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    Default Re: Graphics Cards related queries here.

    All the current gen cards, including your GTS 450, are PCI-E 2.1 card n they are fully backward compatible with PCI-E 1.1. So, get the HD 6770 which is slightly better than gts 450. 2ndly, I don't think there won't be much bottleneck with any cards up to 6770. And regarding pricing, HD 6670 is available around 5.4K in most of the Online shops and around 5K locally. My friend just bought one at 5K + 4% tax today in Kolkata.

    Also I think your mobo has PCI-E 2.0 compliant.

    Regarding Graphics card prices provided by you, I thik GTS 450 has the best performance/price ratio. But make sure it is the 1 GB GDDR5 version, currently lots of cheap DDR3 versions are available in the market which offers far lower performance than the GDDR5 version. In fact, for all the chosen cards, make sure you're getting the GDDR5 version.

    Now tell us what PSU or SMPS you're having? If it is a cheap local PSU from Frontech, Intex or Zebronics then they are not gonna support GTS 450 or other cards. Tell us the exact model number of the PSU.
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    Hey!

    I checked both the Zotac and MSI ones. Both are 2.0, hence asked.

    Ok, i thought my mobo was 1.1, i guess i'll go with 6770 then. It costs 7200 here in chennai. Know any good retailers where I can get it from for cheaper?

    BTW, I have a corsair CX430 V2.

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    Then no problem with the PSU, can easily handle even a HD 6850. And I think the price you've mentioned, get the GTS 450. If you're open to online purchase then check sites like:
    1. Smcinternational.in
    2. Theitwares.com
    3. Deltapage.com
    4. Techshop.in

    All of them, specially the 1st three are very reliable and lots of members, including me, have experience with them.
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    Default Re: Graphics Cards related queries here.

    Today's Cool Deal !

    How about that one? Are they reliable?

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    yes. primeabgb is a trusted shop from Mumbai.

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    My present configuration

    CPU - AMD Athlon64 3200+
    Mobo -Sapphire RS480
    GPU - None
    PSU - CM xtreme Power 380W
    HDD - WD 250 GB sata 2
    Ram - 1 GB (DDR 400 Mhz)
    OD - Liteon Sata Drive

    After my 6600Gt died 3 years back, I dont have any GPU in my system
    Recently saw a deal for MSI 8800GT OC Edition in Rs. 2000

    Basically planning to use system as HTPC and play .mkv files , my xbox dont support that format.

    Now as TDP of 8800GT is 105W Obviously OC edition will have even higher TDP.
    so my queries.

    1. Can cooler master 380 w will be able to run mentioned 8800GT
    2. Which is wiser decision (but 2nd hand 8800Gt in Rs 2000 or any new low range card say GT430/520/HD 5550 @3.5 K (former will have better performance but might not run in my system, later lower TDp and ofcourse Brand new )
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    Do you need HDMI to carry sound? For an HTPC, that is must. Get GT 430.

    If you don't need sound over HDMI, buy 8800GT. Your PSU is not enough. I suggest sticking with GT 430 only.

    And new PSU + 8800GT will cost around 4K. In 4K, you can buy HD 5670, which is a slightly faster card than 8800GT with much lower power consumption. Your PSU is likely to run HD 5670 fine, rather than 8800 GT.
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    Default re: Basic information regarding graphic cards for newbies

    keep checking for used HD5670 instead of 8800GT. used HD5670 will cost ~3k but will offer better performance than 8800GT & can be overclocked (specially Sapphire with Arctic cooler).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskanwar Singh View Post
    And people say human bots dont exist

    @ ico and Sam, Will be getting a GT 430/HD 6570 or may be a used 5670

    Thanks All...
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    Default *** Need Graphic Card Buying Advice Thread ***

    Hi Team,

    I want to buy a New Graphic Card, I have mentions my PC specs / requirement below . Kindly Suggest...

    My present configuration

    CPU - Intel Q6600 @ 2.4 Ghz

    Mobo -Gigabyte EP-45-DQ6

    GPU - Zortac 9800 GT Eco Edition

    PSU - CM xtreme Power plus 600W ( Model No : RS-600-PCAR-E3)

    HDD(ALL SATA) - Seagate 160 GB for OS
    WD 500 GB for Apps / Games
    WD 1 TB for Storage
    Seagate 2 TB for storage

    Ram - Corsair XMS2 6 GB (DDR2 800 Mhz)

    Budget for New Card : 10k - 13 K

    Game resolution: 1080p ( Usually on 40" TV : Response time of 10ms )

    Want to Play Crysis2 , battlefield3 GTA4 ( Unable to enjoy any of them right now)

    Also suggest a online store OR Shop in NCR.

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    Cool re: *** Graphic Card Buying Advice TEMPLATE ***

    Hey guyz......
    i want to buy a graphic card so that i can play upcomming games like GTA5 and all ....... and present games too like Crysis 2 , Battle Field 3 , Metro 2033 ,etc .
    My current specs.....

    AMD PHENOM IIX4 955 BLACK EDITION
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    ASUS M4A78LT-M LE
    XFX RADEON HD 4670 1 GB DDR3
    COOLER MASTER ELITE POWER 460W (will be upgrading it after 3-4 months to corsair cx 520 watt,dont worry about the PSU )
    18.5' monitor (1366x768)

    i mostly wanted to buy the hd 6850 which is costing me about 9k to 9.3 k in nehru place .... my budget is max 9.5 k
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    Default re: *** Graphic Card Buying Advice TEMPLATE ***

    For both of you HD 6850 is the best choice.

    And you both need to get a reliable PSU as well. Cooler Master Extreme and Elite Power Series are not reliable.
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    Default Re: Graphics Cards related queries here.

    Quote Originally Posted by arnab.d287 View Post
    Not one of the best, but it's good. Sapphire and MSI are the great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnab.d287 View Post

    Yeah, its good.
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    That is not at all any good card, infact it is a poor choice. 1st of all this middle end cards like HD 6670, HD 5670 are not powerful enough to use the 2 GB of VRam. They are just for marketting gimmik.

    2ndly these cards come with 128 bit memory BUS and rely upon the high speed GDDR5 memory to get the high bandwitdh. So if you remove the GDDR5 from these cards and provide a cheaper DDR3 (Not even GDDR3) ram, more than 3 times slower than GDDR5 version, the cards will suffer from lower memory bandwidth and provide very poor performance compared to their GDDR5 counterparts.

    Start reading this thread:
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    Good in the sense referred to the company, not the card. Overlooked the 6670.
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    Default Re: Graphics Cards related queries here.

    By the way, forgot to let you guys know. I got the 6770! Trying it out on older games (2007-2008) for now. It runs great but I think it heats a lot.

    The AMD overdrive is says 42 to 45 when idle and 67 to 74 while on load (that too old game? :O ).

    I also expected my PSU to become hotter but I think it is around 55 to 60 while running a game. Is it normal?


    Performance wise, no issues. Thanks guys! Owe you!

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    ^^ normal for HD6770.

    why this card flops (Cilus's explanation in non-technical terms):

    1. to use 2Gb VRAM you'll need to run games on Full HD + everything maxed out which this card can't handle. even 2XHD6770 in CFX mayn't be enough to handle such extreme gaming.
    2. GDDR3 is slower than GDDR5. if not the clock then bandwidth. so hardly 1Gb will be used while the rest of the memory will be sitting idle forever. 1Gb fast VRAM is enough for this GPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murzar View Post
    By the way, forgot to let you guys know. I got the 6770! Trying it out on older games (2007-2008) for now. It runs great but I think it heats a lot.

    The AMD overdrive is says 42 to 45 when idle and 67 to 74 while on load (that too old game? :O ).

    I also expected my PSU to become hotter but I think it is around 55 to 60 while running a game. Is it normal?


    Performance wise, no issues. Thanks guys! Owe you!
    which game? which card (i mean company and model)?
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    Default Re: Graphics Cards related queries here.

    Thanks for the suggestions. Will be looking for HIS, Sapphire or XFX when I buy it.. (1gb it will be)

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    ^^ go for Sapphire, MSI or Powercolor. no to XFX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    ^^ go for Sapphire, MSI or Powercolor. no to XFX.
    Ok. What about HIS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnab.d287 View Post
    Ok. What about HIS?
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    Default Re: Graphics Cards related queries here.

    Hey.. Will anyone tell me the The Advantages and disadvantages of CrossfireX and SLI?
    If there Is Another Thread about this, then please post the link... Thnxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by arnab.d287 View Post
    Ok. What about HIS?

    HIS is OKish. If you find the IceQ version then they are good. Keep it as a last resort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by divyam View Post
    Hey.. Will anyone tell me the The Advantages and disadvantages of CrossfireX and SLI?
    If there Is Another Thread about this, then please post the link... Thnxx
    Advantages: Better performance, more FPS.
    Disadvantages: Configuration issues, game may crash, it may not work, or FPS could become lower, fixed by game patches or driver updates, but the problems could hinder gameplay for months till the fix comes.

    My Take: Not worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkin View Post
    Advantages: Better performance, more FPS.
    Disadvantages: Configuration issues, game may crash, it may not work, or FPS could become lower, fixed by game patches or driver updates, but the problems could hinder gameplay for months till the fix comes.

    My Take: Not worth it.
    Are there any overheating or poor power efficiency issues also present??

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