XFX Geforce FX5200

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Hi....just wondering if the XFX Geforce FX5200 128MB is any good? There are mixed reviews on da net.....??[/url]

[medigit]

i got one .Its the best VFM(value for money) card. u will be able to play almost all new games with reasonable FPS at 800 * 600 or 640 * ---(?) forgot
If u are shprt on budget then definetiley go for thsi card

[akshayt]

If we regard VFM as a product that gives :
good performance
high performance / unit money
future proof etc

then fx 5200 is not a vfm card.don't buy it period.

in india
highest vfm card may be overall x800xl for abt 19-20k

6600gt for abt 9-10.3k is also not bad in pcie

[d]

Hey Thanx fer the replies.....wht muddles me is tht some of the benchmarks rank the mx440 higher than this fx 5200.......how?

Do PCI cards really work? I think the PCI bus bandwidth is around 135-150 MB per second, while even 4x AGP is 1.1 GB per second....is it jus a namesake thingie?

[akshayt]

pci is abt 133mbps
agp 1x is double
similiary go one
approx ask others is all this is right

if you wanna buy graphic card try to avoid all this
geforce ,geforce 2 ,geforce 3 (though geforce 3 ti 500 may support majority games atleast it is too old and no need to buy it now ,besides who will sell it),geforce 4 (though 4 ti is not that bad but still go for newer cards),geforce fx,radeon 8500 series or lower,radeon 7xxx series,radeon 8xxx series,radeon 9550 series,radeon 9200series,radeon 9000series,any radeon 'se' graphic card,

if you wanna buy :
geforce 6 series(depending upon requirement if you don't want to game 6200 is ok for running os,photoshop shd be fine etc)
try to avoid nvidia turbo cache(tc) and ati hypermemory
try to avoid ati if they don't give more performance than their equivalent performing nvidia cards as of now that is
try to avoid X300 series,X600 series,X700 series

XFX GeForce FX 5200 with 128 MB RAM is no good anymore, don't buy it, however due to it's size & price to performance ratio it is a definite buy for Office or Cyber cares, it's dam small in dimensions

another card which is good is the GeForce 6200 non ultra, without turbocache, it is available here in lucknow for Rs 5.3k, & gives performance better then 5200, small in dimension & supports PureVideo, dam good for budget PC

[pimpom]

It depends on your requirements and your budget, and the relevance of the reviews you read depends a lot on when they were written.

It's easy to say that product X is no good and you should go for product Y even though Y costs 2-3 times as much as X. But some of us are on a strictly limited budget, and for those who have to stay under 3k for a gfx card, an FX5200 is still good VFM. It's certainly low-end by current gaming standards, but you can play practically all games at acceptable frame rates if you're willing to play the more advanced games at low settings.

The GeForce 4 series use older GPUs and cannot utilise some of the newer Direct X features. But speedwise some of them are faster than the lower FX5xxx cards even though the FX series are DirectX 9 compatible. E;g., The GF4 Ti4xxx series are much faster than an FX5200, approx in the same class as an FX5700. But all FX series GPUs can use DirectX 9 features whereas Ti cards are compliant upto DX8, and GF4 MX are only DX7-compliant.

Do PCI cards really work? I think the PCI bus bandwidth is around 135-150 MB per second, while even 4x AGP is 1.1 GB per second....is it jus a namesake thingie?

Yes, PCI cards work, though they are usually not qute as good as their AGP counterparts using the same GPU. But the difference is not as much as one may expect because the actual data to be processed seldom (if ever) uses the full AGP bandwidth.

If you mean PCI-Express, then that's a wholly different thing. This is a newer standard that has a higher bandwidth than even AGP 8x. But even here, performance depends more on the GPU, VRAM and other design factors because only a fraction of the full bandwidth is utilised.

[medigit]

very well said pimpom .If u want to go for under Rs 3000 definately go for XFX Geforce 5200.I have one .if interested PM me

[mohit]

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hey dude i am using the PCI-E version of the XFX 5200 and it is called PCX 5300 ... this card is quite good as i was able to play HL2 at 1024*768 and Doom 3 at 800*600 ... both with decent effects .. Far cry also zipped past at 1024*768 .. this is a nice card if u are on a shoestring budget .. i am just saving for the XFX 6600 GT though .. it rocks !!

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k thanx every1!!!

[akshayt]

fx 5200 is not lowend
it is a budget card (below low end ) and once the next gen cards are out it will be below the budget card level and you can thus say that just don't buy even if you want casual future decent gaming.

if you wanna do office work why not go for onboard solutions

also,give me benchmarks
can fx 5200 play doom3 even at 640*480 lowest?

also,to play hl2 at 1024*768 med won't you requireradeon 9600pro?

[medigit]

FX 5200 can play DOOM 3 At 640*480 at playable fps.i played it with a bit of niggle here and there but overall it was playabe.

[pimpom]

@akshayt, no one here is claiming that an FX5200 is a super gaming card. We're just saying that it's quite usable considering the price.

I'm not a gaming freak but I've installed FX5200 cards for a lot of people who cannot afford more expensive ones, and they regularly play Doom 3, NFSU2, AoE, COD, etc.

I don't have an FX5200 in the house ATM and cannot run a benchmark right now. You can take a look at www.tomshardware.com where they have these benchmarks for an FX5200 -

Doom 3 at 1024x768, 32-bit colour, 8x AF high quality - 11.9 fps.

MS Flight Sim 2004 at 1024x768, 32-bit, No AA/AF - 16.4 fps

11.9 fps and 16.4 fps are very low, of course, but try to imagine how playable they would be at lower settings.

[sagsall4u]

I think its better saving up for a 6600 GT as mohit is doing now ... better wait than repent

[thegame_rulez]

by the time he waits and gets the geforce 6600gt it wud come to the level where geforce 5200 is now..
thats what happens always..

[akshayt]

6600gt to fx 5200 level will take a really long time unless he plans to wait abt 1.5-2.5yrs.

also have you played the entire game doom3 with fx 5200

also,how many ppl want to play below 800*600

also,11fps is jsut too low

[rollcage]

I THINK XFX5200 IS GOOD FOR A CASUAL GAMER!

I PLAY NFS U, AND OTHER GAMES... WORKS GR8

DONT FIND ANY PROB VID THAT

800*600 is Good,... even at High Settings for graphics!!

[medigit]

i hace played the entire doom 3 with 800*600 .but when there is slow graphics i chahged the resolutip to 640*480 and it worked alright.

[akshayt]

doom3 , which settings
please give your system config and the games you play at what settings and how well

[pimpom]

Originally Posted by akshayt

also have you played the entire game doom3 with fx 5200

Not I (I said I'm not a gamer), but I know lot of people who have.

also,how many ppl want to play below 800*600

It's a case of having to, not wanting to. Thousands, probably millions, of people play modern games at 640x480 and enjoy it tremendously.

also,11fps is jsut too low

I already said that it's low - at those settings. That's why they play it at low settings.

[rollcage]

It's a case of having to, not wanting to. Thousands, probably millions, of people play modern games at 640x480 and enjoy it tremendously.

well said!!

Not every body want 6600GT

[deathvirus_me]

The best budget card in India at present is a FX5700LE 128MB .. it ran doom3 at 800x600,High Quality,all setings on ....

Oh btw .. the FX5200 sucks .....

[pimpom]

Originally Posted by deathvirus_me

The best budget card in India at present is a FX5700LE 128MB .. it ran doom3 at 800x600,High Quality,all setings on ....

Oh btw .. the FX5200 sucks .....

Sighhh.... How many times do we have to repeat : No one says that an FX5200 is a great gaming card. We're just saying that it's fine for those who cannot afford a better one.

Comparing an FX5200 to a 5700LE, a Radeon 9600 or a 6600GT is like comparing a Maruti 800 to a Palio, a Ferrari or a Mercedez while completely ignoring the huge difference in price.

[teknoPhobia]

actually rt now, the 6200 128 mb card is the best vfm... plays all games at gr8 settings for around 5k...both pcix and agp

[deathvirus_me]

the 6200 that costs around 5k is the TC only available for pci16x .... another bs card ....not me the benchmarks say ....

@pimpom ..... sorry for being harsh but i think its not wise to waste money on a thing that was outdated before release ...well atleast a FX5700LE can RUN games ...

btw ... everyone forgets that a maruti 800 is one of the best cars ever made .... low mainatainance ....and dont compare cars to cards ... a "d" can make a lot of difference ....

[premrajeev]

WHEN PEOPLE WITH LOT OF MONEY AROUND, THESE THINGS HAPPENS. There are millions of gamers in India who are crying for an FX5200 card.U conduct a poll..and see how many of our users have these high end cards...dont forget people in the middle class..

AND..I OWN AN FX 5200 256MB CARD(XFX) PURCHASED AT ABOUT 5400RS.I HAVE PLAYED AND COMPLETED FAR CRY, PUNISHER,NFSUG1 & 2, HL2, DOOM 3 AND ALL THE TITLES AVAILABLE TO ME IN MUMBAI...I WAS AMAZED TOO THE GRAPHIC DETAIL THIS CARD CAN OFFER IN NFSUG2, BUT USED TO WONDER WHAT THE HIGH END CARDS WOULD BE SHOWING THEN !!. I WILL NEVER SAY THAT THIS CARD SUCKS..EVEN IF I WILL BUY A NEWER CARD ( I AM A GAME FREAK AND WILL RACE TO ANYONE -- I DARE !!) BUT WITH FUNDS OR BUDJET LIMITED TO NOT MORE THAN 6K, THIS IS A GOOD CARD. FOR PEOPLE WITH LOTS OF MONEY, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT.

Consider people using maruthi 800 and merc-sclass..both serves the same purpose..in a different way though..It's just money that makes the difference..and who dont want to drive a merc..

[mukherjee]

Originally Posted by premrajeev

Consider people using maruthi 800 and merc-sclass..both serves the same purpose..in a different way though..It's just money that makes the difference..and who dont want to drive a merc..

WELL SAID MAN 8) . A FEW PEOPLE OUT THERE GROW MONEYPLANTS AND FREAK OUT ON LATEST HARDWARE. BUT SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE REALITY. NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS AN 6800/6600 TO COMPLETE GAMES. WE CAN TAKE EVERY SINGLE DROP OF PERFORMANCE FROM A 5200 OR 6200. GOD SPEED .

[rachitboom2]

My friend has got P4 2.8 Ghz Pro. , 1GB of RAM but has an old ASUS 5200 FX 128 MB, and still he plays Doom 3 at 800 * 600 Res. with everything turned off.

[pimpom]

Originally Posted by deathvirus_me

i think its not wise to waste money on a thing that was outdated before release ...well atleast a FX5700LE can RUN games ...

btw ... everyone forgets that a maruti 800 is one of the best cars ever made .... low mainatainance ....

Waste ?? That depends on your definition of "waste". A dollar multi-millionaire will probably call buying a Maruti 800 a 'waste'. But if you cannot afford a 5-lakh car and a Maruti 800 costing 2 lakhs serves your purpose, should someone else keep insulting it and call it a waste ?

My 21-year old book of cars (1984 edition) listed the original Maruti 800 as a Suzuki Alto (not today's Alto) and described it as "a very basic baby car, lacking the refinements of a real mini-car". I still keep one of the first Maruti-Suzuki cars (made in Japan stamped everywhere) and it's much better than today's Maruti 800s.

The Maruti 800 produced today is much shoddier but you say that it's one of the best cars ever made - a car that was considered beneath a mini-car 21 years ago, even in its original Japanese-made form. It all depends on how you look at it, isn't it ?

and dont compare cars to cards ... a "d" can make a lot of difference ....

An LE, SE, GT, XT, Ti, VE, MX, Pro or Ultra can make a lot of difference in a graphics card. So why shouldn't we compare them ?

[premrajeev]

we are slipping away from cards to cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!