Graphics Cards related queries here.

[rohit32407]

I have one query regarding my GPU. I just installed a MSI R6770 MD1GD5. According to the specifications given on the MSI website its core clock should be 800 MHz and memory clock should be 4400 MHz but when i open catalyst control center and go to the hardware information page it shows Core Clock as 800 MHz and Memory Clock as 1100 MHz and memory bandwidth as 70.4 gb/s. I don't know if its even an issue but i would still need some expert opinion on that.

My total config is like this
Processor- Core i5 2310
Mobo- Intel DH61ww
RAM- A-DATA 4 GB 1333 Mhz(dual channel)
PSU- FSP Saga II 500 W
HDD- Seagate barracuda 500 GB 7200 RPM

I am just not being able to understand why it shows memory clock as 1100 MHz. Every other aspect is just as per specifications given on the MSI website except for memory clock.

[Jaskanwar Singh]

^^its fine. dont worry.

[sam]

memory clock should be 4400 MHz

thats 4400Mhz is the data rate, not memory clock. memory clock is 1100Mhz.

[quad_core]

hi guys.
Since multi-GPU is the current topic in this thread, I have a question for you. I have a spare Geforce 7600GS (Brand:BIG, I think its from Galaxy actually). Can i install it in my system as a second card , and will it help in improving frame rates? Will my system support it ?
Thanks
-QuadCore

[Jaskanwar Singh]

^no...!

[d6bmg]

hi guys.
Since multi-GPU is the current topic in this thread, I have a question for you. I have a spare Geforce 7600GS (Brand:BIG, I think its from Galaxy actually). Can i install it in my system as a second card , and will it help in improving frame rates? Will my system support it ?
Thanks
-QuadCore

Dude, GTS 7 series is back-dated card You can't even use it as physix card.

[Cilus]

GDDR5 ram ram operates 4 times faster than a normal ram with same frequency. So if there is a GDDR5 ram of X MHz, the effective speed is 4X MHz when compared to a standard Memory because it transfers data four times faster than a normal ram in a single clock cycle. Similarly GDDR3 transfer data twice faster than a normal memory module with same frequency.

So the speed of the GDDR5 Graphics ram is 1100 MHz means its effective speed is 1100MHz X 4 = 4400 MHz.

[clear_lot]

get ready for xdr2, that is 8 times the RAM frequency.
so its 2x ddr5

[kratos5589]

Hi,
I am looking for a new graphics Card
I had bought a 8800GT 3 years back and I loved the Card. Unfortunately the card has stopped working now hence the replacement.
I will eventually upgrade my whole PC and am currently looking for a gphcs Card to put into that system. My budget for the card is 15-20k.
After searching I have found out 6950 is a good card in that range.
Should I go for 6950 or the 6970. Is it worth the xtra cash.
Or should i pick up GTX 570.

[Skud]

If you can extend your budget, get the 6970. Or else, you can wait for 2-3 months for the Radeon 7000 series. If you want PhysX & CUDA, then GTX 570 can be considered. Else, 6970 is a better option with more framebuffer.

[d3p]

Hi,
I am looking for a new graphics Card
I had bought a 8800GT 3 years back and I loved the Card. Unfortunately the card has stopped working now hence the replacement.
I will eventually upgrade my whole PC and am currently looking for a gphcs Card to put into that system. My budget for the card is 15-20k.
After searching I have found out 6950 is a good card in that range.
Should I go for 6950 or the 6970. Is it worth the xtra cash.
Or should i pick up GTX 570.

Which PSU you have ?? Possible then post the complete Config details.

[d6bmg]

Very good point mentioned by d3, as low end PSU have teh power to kill your latest GPU which you are going to buy.

[kratos5589]

Hi,

I have COOler Master eXtreme 600W PSU.
It wouldnt matter because eventually I am going to upgrade my whole system. As my graphics has stoipped working i need 1 immediately. But within the next 2 months I am gonna buy a whole new System, hence I dont care if it wouldnt work to the fullest in the current PSU.
And also to add to my question, how much improvement would be buy another MSI 6950 and put it in Crossfire. By doing this I would eventually shed 30k on gphcs card, so is it better to do this or rather buy a gphcs card of 30k.

Thanks.

[d6bmg]

Then GTX 570 is the appropriate card for you.

[MegaMind]

Hi,

I have COOler Master eXtreme 600W PSU.
It wouldnt matter because eventually I am going to upgrade my whole system. As my graphics has stoipped working i need 1 immediately. But within the next 2 months I am gonna buy a whole new System, hence I dont care if it wouldnt work to the fullest in the current PSU.
And also to add to my question, how much improvement would be buy another MSI 6950 and put it in Crossfire. By doing this I would eventually shed 30k on gphcs card, so is it better to do this or rather buy a gphcs card of 30k.

Thanks.

Well, right now consider u are having a 400W PSU.. Dont ever try to pull more than 420W(max.) from COOler Master eXtreme power plus 600W unit...

Regarding the GPU part, i would suggest you to wait for the AMD 7000 series cards... If u need it right now, get HD 6970 with a good 650W PSU...

Also can u post ur full config...?

Then GTX 570 is the appropriate card for you.

Buddy, do not that the cooler master's Extreme power(bomb) plus PSUs are not at all reliable...

[kratos5589]

Well, right now consider u are having a 400W PSU.. Dont ever try to pull more than 420W(max.) from COOler Master eXtreme power plus 600W unit...

Regarding the GPU part, i would suggest you to wait for the AMD 7000 series cards... If u need it right now, get HD 6970 with a good 650W PSU...

Also can u post ur full config...?



Buddy, do not that the cooler master's Extreme power(bomb) plus PSUs are not at all reliable...

I am leaning towards waiting for the 7000 series.
My config is -
CPU - Intel C2d E8400 3.0 GHz,
MOBO - MSI P7N SLI Platinum 750i
RAM - 3 GB DDR2 RAM,
GPU - MSI 8800GT (deceased)

Can some1 address my question about 2 6950's in CF.
How much improvement is that. I read that it can create problems like microstutter while playing games.

Thank you.

[Skud]

Not the 69xx series, read here to know more:

Micro-Stuttering And GPU Scaling In CrossFire And SLI : Micro-Stuttering, Multi-Card Scaling, And More!

[Cilus]

If you are getting more FPS than 30 FPS then Micro shuttering has minimal effect. Crossfirring two HD 6950 can give you more than 40 FPS in all the games with the highest setting. So the effect of Micro-shuttering is minimal here.

[h1_b2_k3]

I am looking to buy a graphics card . My budget is 3000-4000 rs. I am mainly interested in gaming . Please suggest a good graphics card for me . I am currently using asus nvidia 8400 gs.

[RCuber]

Guys this is a n00b question... Whats the difference between Nvidia 3D Vision and AMD's HD3D technology

[Cilus]

Nvidia 3Dvision is the 3D technology adoptation by Nvidia and Nvdia is the sole developer and distributer of the required hardware and software. With Nvidia 3DVision enabled Gfx card and certified 3D Goggles, one can enjoy 3D entertainment (gaming & Movie) in any 120 Hz based 3D Monitor. Currently 99% of the 3D enabled monitors are basically Nvidia 3DVision enabled display.

AMD HD3D is the 3D technology developed by AMD/ATI but the developement is tot totally from AMD side. Here the hardware implementation of 3D tech has been performed by Nvidia but the 3D has been enabled by the Drivers developed by some 3rd party vendors, AMD's partner companies. Now most of the today's 3D monitors are not supported by HD3D, only some specific monitors from some specific brands like ViewSonic and Acer support HD3D.
But the good thing is any commercial 3D Televison support HD3D technology.

[clear_lot]

i got a msi gtx580 TFII in RMA replacement for stock gtx 580.

does anyone know if this version has
1. better and more VRM's than the reference gtx580 PCB design
2.the VRM's are cooled by the heatsink

[tkin]

i got a msi gtx580 TFII in RMA replacement for stock gtx 580.

does anyone know if this version has
1. better and more VRM's than the reference gtx580 PCB design
2.the VRM's are cooled by the heatsink

None, TFII is the same PCB with the new cooler slapped on, vrm heatsinks may be there(have to google it), but the PCB design is same.

[rajnusker]

Hi,
I am looking for a new graphics Card
I had bought a 8800GT 3 years back and I loved the Card. Unfortunately the card has stopped working now hence the replacement.
I will eventually upgrade my whole PC and am currently looking for a gphcs Card to put into that system. My budget for the card is 15-20k.
After searching I have found out 6950 is a good card in that range.
Should I go for 6950 or the 6970. Is it worth the xtra cash.
Or should i pick up GTX 570.

You can pick 6950 2GB version which is unlockable to a 6970, or a MSI R6970 2GB version at about 19k. Both of them are great cards. Stay away from nvidia's gtx 500 series if you are the type of user who leaves their PC on 24x7. After a week or so the card will start artifacting and requires a complete system cold reboot to work properly again. eVGA's support forum has several users complaining about this. That is the reason I choose AMD even though they have crappy drivers, becoz I leave my PC on 28 days in a month. I don't even remember when I pressed the Shut-down button. lol

Hi,

I have COOler Master eXtreme 600W PSU.
It wouldnt matter because eventually I am going to upgrade my whole system. As my graphics has stoipped working i need 1 immediately. But within the next 2 months I am gonna buy a whole new System, hence I dont care if it wouldnt work to the fullest in the current PSU.
And also to add to my question, how much improvement would be buy another MSI 6950 and put it in Crossfire. By doing this I would eventually shed 30k on gphcs card, so is it better to do this or rather buy a gphcs card of 30k.

Thanks.

The extreme power plus series are well known for their bullshit quality. Buy a decent 80+ certified unit from Corsair, Antec, etc. and then think about a graphics card. Crossfire means more heat generated so make sure you get a properly ventilated case before thinking about crossfire. the HD 6950 CF should be a faster than a reference 580. Anyways if you choose the 6950 you should go for MSI's TFII version.

Guys this is a n00b question... Whats the difference between Nvidia 3D Vision and AMD's HD3D technology

Just that nVIDIA's 3D Vision is the real deal, better support on games, etc.

[MegaMind]

Stay away from nvidia's gtx 500 series if you are the type of user who leaves their PC on 24x7. After a week or so the card will start artifacting and requires a complete system cold reboot to work properly again. eVGA's support forum has several users complaining about this.

Do not post bogus info.

Do post the source were u read that...

[Tenida]

You can pick 6950 2GB version which is unlockable to a 6970, or a MSI R6970 2GB version at about 19k. Both of them are great cards. Stay away from nvidia's gtx 500 series if you are the type of user who leaves their PC on 24x7. After a week or so the card will start artifacting and requires a complete system cold reboot to work properly again. eVGA's support forum has several users complaining about this. That is the reason I choose AMD even though they have crappy drivers, becoz I leave my PC on 28 days in a month. I don't even remember when I pressed the Shut-down button. lol





The extreme power plus series are well known for their bullshit quality. Buy a decent 80+ certified unit from Corsair, Antec, etc. and then think about a graphics card. Crossfire means more heat generated so make sure you get a properly ventilated case before thinking about crossfire. the HD 6950 CF should be a faster than a reference 580. Anyways if you choose the 6950 you should go for MSI's TFII version.




Just that nVIDIA's 3D Vision is the real deal, better support on games, etc.

Hey stop posting nonsense...thing

[rajnusker]

^^ eVGA's mega thread about this issue:

Artifacts with my GTX 580 (all three of them...)

MORE:

EVGA GTX 560 Ti artifacts

GTX 570 Artifact questions

Here's an official spreadsheet:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...CM67yoIK#gid=0

Some Newegg reviews:

Newegg.com - MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

There are more if you search through the Internet.

[Skud]

This is news. Although I haven't use my 6950 24x7, my previous 4850 was used 24x7, never faced any problem. Practically though, in our country, except may be metro cities, rarely you can run your system 24x7 over weeks due to power situation.


Regarding 3D, this article may help:-

Nvidia 3D Vision Vs. AMD HD3D: 18 Games, Evaluated : The State Of 3D Gaming

[rajnusker]

@Skud UPS is there for power backup.

[Skud]

@Skud UPS is there for power backup.

For how long? My UPS gives some 20-30 minutes backup while gaming, but load-shedding span far longer.