Graphics Cards related queries here.

[clear_lot]

In resolutions above 1440x900

i think you meant below 1440x900
i am getting a 1080p monitor, so no bottlenecking.

[thetechfreak]

bottleneckin reffered your processor slowing down your gpu nothing else.

He meant its time to get faster, better proccesor.

Nothing to do wid monitor

[asingh]

Actually once you move to 1080pi or greater most CPU bottleneck disappears. The GPU is churning it all out.

[tkin]

Actually once you move to 1080pi or greater most CPU bottleneck disappears. The GPU is churning it all out.

Not for recent console ports, GTA4 was very cpu bound, and Crysis 2 is here:


See that the E8400 is slower than quad cores by 25%, and thats at 1080P, thats also because newer game engines can use quad cores, battlefield 3 will also use quad cores effectively, and BFBC2 also does that, do you remember Red Faction Armageddon? That game had some very heavy physics calculations(Havok) running on CPU. Usually lower resolutions is generally CPU bound but for a card as fast as GTX580 E7300 won't do good at 1080P, specially in multicore games.

[damngoodman999]

^^ am happy to use my AMD phenom 2 940 @ 3.5Ghz ! i feared when i install my GTX 560ti

[asingh]

Tkin:
If you take it relative to another strain of CPUs, of course you will see a stark difference. I am talking about the users CPU vs. his GPU, and it being held back. Those are decent playable frames.

[clear_lot]

Not for recent console ports, GTA4 was very cpu bound

just for the info, toms did an article some time back on bottlenecking. gta4 was both cpu and gpu bound. either OC or more cores or better gpu resulted in more fps.

actually they praised the game engine for its ability to benefit from anything extra you threw at it!

also, they concluded the average no of cores utilised across 20 or so games was 2.75.
their recommendation: if you have a single core, go for a quad core.
if you already have a dual core @ 3.33ghz, upgrade your gpu.

[thetechfreak]

if you already have a dual core @ 3.33ghz, upgrade your gpu.

THis is gonna change very soon after Windows 8 comes out(probably)

just for the info, toms did an article some time back on bottlenecking. gta4 was both cpu and gpu bound. either OC or more cores or better gpu resulted in more fps.

Spot On. After I OC'ed my Celeron I got around 4 fps more in GTA IV. I havent heard of many people who got GTA IV running in a Celeron but I am one of them? Secret?
9500gt

Before I had that card GTA IV was running at 30 frames per minute. But when I got that card it runs at 20-25 fps. HUGE improvement.

[Zishi]

plz tell me GTX 560 ti price in New Delhi... and is it better then HD 6870....

[clear_lot]

^msi gtx560ti twin frozr II @ smcinternational.in.
priced at 14.8k.
yes, its definitely better than 6870. if you OC, you can reach gtx 570 levels.



@thetechfreak

THis is gonna change very soon after Windows 8 comes out(probably)

how? and "soon" is i think somewhere in q2 2013

[thetechfreak]

plz tell me GTX 560 ti price in New Delhi...

It's going to be Rs. 14.5k max

[asingh]

just for the info, toms did an article some time back on bottlenecking. gta4 was both cpu and gpu bound. either OC or more cores or better gpu resulted in more fps.

actually they praised the game engine for its ability to benefit from anything extra you threw at it!

also, they concluded the average no of cores utilised across 20 or so games was 2.75.
their recommendation: if you have a single core, go for a quad core.
if you already have a dual core @ 3.33ghz, upgrade your gpu.

Could you link to the article. Would be really interesting to read.

[vickybat]

@ tkin

Hyperthreading in the core i3 530 and i5 661 does a great job in the test considering they are dual cores. They perform almost similar with their quad core counterparts in games.

Crysis 2 is really a bottleneck for lga 775 based dual cores.

[asingh]

Guys also do remember. GTA IV was extremelly GPU un-friendly.

[damngoodman999]

Its really amazing i got my hands on GTX 560ti Direct cu II , i tested out with CRYSIS 2

CPU : Amd phenom 2 940 @ 3.4Ghz
GPU : GTX 560ti @ 880/1050

Resolution : 1680 X 1050 @ Advanced setup

Using Fraps - Lower FPS - 98
Avg Fps - 143
Higher - 170

This is really incredible !

[clear_lot]

Could you link to the article. Would be really interesting to read.

part1 :
The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 1 : 20 Games To Help Uncover The Bottlenecks

part 2:
The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2 : 20 Games To Help Uncover Bottlenecks And Test Settings

@ damngoodman999

from where did you get the card?

[damngoodman999]

^^ From Coimbatore only !

[clear_lot]

do corsair PSU have warranty/service centres in delhi?

[thetechfreak]

do corsair PSU have warranty/service centres in delhi?

Ofcourse yes.

[funkysourav]

finally bought myself a sapphire HD6850
The card is arriving tomorrow morning

Guys which softwares should i install now?
Please add them to this list (no OCing)
1)ATI Catalyst WHQL driver (10.3/10.4 which one is more stable?)
2)Driver Sweeper
3)HWMonitor Pro
4)SpeedFan

Do i need to reinstall my OS to install the GPU?
I am using stock CM310 Cabinet , VX450 PSU
The 2xBlademaster 120 mm fans have not arrived yet (3 days more)
so basically i am stuck with just one stock exhaust fan till the Blades arrive,
will that create problems like overheating?

[tkin]

finally bought myself a sapphire HD6850
The card is arriving tomorrow morning

Guys which softwares should i install now?
Please add them to this list (no OCing)
1)ATI Catalyst WHQL driver (10.3/10.4 which one is more stable?)
2)Driver Sweeper
3)HWMonitor Pro
4)SpeedFan

Do i need to reinstall my OS to install the GPU?
I am using stock CM310 Cabinet , VX450 PSU
The 2xBlademaster 120 mm fans have not arrived yet (3 days more)
so basically i am stuck with just one stock exhaust fan till the Blades arrive,
will that create problems like overheating?

If you had nVidia drivers earlier do this:
1. Download and install this: Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper
2. Uninstall drivers from control panel.
3. Reboot in safe mode, run driver sweeper, clean nVidia(or intel) files, reboot again.
4. Install ATI catalyst 11.3(Latest WHQL) from their site.
5. Enjoy.

Keep an eye on GPU using this software: GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility
and this desktop gadget(independent of any other software): [GPU Tool] GPU Observer 3.7 Sidebar Gadget - 3D Tech News, Pixel Hacking, Data Visualization and 3D Programming - Geeks3D.com

PS: No need to reinstall os and don't worry about overheating(but do not run furmark or any other stressing apps), try not to oc in summer, if you do oc get the MSI afterburner and manually set fan speed to 80% first.

[asingh]

finally bought myself a sapphire HD6850
The card is arriving tomorrow morning

Guys which softwares should i install now?
Please add them to this list (no OCing)
1)ATI Catalyst WHQL driver (10.3/10.4 which one is more stable?)
2)Driver Sweeper
3)HWMonitor Pro
4)SpeedFan

Do i need to reinstall my OS to install the GPU?
I am using stock CM310 Cabinet , VX450 PSU
The 2xBlademaster 120 mm fans have not arrived yet (3 days more)
so basically i am stuck with just one stock exhaust fan till the Blades arrive,
will that create problems like overheating?

Were you using an nVidia GPU or before, or any IGP..? Or will you go for a fresh install..?

[clear_lot]

@ funkysourav

do a CLEAN driver uninstall with driver sweeper even if any previous card you owned was from the same company. there have been many instances of users getting BSOD when upgrading cards from the same company and not removing the drivers before adding the new card.

[Piyush]

was reading a very nice and detailed article on AA
it shows the different techniques of AA in a game

Anti-Aliasing Analysis, Part 1: Settings And Surprises : Defining Anti-Aliasing

[Zangetsu]

^^thanx baba....

[funkysourav]

If you had nVidia drivers earlier do this:
1. Download and install this: Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper
2. Uninstall drivers from control panel.
3. Reboot in safe mode, run driver sweeper, clean nVidia(or intel) files, reboot again.
4. Install ATI catalyst 11.3(Latest WHQL) from their site.
5. Enjoy.

Keep an eye on GPU using this software: GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility
and this desktop gadget(independent of any other software): [GPU Tool] GPU Observer 3.7 Sidebar Gadget - 3D Tech News, Pixel Hacking, Data Visualization and 3D Programming - Geeks3D.com

PS: No need to reinstall os and don't worry about overheating(but do not run furmark or any other stressing apps), try not to oc in summer, if you do oc get the MSI afterburner and manually set fan speed to 80% first.

Were you using an nVidia GPU or before, or any IGP..? Or will you go for a fresh install..?

I was using the HD4200 IGP and the bundled driver before
after setting the card up in the cabby i took the leap of faith and installed the bundled driver everything was fine, then i manually DLed the 11.3 Catalyst x64 driver from Guru3d and just installed it without removing the previous versions with Driversweeper

Though everything seems to be fine now,
i would love to hear your opinion,
1)should i go for a clean OS re-install?
2)should i just uninstall the drivers by revo and Driversweeper and re-install 11.3 CCC?
3)or should i just leave it as it is since i am not yet facing any problems?

Spoiler:

Note
Windows Hardware index says
Proccy 7.3
Ram 7.3
GPU 7.7
Hdd 6.1




during running this test my temps in both proccy and GPU shot up to 48c and 65c respectively and system power consumption shot to 190w
now both are idling at 38 and 45c and power at 74w

[Zangetsu]

now i know what is supersampling & multisampling

[RajeshNethaniah]

Hi, I'm looking for a nice card for my Asus A8N-VM CSM board. My budget is Rs.3k-5k. The card should decode/play 1080p/i matroska video(mkv) content smoothly & should be able to encode any kinda video file in less time. It should be a DirectX 11 compatible card. NVIDIA card is preferable.

[thetechfreak]

NVIDIA has no cards in that price range for DX 11. Inface it has no cards in 10k range even


Get a Sapphire Raedeon 5670 @ 4.5k

[RajeshNethaniah]

NVIDIA has no cards in that price range for DX 11. Inface it has no cards in 10k range even


Get a Sapphire Raedeon 5670 @ 4.5k

Please don't say "NO" bro. GeForce GT 400 Series cards are DirectX 11 cards, but I'm looking/searching for a perfect/compatible/best card for my A8N-VM CSM board. If any of the GT 400 Series card is compatible for my MOBO, then please lemme know. Thanks

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