Graphics Cards related queries here.

[clear_lot]

@ clear_lot - thanks for providing clear infos - you got a great card ( compared to the previous one ).

I really have to deal with those ( jerks ) Rashi guys regarding a gfx card in the next couple of days - will disclose my story later as I'm waiting for what's they are going to do.

you are getting great OC speed with that eco edition card - enjoy your gaming time.

yeah its a good card. my latest stable OC is 720/1850/1030.
in furmark, max temp reaches 81c.

in crysis warhead, i play at
settings--> everything enthusiast, 1152x864, no AA.
i get about 25-27 FPS, which looks very smooth. max temp is 67c.

is it better to enable some AA and lose FPS? personally, i enabled upto 8XQ AA and found no subjective difference from no AA.


I found out that in this game, i can shoot the birds that are flying (the little black dots in the sky)?

[sasuke]

I am facing one wired issue here. Now a days ,(MSI GTX 460 CYCLONE 1GB) my frame rates have started to drop in BBC2 , F1 2010 and Mafia II. When there is smoke, or water or some extra details in the game, the game actually runs slow such that i experience lag . I play all the above games at 1920 X 1080 with highest settings . Dont know why. Dont remember , but i think i played with some settings in the nvidia control panel, but later I restored them...Now I am getting really worried ..Now I will reinstall the drivers and upgrade to version 260.89 beta... lets hope there's no issue with the card .. This is really getting me worried...

open the nvidia control panel from taskbar, or right click on desktop and choose the option to set all settings to default.

if it doesnt help, then remove the software and drivers then reinstall the latest again and the choose the option of default settings.
it has to work coz it worked for me once.

[topgear]

yeah its a good card. my latest stable OC is 720/1850/1030.
in furmark, max temp reaches 81c.

in crysis warhead, i play at
settings--> everything enthusiast, 1152x864, no AA.
i get about 25-27 FPS, which looks very smooth. max temp is 67c.

is it better to enable some AA and lose FPS? personally, i enabled upto 8XQ AA and found no subjective difference from no AA.

I found out that in this game, i can shoot the birds that are flying (the little black dots in the sky)?

if you did not find any significant difference in visual quality then there's no point in enabling it.

WoW - that's new - never knew that before.

[jakeichan1986]

The sole reason is the Graphics card itself, Jaskanwar . Phenom 9950 is a very good processor and on per with Core 2 Quad 6600. P 9850 and 9950 are free of the TLB bug and also having 2 MB L3 Cache. You can check the review in Tom's Hardware.

If you wanna play WoW at full HD resolution with over 30 fps then minimum a Radeon HD 5650 is required. Get the 1 GB version. your current PSU will be well enough for it. If you want a little extra punch in all the games, then the choice is either HD 5750 or Nvidia GTS 450.
But if you can spend the money, then get GTX 460 768 MB @ 10.5k
Although your current PSU may support those cards, but a PSU upgrade will be advisable.
Also Phenom 9950 is a Black Edition processor and has good over clocking potential. Try to over-clock it to 2.8~2.9 GHz.

And regarding PSU, as Jas said, a 850 is a super overkill. Go for Corsair TX550
, more than enough for your configuration.

Hi Jas & Cilus,
thanks..
am planning to upgrade the rig by feb or march 2011..
to a i7 and better supported board..
thats the reason i chose the 850..

About the gfx cards..
is there a possibility my current PSU i.e. Zeb 500w Platinum srs with 22A @ 12v rail, support a current generation gfx card, the reason i chose ATI was because of its lower power consumption.

&Cilus, i am playing @ lower resolution right now, but, its kinda icky, i am not able to play well due to the small screen..

[maverick786us]

depends on which brand you want to get-

MSI GTX 460 1GB HAWK is the best one to buy around ~14k.

Zotac GTX 460 1GB should be 12.9k

Also you may get some POV GTX 460 1GB cards.

I am planning to buy a Galaxy GTX 460 (1GB Version). It is such a great card, if Overclocked, it can perform as good as HD5850. How much does it cost in Delhi?

Finally I baught MSI Cyclone GTX 460 1GB for 12,900/. Was it a good deal or I could have got it for even less?

[quad_core]

Finally I baught MSI Cyclone GTX 460 1GB for 12,900/. Was it a good deal or I could have got it for even less?

Dude its a kickass card!! and you got it at really nice price. I got the same card a few days ago... or max a month ago for 14 k ...Its really runs cool because of its " cyclone" cooler

[quad_core]

open the nvidia control panel from taskbar, or right click on desktop and choose the option to set all settings to default.

if it doesnt help, then remove the software and drivers then reinstall the latest again and the choose the option of default settings.
it has to work coz it worked for me once.

I reinstalled the driver... this time the 260.89 beta version.. I think the problem has sorted out... but as it is i think Mafia 2 puts up quite a load at 1920*1080 at full settings.. But BFBC2 's frame rates also suffer sometimes... dont know why.. does any one have the same issue? Or
Am I playing at high resoultion , that its stressing the card too much , but i think gtx460 can handle this much load, cant it??Am I expecting too much from GTX460 ??

[asingh]

^^
With all maxed out an 1080pi your card will stutter at times on BC2. What have you set DoF..?

[rajan1311]

I am facing one wired issue here. Now a days ,(MSI GTX 460 CYCLONE 1GB) my frame rates have started to drop in BBC2 , F1 2010 and Mafia II. When there is smoke, or water or some extra details in the game, the game actually runs slow such that i experience lag . I play all the above games at 1920 X 1080 with highest settings . Dont know why. Dont remember , but i think i played with some settings in the nvidia control panel, but later I restored them...Now I am getting really worried ..Now I will reinstall the drivers and upgrade to version 260.89 beta... lets hope there's no issue with the card .. This is really getting me worried...

tried reducing AA?

[topgear]

@ maverick786us - you got a nice deal and congrats for your new card - enjoy some great gaming time.

[Piyush]

Finally I baught MSI Cyclone GTX 460 1GB for 12,900/. Was it a good deal or I could have got it for even less?

u got a nice deal
enjoy some good games

[akashbothra]

Which is better, Sapphire HD 5670 512mb GDDR5 Artic Cooling or XFX HD 5670??

[vwad]

If I buy Intel i5-760 and a cheap P55 based mobo with a entry level graphics card , will the power of proccy used while encoding the videos ?

[Piyush]

Which is better, Sapphire HD 5670 512mb GDDR5 Artic Cooling or XFX HD 5670??

sapphire one...any day

[maverick786us]

Dude its a kickass card!! and you got it at really nice price. I got the same card a few days ago... or max a month ago for 14 k ...Its really runs cool because of its " cyclone" cooler

Within month there has been a substantial decline in the price of GTX460 and its price will decline further when ATI launches HD6xxx series card, those cards will give stiff competition to GTX460

[quad_core]

^^
With all maxed out an 1080pi your card will stutter at times on BC2. What have you set DoF..?

what does DoF mean?

tried reducing AA?

Well i reduced it in mafia 2.. and its running smooth now..I had maxxed out everything in mafia 2.. then slowly reduced AA nd disabled the PhysX also

Within month there has been a substantial decline in the price of GTX460 and its price will decline further when ATI launches HD6xxx series card, those cards will give stiff competition to GTX460

Yeah..true ...

[Vicky Mate]

All the members of this forums pls help me to gain more knowledge about graphics cards.


1.
Which RAM is better DDR2, DDR3, DDR5, GDDR3, GDDR5 ???
What is the difference between them ???


2.
If I put ATI 4870 1G in Acer 5742G will it this combo work ????
How will be the performance???


3.
Is it good idea to replace default gfx card n to put better one ???
As it may decrease the performance.....


4.
If the answer for 3rd question is yes, and my budget is Rs. 10,000/-, then which gfx card should I buy???

[Vicky Mate]

All the members of this forums pls help me to gain more knowledge about graphics cards.


1.
Which RAM is better DDR2, DDR3, DDR5, GDDR3, GDDR5 ???
What is the difference between them ???


2.
If I put ATI 4870 1G graphics card in Acer 5742G will it this combo work ????
How will be the performance???


3.
Is it a good idea to replace default gfx card and to put better one ???
As it may decrease the performance.....


4.
If the answer for 3rd question is yes, and my budget is Rs. 10,000/-, then which gfx card should I buy???

[happy17292]

Hello guys,

1. i want to buy GTX460 768MB can anyone plz mention price of different brands?

2. Also i want an SMPS too. here only hytech, iball,odyssey, enter etc. local SMPS are available. they barely give 16A on +12V. i found a dealer who sells zebronics products. i can get any zeb. SMPS from there.

should i buy this?
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this has twin +12V rail with 19A on each. what that means? 19A total or 38A ? [19+19A]

review says GTX460 768MB requires 24A on +12V rails

or shud i go for iball sprinter 450/500W ?
iBall ? Your eyeball view. Our technology new.

[not sure about +12V Amperage]

NO CM,TAGAN, Gigabyte, VIP etc. are available and i cant buy online.

3. i will buy when southern islands will launch. how much price fall is expected?

thx.

[topgear]

^^ Brands to look for is MSI or Zotac expect to pay 11.5-12k for MSi and 10.5-11k for zotac.

if no other PSU brand is available then get the zebby pro 500W psu though I doubt the rating of 19a+19a - it's simply over rated- they at max can give you 32A ( acc to the link you provided ).

it's very hard to comment on the price cut as ATI 6xxx has not launched yet but the price will fall for sure and my guess is it could be 1-2k at max.

BTW, where are you from and what's the price you your dealer is asking for that zeby pro 500W psu ?

All the members of this forums pls help me to gain more knowledge about graphics cards.
1.
Which RAM is better DDR2, DDR3, DDR5, GDDR3, GDDR5 ???
What is the difference between them ???

2.
If I put ATI 4870 1G graphics card in Acer 5742G will it this combo work ????
How will be the performance???

3.
Is it a good idea to replace default gfx card and to put better one ???
As it may decrease the performance.....

4.
If the answer for 3rd question is yes, and my budget is Rs. 10,000/-, then which gfx card should I buy???

GDDR5 is the best memory currently available for gfx card though you also have to consider memory bit width along with it.

to know the difference in detail search in wikipedia - it will give you a fair amount of idea.

you simply can not put a HD4870 into Acer 5742g as it's a laptop and the gfx card is meant to be installed on desktop pcs.

if you talking about laptop then you will not be able to do that very easily but if you are talking about gfx solution integrated with mobos of desktop pcs then you can easily buy a gfx card around 5k mark and it will easily outperform any IGP solution.

if you are going to put a gfx card inside a desktop pc ( provided mobo has one pci-e x16 slot ) then get MSI HD5770 HAWK or Sapphire HD5770 1GB gfx or else you can also consider Zotac GTX 460 768MB @ 10.9k.

[vwad]

If I buy Intel i5-760 and a cheap P55 based mobo with a entry level graphics card , will the power of proccy used while encoding the videos ?

Can anyone please answer me about this ?

[vwad]

^^ Brands to look for is MSI or Zotac expect to pay 11.5-12k for MSi and 10.5-11k for zotac.

if no other PSU brand is available then get the zebby pro 500W psu though I doubt the rating of 19a+19a - it's simply over rated- they at max can give you 32A ( acc to the link you provided ).

it's very hard to comment on the price cut as ATI 6xxx has not launched yet but the price will fall for sure and my guess is it could be 1-2k at max.

BTW, where are you from and what's the price you your dealer is asking for that zeby pro 500W psu ?




GDDR5 is the best memory currently available for gfx card though you also have to consider memory bit width along with it.

to know the difference in detail search in wikipedia - it will give you a fair amount of idea.

you simply can not put a HD4870 into Acer 5742g as it's a laptop and the gfx card is meant to be installed on desktop pcs.

if you talking about laptop then you will not be able to do that very easily but if you are talking about gfx solution integrated with mobos of desktop pcs then you can easily buy a gfx card around 5k mark and it will easily outperform any IGP solution.

if you are going to put a gfx card inside a desktop pc ( provided mobo has one pci-e x16 slot ) then get MSI HD5770 HAWK or Sapphire HD5770 1GB gfx or else you can also consider Zotac GTX 460 768MB @ 10.9k.

Thanks topgear !! Great Informative Post :adore:

[Cilus]

Can anyone please answer me about this ?

1st of all, if you are not using Video encoders without GPU support, CPU is the all you got for converting.
Obviously, the CPU will be utilized to convert/encode the video. Now the performance of the encoding will also depend upon the used software. If the software is heavily multithreaded and multicore aware (example Handbrake, TMPGENNC, MediaCoder), then it will utilize all the cores of your processor and the performance will be better.

[happy17292]

Hi, I have P4 pc.
How I update my graphics card for updating games.

-----------------------------------------
help please

dude find out your motherboard's graphics slot, if it is PCI-e or AGP.

i had P4 PC which Had AGP slot. i installed FX5500 and it was enough for games released before 2007.

[happy17292]

^^ Brands to look for is MSI or Zotac expect to pay 11.5-12k for MSi and 10.5-11k for zotac.

if no other PSU brand is available then get the zebby pro 500W psu though I doubt the rating of 19a+19a - it's simply over rated- they at max can give you 32A ( acc to the link you provided ).

it's very hard to comment on the price cut as ATI 6xxx has not launched yet but the price will fall for sure and my guess is it could be 1-2k at max.

BTW, where are you from and what's the price you your dealer is asking for that zeby pro 500W psu ?




GDDR5 is the best memory currently available for gfx card though you also have to consider memory bit width along with it.

to know the difference in detail search in wikipedia - it will give you a fair amount of idea.

you simply can not put a HD4870 into Acer 5742g as it's a laptop and the gfx card is meant to be installed on desktop pcs.

if you talking about laptop then you will not be able to do that very easily but if you are talking about gfx solution integrated with mobos of desktop pcs then you can easily buy a gfx card around 5k mark and it will easily outperform any IGP solution.

if you are going to put a gfx card inside a desktop pc ( provided mobo has one pci-e x16 slot ) then get MSI HD5770 HAWK or Sapphire HD5770 1GB gfx or else you can also consider Zotac GTX 460 768MB @ 10.9k.

Thx dude,

i have not asked the price for that PSU since i will buy in next 3 months. i will try my best to get a CM,TAGAN, corsair, gigabyte. 460W or more.

i am from gorakhpur in UP.
i have GT240 at this time with a local hytech SMPS which gives 19A on +12V rail. i had too trouble finding a PSU with 18+ A.

n00b Dealers. one dealer said that PSUs have only 2-3A. 18A's PSU needs a big transformer like the 'bijli wibhag wala transformer'

he was not listening that i want 18A or more on +12V rail.

32A is good but what it means by V1 = 19A and V2 = 19A?

is it safe for GTX460? i am n00b in these things.

[Vicky Mate]

GDDR5 is the best memory currently available for gfx card though you also have to consider memory bit width along with it.

to know the difference in detail search in wikipedia - it will give you a fair amount of idea.

you simply can not put a HD4870 into Acer 5742g as it's a laptop and the gfx card is meant to be installed on desktop pcs.

if you talking about laptop then you will not be able to do that very easily but if you are talking about gfx solution integrated with mobos of desktop pcs then you can easily buy a gfx card around 5k mark and it will easily outperform any IGP solution.

if you are going to put a gfx card inside a desktop pc ( provided mobo has one pci-e x16 slot ) then get MSI HD5770 HAWK or Sapphire HD5770 1GB gfx or else you can also consider Zotac GTX 460 768MB @ 10.9k.

Thanx for your reply. I went to Acer mall near my place. I live in Pune n went to Acer Mall on Karve road, Pune. Representative over their told me you can replace it @ any acer service center But it will after 1 year as it will void the warranty.
Thanx for our advice on msi and zotac.....respect

[asingh]

what does DoF mean?

Depth of Field.

[Reaper_vivek]

Which would be better GTX460 or HD 5850??
Or Which is the best alternative of GTX460 in ATI???

[Piyush]

Which would be better GTX460 or HD 5850??
Or Which is the best alternative of GTX460 in ATI???

GTX460 768 mb <->HD 5830
GTX460 1gb <->HD 5850

[topgear]

Thanks topgear !! Great Informative Post :adore:

you welcome.

Thx dude,

i have not asked the price for that PSU since i will buy in next 3 months. i will try my best to get a CM,TAGAN, corsair, gigabyte. 460W or more.

i am from gorakhpur in UP.
i have GT240 at this time with a local hytech SMPS which gives 19A on +12V rail. i had too trouble finding a PSU with 18+ A.

n00b Dealers. one dealer said that PSUs have only 2-3A. 18A's PSU needs a big transformer like the 'bijli wibhag wala transformer'

he was not listening that i want 18A or more on +12V rail.

32A is good but what it means by V1 = 19A and V2 = 19A?

is it safe for GTX460? i am n00b in these things.

V1=19A and V2=19A means that PSu use two separate rails to provide +12V and each +12V rail could carry 19A.

Now at the combined source of +12V the PSU can only provide 32A - so each +12V could carry 18A separately but can not provide more than 32A simultaneously.

32A is enough for GTX 460 though it would be better to get brands like Corsair, CM, seasonic etc.

Thanx for your reply. I went to Acer mall near my place. I live in Pune n went to Acer Mall on Karve road, Pune. Representative over their told me you can replace it @ any acer service center But it will after 1 year as it will void the warranty.
Thanx for our advice on msi and zotac.....respect

that representative is a dumb fool - don't listen to him.
If you buy that laptop you will have use the default gfx comes with always.