Graphics Cards related queries here.

[deathvirus_me]

ok 2 questions-
1)is the 7600gt out??
2) is an x1800xt better than a 7800gtx?

Yes .. it is ..

And no ... the X1800XT will lose to the 7800GTX by a small margin .....

[ashfame]

Which one is better?
nVidia Geforce FX 5200 PCI or ATI 9200 PCI.
I aim to play directx9 games @ 1280 * 1024 resolution.
It should give 60+fps.
What it has to do of refresh rate?
What its optimum level?
Sort of Very Urgent!!
Pl Suggest.
And Kindly let me know their prices, here in Delhi.

[teknoPhobia]

At the resolutions you want to play, the cards you hame mentioned will give sumthing like 1 or 2 fps... refresh rate has nothing to do wih FPS

[ritwickgupta]

hi techies... i want to buy a gfx card (pci-e) for my pc. i hav budget of 15000. wot bst can i get??? the choices are 6800gs,6800gt,7600gs,7600gt from nvidia n x800xl,x800xt,x1600,x1800 from ati. i wanted to know the price n wanted to know that wot is a all in wonder card... is it costlier n wot features does it has.

Recently I hav heard some new terms in graphics card. I m teling my experience abt it

a. SLI n CROSSFIRE
I hav hrd this term sli from nvidia in which we can put two graphics card on a motherboard. But sine in sli we hav to put two exactly same card so its useless. In crossfire we can put two cards of different model ( but only of ati as I hav heard …is that true???). so this makes some sense. So does a crossfire motherboard cost too much???? Which r the models n cost???

b. PPU
This is sumthing that I hav heard in latest edition of digit. It’s a physics processing unit. It controls the laws of physics in a gameplay. I wanted to know that is it sum kind of other card that is to b placed on mobo or is a feature in graphics card??? If it’s a different card that which slot it uses n wot is the cost of this card.??? I hav also heard that we can force this ppu to a simple graphics card only. So that makes a sence of buying a crossfire compatible mobo so that when I buy a new gpx card … I’ll force the ppu calculations to older graphics card. Moreover can ne 1 give me list of gpx cards that can do pu calculations.

[Raiden Bee]

Whats the cost of a new 6600GT in Mumbai?

[royal]

calling all Kolkata guys (digitized , john_the_ultimate ... others pls dont mind as I dont remember all ur names )

I would like to buy a PCI-E graphics card ... budget around 12000/-

My choice is 6800GS/7600GT

Which one should I go for ? Will they fit in my budget

I would like to go for XFX but they r pricey ... so Leadtek will also do :

please quote shop name and prices ... that would be a BIG help

BTW...are there any models from ATI that I can go for with this budget ?
how will they perform compared to NVIDIA ???

[abhijit_reddevil]

@royal: Are you sure it is PCI and not PCI-express, as all the cards that you have mentioned (6800GS/7600GT), are available here in PCI-express, although 6800GS AGP has been manufactured, but not sure if it is available in Kolkata or anywhere in India, as a matter of fact.

You can try for Leadtek 6800GS extreme edition or 7600GT. There is one MSI/Leadtek distributor behind Indian Airlines building. The details are:

Tirupati Enterprises:

11, Robert Street, 1st Floor,
Kolkata-700012.
Ph: 22251192/93

I am not sure whether you would get 7600GT for Rs.12000., though....

[ritwickgupta]

hi techies... i want to buy a gfx card (pci-e) for my pc. i hav budget of 15000. wot bst can i get??? the choices are 6800gs,6800gt,7600gs,7600gt from nvidia n x800xl,x800xt,x1600,x1800 from ati. i wanted to know the price n wanted to know that wot is a all in wonder card... is it costlier n wot features does it has.

Recently I hav heard some new terms in graphics card. I m teling my experience abt it

a. SLI n CROSSFIRE
I hav hrd this term sli from nvidia in which we can put two graphics card on a motherboard. But sine in sli we hav to put two exactly same card so its useless. In crossfire we can put two cards of different model ( but only of ati as I hav heard …is that true???). so this makes some sense. So does a crossfire motherboard cost too much???? Which r the models n cost???

b. PPU
This is sumthing that I hav heard in latest edition of digit. It’s a physics processing unit. It controls the laws of physics in a gameplay. I wanted to know that is it sum kind of other card that is to b placed on mobo or is a feature in graphics card??? If it’s a different card that which slot it uses n wot is the cost of this card.??? I hav also heard that we can force this ppu to a simple graphics card only. So that makes a sence of buying a crossfire compatible mobo so that when I buy a new gpx card … I’ll force the ppu calculations to older graphics card. Moreover can ne 1 give me list of gpx cards that can do pu calculations.


plz reply me guyz...@digitized

[royal]

digitized ...

sorry for the goofup ... it will be PCI-E (my mobo is 915 chipset)
I have corrected it ...

any info about ATI products within 12000/- ???

[ritwickgupta]

i hav heard abot this ppu in gpx games????? wot do i hav to do to make my comp future proof from this ppu so that i can play games which are made keeping in mind this physx thing. help me guyz i m buying a new comp

@digitized

[MysticHalo]

AFAIK, physics depends more on the game-code for physics than ur GPU.
anyways, if i were u, i wud try to get X1900 XTX (the best card out there).But thats nowhere in 15k. For the money limit, either 7600 gt or x850XT would be the best. But buy the of a good manufacturer, like powercolor for ATi and XFX for NVIDIA

[drvarunmehta]

Don't get the PPU anytime soon. Very few games, if any make use of it and both nVidia and ATi are planning to implement physics calculations on the graphics card itself.

[crikanthr]

hi, NEED FOR HELP
i want to buy a new pci-e graphics card in the range of 12-15k(max) . could any one suggest the best card at this price?
i have read lots of reviews on the web and im stuck b/w the geforce 6800gs and the newly released 7600 gt..
7600gt is 128-bit,6800gs is 256 bit memory interface...
is the 7600gt available in india .. at what price?

[MysticHalo]

Originally Posted by drvarunmehta

Don't get the PPU anytime soon. Very few games, if any make use of it and both nVidia and ATi are planning to implement physics calculations on the graphics card itself.

Thats gonna make the situation even worse, imagine online play, where ppl with different hardware play the same game...and each one moves differently coz of different physics :lol
I beilieve it wont be easy to achieve uniformity

[abhijit_reddevil]

Originally Posted by royal

digitized ...

sorry for the goofup ... it will be PCI-E (my mobo is 915 chipset)
I have corrected it ...

any info about ATI products within 12000/- ???

Your choices within 12k for ATI might be Sapphire X800GTO. Not sure about it's availability, though.

Also to all people who want a graphics card within 15k: Buy a XFX 7600GT. You will not be disappointed. I am saying this although I have a 6800GS with 256-bit memory interface, and 7600GT has 128-bit memory. But reviews on the net say that 7600GT is better (mostly because of higher clock speeds and geforce 7 series features).

[royal]

digitized

now that I know u have a 6800GS, how much did it cost u?
Did u buy it from Tirupati ???

and how does it perform while playing FEAR,DOOM III ...

I would have loved to own a 7600 but its beyond my budget

[abhijit_reddevil]

Originally Posted by royal

digitized

now that I know u have a 6800GS, how much did it cost u?
Did u buy it from Tirupati ???

and how does it perform while playing FEAR,DOOM III ...

I would have loved to own a 7600 but its beyond my budget

Royal: The XFX 6800GS XXX edition is not bad at all. Let me give you some examples. On stock speeds, I got over 11900 in 3dmark03 and 5500 in 3d mark05. Check my sig for my machine config now. Now the score has moved upto 12600 and 5800 (approx) respectively. Have not tested in 3d mark 06 though.

Also now, Doom3 posted ~ 85 fps with ultra (yes, ULTRA quality, enabling it in settings gives you a warning that the system needs at least 512MB in textures) quality 2X AA/2X AF and 72 fps with 4X AA/4X AF. This is the result of the default timedemo. In FEAR, with all settings turned to medium I also got around 80fps on average, maximum being 170fps. FEAR's default benchmarking tool gives option of seeing the minimum and maximum fps, as you might be knowing. Also I had 0% under 20fps. If you own FEAR, you will know what I mean. BTW, all benchmark tests were taken at 1024 X 768. I have also used the latest nforce4 ultra drivers from Asus and Nvidia forceware 84.21. Half life-2 posted 99fps in canals test with all settings turned up (I have used the custom benchmarking tool provided by guru3d.com). I did not have the opportunity also to test Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I have heard that it stresses the system like FEAR, maybe more. Maybe deathvirus_me may give some opinions regarding this.

But most websites have stated that 7600GT is better than 6800GS. So if you get it, you will get better results than me, otherwise you can get 6800GS. I got it from Savera Marketing Agency (distributors of Rashi Peripherals) last february for Rs.14100 plus VAT. Address is 1, Ganesh Chandra Avenue.

Let us know your final decision.

[ritwickgupta]

hi techies....
i wanted to know wot does gs n gt suffix mean . n also which one is better gt or gs???? thx in advance

[ritwickgupta]

@ digitized....
U r telling that 7600gt is a better card than 6800gs inspite of bieng 128 mb interface. i hope u must hav heard that havok fx with collabration with nvidia is going to put load of ppu on the gpu itself. in that case wont it b better to go for a gpu with 256 mb memory interface as it may b able to take the load easily as compared to that of a 128 mb card....

n 2nd thing i want to ask is when is direct x 10 goin to b released...presently is there ne card which is direct x compatible...if my card is not compatible with dx10 n i play a game which requires a dx10 game on my card then wot will happen to the game play???/
plz reply soon

[arnab_21111987]

Go for geforce 6600 non gt pcie 256 card, it rocks! try to get xfx brand. the agp card will cost around 7k, pcie is cheaper- 6.5k. for more info, visit www.deltapage.com and click on link to graphic cards. in bombay i would suggest lamington road for the best bargains.
cheers!

[abhijit_reddevil]

@ritwickgupta: I suggest you go through this article.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2717&p=1

7600GT is better than 6800GS. It was not available that time in february, otherwise I would have bought it.

As of now, there are no DX 10 cards around. You have to wait until the Geforce 8 series/x2xxx series cards come out.

[royal]

digitized

I called Tirupati yesterday ... they DO NOT have Leadtek cards

XFX 6800GS is beyond my reach

where can I get Leadtek cards in Kolkata ... can anybody tell me that ???

[deathvirus_me]

U should rather go for XFX cards in Kolkata .. as after sales services are atleast available. ...

@digitized : Do u really think the 7600GT performs that great ???? Have u ever seen a review that potrays the latest releases to be bad .... the funny part is that in the Anandtech review they've stated that the 7600GT manages 46.8 fps in BF2 while the 6800GS manages 39 fps at 1280*1024 , 4x aa .. simply put .. i've played BF2 at 1280*1024 , 4x aa ,,... my fps barely went below 65 ...!!!! Don't believe those reviews blindly .... upon close interaction with many gruru3d members .... i've found out that the normal 7600GT is quite performing below a 6800GS .. only the oc'ed one's do good .... like the XXX edition .... thats where the actual battle starts out .... u can literally put a 7600GT XXX edition head to head with a 6800GS XXX edition .. the crown literally changing hand quite often ... the 7600GT leading in all synthetic benchmarks .. while the 6800GS pretty much the same in almost all cases .. better in many ...

[john_the_ultimate]

I would say that other than the minimal performance difference, the 7600gt comsumes less power and runs cooler than 6800gs. Correct me if I am wrong.
It's a newer card so must support the SM3.0 and purevideo better than 6800gs. But as deathvirus_me said the real competition begins with the XXX edition.

One of my friends in Bangalore bought Leadtek 7600gt 256mb DDR3 for 14.5K. Don't know the price in Kolkata.

[siddharth_dare]

Originally Posted by vysakh

I thought of creating a new thread but found it

i want the reply today itself so please post today itself by 5pm latest
my dad is going to bombay and so we have decided to get a graphics card from lamington road but i dont know to buy which one. suggest one. here are my specifications

direct X 9.0 compatible
256 MB memory
best performance
budget---6k

please reply immediatley
if possible quote prices from lamington rd

go 4 the pcie 6600gt its good in performance

[siddharth_dare]

i m using the xfx 256mb 5200 ultra it gives gr8 performance

[siddharth_dare]

when if now(march 2006) its ok

[kaustav_geek]

Guys you really think that 6800GS is a better performer??

Swallow the fact that it doesn't support OpenGL 2.0!!

So upcoming OpenGL2.0 based games will give it a sound thrashing.Even I was planning to get my hands on a6800GS but the release of the 7600GT has made me reconsider.

Can any one post the specs of the 7600GT? Please!!

Gracias

[deathvirus_me]

Hmm ... if Rivatuner states correctly then even my 6600GT supported OGL2.0 instruction set ... and the 6800GS does it well ...

7600GT : 128 bit mem. interface , 525/1400 stock ....
7600GT XXX Edition : 128 bit mem. interface , 590/1600 ....

But truly .. if a game runs poorly on the 6800 series .. the 7600 wouldn't do much better either ...

And remember Chronicles of the Riddick ??? The very widely faced problem on OpenGL2.0 supporting cards ???

[technohunk]

Originally Posted by kaustav_geek

Guys you really think that 6800GS is a better performer??

Swallow the fact that it doesn't support OpenGL 2.0!!

So upcoming OpenGL2.0 based games will give it a sound thrashing.Even I was planning to get my hands on a6800GS but the release of the 7600GT has made me reconsider.

Can any one post the specs of the 7600GT? Please!!

Gracias

Visit this website of Brand called forsa.... I just got a 7600GS and it really rocks .... www.geniman.com.hk .....the distributors of this card in India is shree sagarmatha dist. pvt. ltd. as mentioned on the box of the card .....i bought if for Rs. 7800/- ... and they told me that 7600GT will be avalibale next week Rs. 10.5 k ...cool price man ....and 7600gs has a zalman cooler ....