help on building a gaming PC.......

[ksrao_74]

i know that this may be the n th thread on building a gaming pc but i cudnt refrain from creating this thread as i want to know the thot of ya all on my config as i thot with my minimal knowledge on hardware

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 - 11500/–
Motherboard: Intel X38 series chipset -12000/-(or NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI donno which is better)
Gfx Card: MSI or XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTs -18000/-
Mouse: G1 Gaming Desktop- 4000/-
Speakers: Creative Inspire T6060 5.1 -5000/-
Cabinet: - 3000/-
Monitor: Some 22" tft Monitor -15000/-
HDD: 500GB HDD-4500/-

do i need an additional soundcard like Creative X-Fi Xtreame Gamer costing around Rs.6000-7000.....to get a decent sound with good ass speakers?????

and

im not really sure abt the graphics card......which is the best one ot there....bottom line is im ready to put 20000rs provided i dont need to upgrade this config(at least the card) inr the cuming 4-5 years......as far as my knowledge and judgement goes(as i donno **** abt overclocking frequency etc) i found out 8800GTS to be the best cuz 512MB,650MHz.......plz do suggest and can u guys suggest a good vendor for these cards....MSI or Palit or XFX or zotac or anyother......
guys plz help cuz i want the best config possible while spending Rs.70-75K

[Plasma_Snake]

Believe it or not but the way game's industry is going, no matter what Powerhouse system you assemble, it is going to complete its shell life in at max. 2 years so forget about 4-5 year run.
In case of Gaming the Core2Duo processor is better than Quad Core so Processor:E8400 for Rs.8,650. For motherboard, make up your mind whether you want a SLi rig or a Crossfire one or none. So as you have only mentioned a Single GPU so for that case the Motherboard:Abit IX38 Quad GT for Rs.12,000. Graphics is one category where you can splurge ur dough and get anything on the spectrum. 8800GT is a good card but Old now so go for Zotac GTX 260 if you can, its price is 25,000. if you wait, price is only gonna drop.You haven't mentioned RAM, get a OCZ-OCZ2N1066SR2GK (2x1GB) Kit 1066MHz DDR2 costing 4,400. Otherwise you can always opt for a 2x1GB DDR2 800MHz Kit by Kingston or Transcend which will cost you onle 2,000.
For Display get the Dell's 22inch LCD. It supports res upto 1600x1050 and costs nearly 14,000. AFA ur Audio solution is concerned, On-board Ausio solution will suffice unless you are a big Audiophile. Keep your option for the speakers open. I've T6060, got 'em for 4K back in 2007 but believe you will wanna skip 'em.

[dOm1naTOr]

Q 6600 : 9.8k[shud oc] or E8400 : 8.5k
MSI X48C PLATINUM : 14.8k or Quad GT: 11.5k [former wud be better]
Corsair 2*2GB C5 800: 5.5k
MSI HD 4850 *2 Crossfire : 20k [10k*2] : beats GTX 280 most of the time or thrice as fast as 8800GTS 512
Coolermaster 650: 5k
Dell 22" : 14k
logitech X540: 5k
Logitech MX 518: 1.2k
Quick Steel pad : 0.5k
Zebronics Antibiotic or CM Elite 330 Black: 2k
Seagate 500Gb 32Mb : 4.1k
Micorsoft 1000 curve : 0.8k
Creative X-Fi X-treme Audio : 4k

a powerhorse energy drink and some packets of LAYS : 100 bucks

[ksrao_74]

Originally Posted by Plasma_Snake

Believe it or not but the way game's industry is going, no matter what Powerhouse system you assemble, it is going to complete its shell life in at max. 2 years so forget about 4-5 year run.
In case of Gaming the Core2Duo processor is better than Quad Core so Processor:E8400 for Rs.8,650. For motherboard, make up your mind whether you want a SLi rig or a Crossfire one or none. So as you have only mentioned a Single GPU so for that case the Motherboard:Abit IX38 Quad GT for Rs.12,000. Graphics is one category where you can splurge ur dough and get anything on the spectrum. 8800GT is a good card but Old now so go for Zotac GTX 260 if you can, its price is 25,000. if you wait, price is only gonna drop.You haven't mentioned RAM, get a OCZ-OCZ2N1066SR2GK (2x1GB) Kit 1066MHz DDR2 costing 4,400. Otherwise you can always opt for a 2x1GB DDR2 800MHz Kit by Kingston or Transcend which will cost you onle 2,000.
For Display get the Dell's 22inch LCD. It supports res upto 1600x1050 and costs nearly 14,000. AFA ur Audio solution is concerned, On-board Ausio solution will suffice unless you are a big Audiophile. Keep your option for the speakers open. I've T6060, got 'em for 4K back in 2007 but believe you will wanna skip 'em.

thx bhai.that was helpful esp abt the audio card. no im not a big audiobuf so ill better put that amount in gfx card........u have suggested to go for GTX 260 but is it avaialable in India rite now?btw i reside in hyderabad and do u think ill get 260 in hyd below 25000/-???

Originally Posted by dOm1naTOr

Q 6600 : 9.8k[shud oc] or E8400 : 8.5k
MSI X48C PLATINUM : 14.8k or Quad GT: 11.5k [former wud be better]
Corsair 2*2GB C5 800: 5.5k
MSI HD 4850 *2 Crossfire : 20k [10k*2] : beats GTX 280 most of the time or thrice as fast as 8800GTS 512
Coolermaster 650: 5k
Dell 22" : 14k
logitech X540: 5k
Logitech MX 518: 1.2k
Quick Steel pad : 0.5k
Zebronics Antibiotic or CM Elite 330 Black: 2k
Seagate 500Gb 32Mb : 4.1k
Micorsoft 1000 curve : 0.8k
Creative X-Fi X-treme Audio : 4k

a powerhorse energy drink and some packets of LAYS : 100 bucks

ummmmm.....ur config shot up over Rs.80000 none the less ur config looks hot
Off late i ve been reading a lot abt the way 4850/4870 gonna **** over all the 8 series and 9 series nvidia cards but i ve also read 4850/4870 has some heating prob....is that true?? btw are the above mentioned 2 MB compatible for 4850 crossfire and can u shed sum lite on how to connect them(can u keep that simple as im a noob) crossfire.....

[desiibond]

@ksrao, go ahead with Dominator's configuration.

crossfired 4850 (18k)easily beats GTX 260. Also, Logitech X-540 is much better than T6060

[harryneopotter]

As far as i know .. the heating prob of HD 48XX series cards is nt a big issue and can be solved by driver update or by setting fan speed manually.
And connecting two cards in crossfire is not so hard...
1. Insert both cards in their slots on motherboard ( same way u insert a single card )
2. U'll get a crossfire bridge with ur cards ( a small clip like data cable ), connect the two cards using this bridge.
3. Boot up the system and install crossfire drivers...

I havent setup any dual card config myself till now .. but i believe the procedure i mentioned is not much farther from the actual procedure (if at all) ...

Hope it helps.

[ksrao_74]

thx guys.........after a lot of speculation and deliberation ive fianall zereod in to the foll config.........

Processor: E8400-Rs.8500/-
Mobo:MSI X48C PLATINUM-Rs.15000/-
Gfx Card: ATI RAdeon 4870( cant afford X2 rite now...will add another 4870 whenever necessary in future if that possible)-Rs18000(not sure abt the price)
Monitor: 22" LCD TFT Dell-14000/-
Speakers: Creative/Logitech/Altec Lansing 5.1-5000/-
RAM:Corsair 2*2GB C5 800:Rs.5500/-
Mouse and Keyboard: Rs.5000/-

Now that my total budget is Rs.70000 and the above config added exactly to Rs.7000.....can u guys suggest some PSU+Cooling solutions+Cabinet and anything else that i missed below Rs.10000/- as i can spare not more than Rs.10000

btw thx a tonn to dominator and snake ........u guys are great and ur inputs really helped.......thx guys

[MetalheadGautham]

wait for nehalem. its worth it, and X58 + DDR3 + Nehalem is going to kick ass of any current rig. Till september, thats it.

[dOm1naTOr]

but game performance is more GPU dependant than CPU. An oced E8400 is more than enuf to juice 4870..if not a Crossfire 4870.

btw 4870 512 is bout 15k now. Try to get a 1GB version as 512 MB is too less and seems to limit the efficient GPU's full potential. No idea bout the price of 1Gb one, but wont be a bomb for sure.

[ksrao_74]

Originally Posted by dOm1naTOr

but game performance is more GPU dependant than CPU. An oced E8400 is more than enuf to juice 4870..if not a Crossfire 4870.

btw 4870 512 is bout 15k now. Try to get a 1GB version as 512 MB is too less and seems to limit the efficient GPU's full potential. No idea bout the price of 1Gb one, but wont be a bomb for sure.

is the 1 GB card available in india? btw i have another doubt bro......which is better 1GB 4870 or two 4850 connected in crossfire??????

Originally Posted by ksrao_74

thx guys.........after a lot of speculation and deliberation ive fianall zereod in to the foll config.........

Processor: E8400-Rs.8500/-
Mobo:MSI X48C PLATINUM-Rs.15000/-
Gfx Card: ATI RAdeon 4870( cant afford X2 rite now...will add another 4870 whenever necessary in future if that possible)-Rs18000(not sure abt the price)
Monitor: 22" LCD TFT Dell-14000/-
Speakers: Creative/Logitech/Altec Lansing 5.1-5000/-
RAM:Corsair 2*2GB C5 800:Rs.5500/-
Mouse and Keyboard: Rs.5000/-

Now that my total budget is Rs.70000 and the above config added exactly to Rs.7000.....can u guys suggest some PSU+Cooling solutions+Cabinet and anything else that i missed below Rs.10,000/- as i can spare not more than Rs.10000

btw thx a tonn to dominator and snake ........u guys are great and ur inputs really helped.......thx guys

what abt that part of my query bro????

[desiibond]

1Gb 4870 is better than HD4850 in crossfire.

This is a card that can even kick GTX280's a$$

after a year or two, if you feel that you need more, get another HD4870 and then have crossfire setup.

Also, try to get 24" Dell 248WFP because you have a perfect config for a FullHD setup. and FullHD starts at 1920x1080 which is the natvie resolution of 24" LCD's.

[Plasma_Snake]

So you want Cabinet+PSU+Cooling Solution in 10K. Here are few combos:

1. Antec 300 Gaming Cabinet + Cooler Master RP-600-PCAR(Extreme Power 600W) 4K+3K=7K.
2. iBall Gamer Cabinet+ the above mentioned Power Supply(Stick to it as it is going to suffice all your power needs,present and Future easily). Cabinet is for around 2K+3K for PSU. In addition to this you'll need to spend around 1500 bucks more for couple of 120mm fans for cooling purposes. It brings total to 6.5K.
3. OR you can go for the Cooler Master system. It includes CM 690 Black Cabinet and the aforementioned PSU(bought separately) 4600+3000=Rs.7,600

In case of Graphics card, your motherboard will support ATi cards only and does supports Crossfire so IMHO if you go for above PSU+Cabinet combo and get some cash sparing you can build yourself a 4850 Crossfire system. Palit 4850 costs Rs.11,500 and has 512MB DDR3 memory, 256Bit Bus Width, 73.6GB/s Bandwidth,800 Unified Shader Units,16 ROPs. While the Default GPU clock is 625 MHz, Palit has OCed it to 781MHz. Same goes for memory, default clock is 993MHz but OCed to 1150MHz by Palit.
ATi 4870 has 1GB of DDR5 memory but is expected to be for around 16-18K when it is launched. Safest bet is to go for the 4850 Crossfire as you will get 1Gb Memory plus the 2 Pixel Munching GPUs. If budget doesn't allows then even a single 4850 is enough as you can conclude from above mentioned data.

[desiibond]

^^^

HD4870 costs around 15k outside.

and btw, you don't have to buy a 12k card just for oc'ing purpose. All you need to do is unlock the fan speed which is locked to a max of 30% and do the overclocking.

So, either get MSI/Sapphire/gigabyte HD4850 or HD4870.

My pick would be http://www.gigabyte.in/Products/VGA/...GV-R487-512H-B

since it comes with dual DVI, VGA and HDMI ports.

[channabasanna]

I would suggest the ASUS Maximus Formula Motherboard, which comes in around 15k range, i had brought it for 14.5k in April. Also you get a Sufreme FX II sound card with the board. Here is the link of the board http://in.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=...89&modelmenu=1.

Also go for CoolerMaster CM690 Cabinet as it is spacious, and you can have lots of 120mm fans into the cabinet to keep your system cool.

Try to get a good Cooler for your processor.

I am planning to get a ThermalRight Ultra 90 Cooler with a good 90mm Fan to fix to the cooler.

[Plasma_Snake]

Just in guys, Sapphire's selling ATi HD4870 for 19,000 bucks. Get one if you can afford one.

[dOm1naTOr]

but most 4870's street price is even less than 15k, and less than 10k for 4850.
i think u shud search for 1GB version.

[desiibond]

^^ +1. itwares price is too high for 19k.

[toofan]

I too lookin for a HD4850. I hate Nvdia. I don't know why but I dooooooooooo.
can anyone tell the actual price of the good performing HD4850 card with brand at delhi(street wala).

[dOm1naTOr]

MSI 4850 is just over 9.5k

[ksrao_74]

ok ppl here i go for the final time...

Processor: Core 2 Duo E840 -Rs.8500/-
MOBo: Asus Maximus Formula -Rs.15000/-
Gfx Card: 512 MB ATI 4870-Rs.20000/-
Monitor: 22" Dell-Rs.15000/-
RAM: Corsair 2X2 GB C5800-Rs.5500/-
Speakers:Logitech X540-Rs.5000/-
Keyboard: MicroSoft 1000 Curve-Rs.800/-
Mouse: Logitech MX518-Rs.1200/-
Optical Drive: Sony DVD Dual Layer Burner-Rs.4000/-
Cabinet:Zebrinic Antibiotic or Antec Ninehundred 900-Rs.6500/-
PSU: CoolerMaster 650W-Rs.5000/-
Colling Fan: Cooler Master Hyper TX2-Rs.2000/-( Not sure if i really need this cuz the 900 cabinet by default has two 120mm fans i guess)

this rig is gonna cost me around Rs.85000 but im ready......

[Plasma_Snake]

Yeah, You Are ready for one serious piece of hardware setup and some really awesome Gaming Just keep few beers handy or RedBulls if you don't drink beer

[desiibond]

Dude. go for dell 248WFP for 21k.

Get ATI HD4870 from a good dealer for 16k (save 4k)
Get internal sony dvd burner for 1.3k (save 2.7k)

Put the 6k-7k amount saved into display and you will get 24" display which is FullHD.


Trust me, it's a mistake not to go for FullHD at 85k budget.

[ksrao_74]

Originally Posted by Plasma_Snake

Yeah, You Are ready for one serious piece of hardware setup and some really awesome Gaming Just keep few beers handy or RedBulls if you don't drink beer

lol......thx bro.....for all the patient help

Originally Posted by desiibond

Dude. go for dell 248WFP for 21k.

Get ATI HD4870 from a good dealer for 16k (save 4k)
Get internal sony dvd burner for 1.3k (save 2.7k)

Put the 6k-7k amount saved into display and you will get 24" display which is FullHD.


Trust me, it's a mistake not to go for FullHD at 85k budget.

ya i was just thinking abt that.........will def consider that suggestion..thx mate

[ksrao_74]

Originally Posted by ksrao_74

ok ppl here i go for the final time...

Processor: Core 2 Duo E840 -Rs.8500/-
MOBo: Asus Maximus Formula -Rs.15000/-
Gfx Card: 512 MB ATI 4870-Rs.20000/-
Monitor: 22" Dell-Rs.15000/-
RAM: Corsair 2X2 GB C5800-Rs.5500/-
Speakers:Logitech X540-Rs.5000/-
Keyboard: MicroSoft 1000 Curve-Rs.800/-
Mouse: Logitech MX518-Rs.1200/-
Optical Drive: Sony DVD Dual Layer Burner-Rs.4000/-
Cabinet:Zebrinic Antibiotic or Antec Ninehundred 900-Rs.6500/-
PSU: CoolerMaster 650W-Rs.5000/-
Colling Fan: Cooler Master Hyper TX2-Rs.2000/-( Not sure if i really need this cuz the 900 cabinet by default has two 120mm fans i guess)

this rig is gonna cost me around Rs.85000 but im ready......

went to CTC(comp peripherals complex in hyd) today and checked with 4-5 stores most of them said that ive to place an order for the above config

Processor- is 8500/-
Motherboard ive opted for x48 series in which the basic model(asus) is around 16500/-
4870- Rs.20000/-
Monitor ive settled for 22' dell- 17500/-
Ram- 5000/-
Speakers -ALansing 4000/-
Keyboard opted an ordinary Rs.800/- model
Mouse-Cudnt find Logitec MX518 in any store.
op drive-1200/-
Cabinet....the big problem.....none of them heard abt either Antec 900 or NZXT Zero...so finally decided on Coller Master 690( guys ur thots on this)
PSU Cors air 620 W SMPS-Rs.6000/-

[Plasma_Snake]

As I had suggested it earlier, Cooler Master 690 is a great cabinet, Certified for SLi. PSU is OK too but I think in case of GPU they are robbing you in plain daylight and please specify the MoBo too. I think refer to some site before finalizing to the Config with those dealers. You can get better price if you can manage to make a trip to Chennai and check out the IT Depot there. Refer to sites like TheITWares , PriceGuru
etc for clarity on prices of products.

[toofan]

Why to go for such a expensive motherboard. Find some less expensive one and then add that saved amount on the processor(Although processor sufficient).

Only a suggestion. Because i don't find costlier mobos a necessity.

If looking for Over clocking. I don't think that with that processor you will be needing over clocking. The present power of the processor is much more then needed by any application or game. So save money dear.

Same way you can save money in the Cabinet also.

The saved money can be used to buy original softwares, games etc.

Keep the cost of softwares also in mind. Because the original softwares can cost you a lot more then you expect.

[cyborg47]

dude..u can try at rashi pheripherals...its very near to ctc..opposite kamath hotel....go to that place and ask someone for the exact location....gud luck...

[ksrao_74]

Originally Posted by Plasma_Snake

As I had suggested it earlier, Cooler Master 690 is a great cabinet, Certified for SLi. PSU is OK too but I think in case of GPU they are robbing you in plain daylight and please specify the MoBo too. I think refer to some site before finalizing to the Config with those dealers. You can get better price if you can manage to make a trip to Chennai and check out the IT Depot there. Refer to sites like TheITWares , PriceGuru
etc for clarity on prices of products.

reg mobo one of them suggested 3 variants in X48 series
1. Asus P5e-Delux----Rs.16500
2.Asus P5E3 Premium
3.Asus Rampage Formula

and coming to 4870 almost all the 4 stores that ive checked are charging between Rs.19500-Rs.21000/-. and me coming down to chennai for this purpose aint feasible i guess..cuz the money ill be saving in chennai will be spent for my train fares ......

Originally Posted by toofan_nainital

Why to go for such a expensive motherboard. Find some less expensive one and then add that saved amount on the processor(Although processor sufficient).

Only a suggestion. Because i don't find costlier mobos a necessity.

If looking for Over clocking. I don't think that with that processor you will be needing over clocking. The present power of the processor is much more then needed by any application or game. So save money dear.

Same way you can save money in the Cabinet also.

The saved money can be used to buy original softwares, games etc.

Keep the cost of softwares also in mind. Because the original softwares can cost you a lot more then you expect.

yup......ive no intention to go far any other processor other than E8400....and ur suggestion reg the softwares...ill def try verrry hard to follow.thx dude

Originally Posted by cyborg47

dude..u can try at rashi pheripherals...its very near to ctc..opposite kamath hotel....go to that place and ask someone for the exact location....gud luck...

yuppu....ivvala pothaa gaa shop ki...btw nee comp entha varaku vachindi????

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