR2 800MHz, there was a phenomenal 17% improvement.

So now where do we stand, a faster DDR2 1100MHz or a low latency DDR2 800MHz, keeping in mind AMD platform favours lower latencies than higher speeds more.


That's the reason DDR3 AM3 Phenom CPUs don't give more than 5% increase in performance since DDR3 RAM latency is way higher than DDR2.