what's important, gpu or cpu....???

[grv750]

First of all, don't just jump to a CPU cooler. 1st buy the Processor and use it with the Stock fan. Although louder, Phenom II has a far better Stock cooler when compared to Intel offerings. It is actually copper pipe based and keeps the CPU really cool. After using it for some times, if you feel that there are high noise level or heating issues then get an after market cooler.
The noise problem is actually mainly with a certain batch of Phenom II 955 processor's cooler. AFAIK, 965 is quite quieter than 966.

did you meant that 965 cooler is quieter than 955's......??

[sam]

Also i heard about something called oem products.....?
Aren't they without fans...??

OEM are sold only as processors but are extremely hard to find and "mayn't" carry warranty.

[grv750]

ok guys.......so 965 it is.
Please suggest mobos now.
I've heard something called 8pin cpu connector and that everyone should consider buying a mobo with that as it keeps the cpu cool.
Also i've read that gigabyte mobos by default provide higher voltages to the cpu.......and that's why so many heating problems with 965 BE......
Please clarify.

[ico]

Also i've read that gigabyte mobos by default provide higher voltages to the cpu.......and that's why so many heating problems with 965 BE......
Please clarify.

yeah. That is true. Simply reduce "Vcore" through BIOS. Easy stuff.

I did it for my i5-2500k as well.

[grv750]

what about the mobo guys......??
Pls suggest something with it's nehru place price.....
It would be good if i could crossfire on it later.
Then i would think about getting a 6850 and save some cast and get another 6850 after 5 or 6 months rather than getting a 6950 now......
Would it be good idea??
What do you guys think...??

[ico]

^ No one crossfires later. Either you crossfire on day #1 or within a month. Otherwise you don't.

By the time you'll think of Crossfiring, faster "single GPU" cards will be available for cheap.

And single GPU > MultiGPU. Multiple GPU drivers can be buggy. Not a smooth gaming experience.

[grv750]

^ No one crossfires later. Either you crossfire on day #1 or within a month. Otherwise you don't.

By the time you'll think of Crossfiring, faster "single GPU" cards will be available for cheap.

And single GPU > MultiGPU. Multiple GPU drivers can be buggy. Not a smooth gaming experience.

I think you are right ico.....will follow your advice and would get an hd 6950.
But what about the motherboard.....???
If not crossfire,pls suggest me one with usb 3.0......and also under rs5000

[topgear]

get Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3 (rev. 3.1) - price should be around ~4.8k

[grv750]

get Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3 (rev. 3.1) - price should be around ~4.8k

Ain't that an matx board.......??
AFAIK the sata ports would be blocked if i use an hd6950 on that board.
What about ga 880ga ud3h....??

[ico]

Buy this: Flipkart: ASUS M5A97 Motherboard: Motherboard

Otherwise spend more and buy this: Flipkart: Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 Motherboard: Motherboard

What about ga 880ga ud3h....??

Not available in Delhi. Hardly available anywhere else.

[sam]

Ain't that an matx board.......??
AFAIK the sata ports would be blocked if i use an hd6950 on that board

if you use sata cables with 90degree rotated points, this problem is solved. nowadays gigabyte boards come with these cables.

[grv750]

if you use sata cables with 90degree rotated points, this problem is solved. nowadays gigabyte boards come with these cables.

Can you pls confirm if would get those cables with my board......??

[aloodum]

The keyword here is balanced followed by bottle necking,In the last 5 years most games have been more gpu dependent than CPu ...bariing a few exceptions and anamolies (GTA 4 anyone ?)

I`d advise you to get a Sandy Bridge core i5 system..even the cheapest one. Reasone?
1. Its 32nm..runs way cooler, drinks less wattage juice and more thermally stable than any phenom quad.IIRC phenoms have a max T junction limit of 62 dec C compared to a whopping 105 deg C on the 2nd gen corei5`s

2. It simply whoops the ass of competing CPU`s.

Trust me, think of it as an future proff investment,As more games take advantage of multiple threads on multiple cores of the CPu the gap between a core i5 and a phenom will increase even more.

Having said that i`ll confuse a bit more

If you wait a lil bit more, do So.Why?

1. Win 8 should show the real potential of 2011`s biggets flop..he bulldozer cpus. If Win 8 can finally understand the Schedling of threads on the BullZi , trust me it will be one game changer.

2. 28 Nm Ivy Bridge is due to come out ...Cooler and faster by upto 20-25% over its sandy brige cousins...this looks like a fireball in the making.

If not anything, they will certaily drive down the prices of SB`s

[sam]

Can you pls confirm if would get those cables with my board......??

else get some sata cables locally. should cost 50 bucks for a pair. then again you only need to worry about these if the sata ports are blocked.

[sukesh1090]

@grv750,
buddy it comes with two SATA cables and both have L(bent) connectors at one end and if you want you can always buy connectors separately,it is not a big issue.keep in mind that "kuch pane kiliye kuch khona padtha hei" you can't get everything in the price range you want to spend.so either spend more or just spend five minutes more while assembling your system.those SATA are not very big problem.one thing i can say is you can overclock your 965 like a hell in this board.i reached 4GHz with my 955 without overvolting that is at 1.4v.and reached 4.1GHz at 1.425.if i go further i may able to hit 4.3GHz.
one problem i found with this board is its dual BIOS.it didn't work for me or i understood it wrongly about how it works.whenever i tried to lower my cas latencies of my vangeance by upping voltage to 1.65v.my system boots but doesn't shows the display i have to clear the CMOS to get it back working.sometimes even it works.except this everything else works amazing.anyhow you are not going to get this dual BIOS feature in any other vendor mobos,you don't take it much seriously.

[grv750]

checked nehru place today......couldn't find 6950 anywhere....

also couldn't find 965 be.........but 960be was available.
Can i buy that??

[ico]

^^ I think it must be Phenom II X4 960T.

X4 960T can unlock to a 6 core CPU.

[sam]

i have same board. don't know how i missed the part

one problem i found with this board is its dual BIOS.it didn't work for me or i understood it wrongly about how it works.whenever i tried to lower my cas latencies of my vangeance by upping voltage to 1.65v.my system boots but doesn't shows the display i have to clear the CMOS to get it back working.sometimes even it works.except this everything else works amazing.anyhow you are not going to get this dual BIOS feature in any other vendor mobos,you don't take it much seriously.

err, does dual bios works like this? AFAIK, second bios acts like a backup bios. if by flashing first bios chip gets damaged or burn off, mobo switches to second bios chip but you can't update second bios.

[topgear]

checked nehru place today......couldn't find 6950 anywhere....

also couldn't find 965 be.........but 960be was available.
Can i buy that??

you can get HD6950 from here
Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 - 1GB

[grv750]

^^it's not available there also.......they are saying that amd is gonna discontinue 6950.....

[Joker]

if u want to buy, then buy. otheriwse u just keep on waiting.

[Skud]

@grv750,
buddy it comes with two SATA cables and both have L(bent) connectors at one end and if you want you can always buy connectors separately,it is not a big issue.keep in mind that "kuch pane kiliye kuch khona padtha hei" you can't get everything in the price range you want to spend.so either spend more or just spend five minutes more while assembling your system.those SATA are not very big problem.one thing i can say is you can overclock your 965 like a hell in this board.i reached 4GHz with my 955 without overvolting that is at 1.4v.and reached 4.1GHz at 1.425.if i go further i may able to hit 4.3GHz.
one problem i found with this board is its dual BIOS.it didn't work for me or i understood it wrongly about how it works.whenever i tried to lower my cas latencies of my vangeance by upping voltage to 1.65v.my system boots but doesn't shows the display i have to clear the CMOS to get it back working.sometimes even it works.except this everything else works amazing.anyhow you are not going to get this dual BIOS feature in any other vendor mobos,you don't take it much seriously.

i have same board. don't know how i missed the part



err, does dual bios works like this? AFAIK, second bios acts like a backup bios. if by flashing first bios chip gets damaged or burn off, mobo switches to second bios chip but you can't update second bios.

Sukesh, dual BIOS works almost as stated by Sam. In addition, if your first BIOS gets corrupted due to flashing or something it copies the recovery BIOS to the first BIOS and reboot the system. Actually, this is the first step. Only if there's any physical damage to the first BIOS, the mobo switches to the 2nd BIOS. And other vendors do have this feature in their boards sparingly, although none advertise them or utilize them as much as Gigabyte does.

[whitestar_999]

@grv750,check here by calling.they are listed as sapphire official distributor in India:
Aditya Infotech Ltd. HOME Page

some online options:
HIS H695FN1G2M Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Graphic Card with Eyefinity

SAPPHIRE HD 6950 2GB GDDR5

[sukesh1090]

i have same board. don't know how i missed the part



err, does dual bios works like this? AFAIK, second bios acts like a backup bios. if by flashing first bios chip gets damaged or burn off, mobo switches to second bios chip but you can't update second bios.

^^if i am right bro then the second BIOS should work whenever the main BIOS fails it could be anything like addition of wrong values in BIOS,then the first BIOS fails to boot so the details in back up BIOS will be copied to main BIOS and booting process continues.

[grv750]

finally got my rig today.......
Msi 880gma e35 fx + amd phenom II x4 960t BE (rs 10550)
Corsair xms3 4gb ram with heatsink(rs 1200)
Sapphire hd6870 (rs 10950)
Corsair gs600 psu (rs 3950)
Hp dvd rw+ 24x (rs 950)
Wd 500gb sata 2year warranty (rs 4050)
Cooler master elite 311 (rs1750)
Benq g2222hdl 22inch led (rs 6900)
I ball tarang 2.1 (rs 1380)
KB + mouse logitech mk200 combo (rs 650).
Will get it assembled tomorrow.......

[ico]

Msi 880gma e35

hmm older revisions of that motherboard might give problems. Do update the BIOS as soon as you install Windows and drivers.

[topgear]

^^ and he better not oc / unlock the cpu and OP's mobo supports cpus upto 95W TDP only.

@ OP - congrats on your new purchase

[grv750]

^^this is very bad news especially when i went with amd due to their budget oc capabilities....
Can i get this mobo replaced.....??
I got it from computer empire nehru place.

[ico]

^^this is very bad news especially when i went with amd due to their budget oc capabilities....
Can i get this mobo replaced.....??
I got it from computer empire nehru place.

I can't answer whether it can be replaced or not.

But you should have cross checked beforing firing the gun on the motherboard.

[grv750]

i just called them and they said that they will replace it.
Please reply fast which mobo should i buy.......reply fast with 2-3 mobos list as i'm on my way to nehru place.

they dont have ga880gm usb3 as of yesterday.
I dont care about usb3 at this point as long as i'm able to oc both cpu and my gpu. Pls suggest 2-3 boards in rs5500 range.