Devil May Cry 4 Discussion Thread

[Plasma_Snake]

Yes that's what we are here to do. I finished the game last night and it was awesome!
Not going to give spoilers but tell you just the following stuff:

1. Initially you play as Nero,the son of Vergil but after level 11 you get to get your hands dirty with Dante.
2. As mentioned above first 11 levels are with Nero, 12-18 with Dante and last 2 levels 19,20 again with Nero.
3. Biggest gripe that everybody is going to have is not being able to play with Dante long enough. Just 8 levels. Oh Come On! Damn you CAPCOM!
4. Nero has just a Revolver named Blue Rose and a sword named Red Queen and later get the infamous Katana Yamato but it only serves as Devil Trigger.
5. Dante has usual Ebony & Ivory, a Sawn Off named Coyote-A and a wicked suitcase named Pandora which can transform into multiple weapons.As far as swords go he has his usual Rebellion, gets Gilgamesh, pair of Gauntlets akin to Ifrit in DMC 1 and Beowulf in DMC 3 . Third one is Lucifer but it ain't that good.
6. All the girls join the party this time. You've got Trish, The Lady, Nero's girl kyrie and a new girl Gloria.
7. Boss fights are good and satisfying. Except for the fights in later levels like 18,19,20 rest of the fights are easy.

What my personal disliking and only disliking with this game was not being able to get more of Dante. I'm sure I'm not wrong when I say this, If Nero fights like a rabid Dog then Dante is like a Hornet's nest on fire. While Nero has just one sword and a gun and a crippled arm just to grab hold to demons and stuff, our beloved boy Dante has 3 different handguns, 3 different Devil Arms and 4 different fighting style,Trickster,Gunslinger,RoyalGuard and Swordmaster, all changeable on the fly. I mean one moment I'm stuffing a demon with a Million Stab move and next moment with a flick of a button I'm pounding his nethers to mince meat. Its all just so satisfying. Lets just hope Devil may Cry 5 has more of Dante.
Overall the game is awesome and my advice to you guys is this, Don't even think about playing such a button masher on a Keyboard+Mouse combo. If you can then sure as hell invest in XBOX 360 controller for PC as the game natively supports it and believe me you want regret it. I'm outta here

[Ethan_Hunt]

Freaking finally a DMC 4 thread.I am on level 13 right now with Dante.It feels very difficult suddenly letting loose from Nero & fighting as Dante.I just love this game.Stylish gameplay, awesome graphics, boss fights are massive & uber-cool cut scenes.Being new to this franchise, I didn't have to do much homework on it.I just set the combo system to automatic & execution was a walk in the park.

I like playing as Nero more than Dante for now.I sorely miss the Devil Bringer.It is awfully handy at times.Especially having difficultly slicing through Bianco Angelos & Alto Angelo.Earlier using Nero I could directly perform extreme buster manoeuvres but with Dante it seems very difficult.May I need more practice.Hence simultaneously playing DMC 3 on my PS2.Dante seems to have fast movements as opposed to Nero & also his sword slashes seem more violent.

This is an excellent port from Capcom.Beautifully optimised & the control system is piece of cake.Definitely a must buy for all DMC & non-DMC fans.

[Zangetsu]

Hey man this game's sys requirement is huge... SM 3.0
Mid-Range cant play it in full eye candy

Btw: who is the hero Nero or Dante

[Ethan_Hunt]

^Errrr....And mid-range=?

AFAIK this game runs on full high @1280x1024 with 4X MSAA on my system.The only place where I had extreme slow downs was in the outdoor areas of The Forest Level.Apart from that no slows down till now.Compared to the rest of the titles released this year, this is the only game which I found optimised to the best.

The major protagonist is Nero but since this series eventually started out with Dante you get to play as him in some levels.It happens as you progress through the storyline.

Update: Just completed Level 14.Beat Echidna with much trial & error.Used the Swordmaster style & that did the trick.Almost nearing the game's completion.6 more levels & am done.

[amitash]

dang i desperately want the game..i have the demo i can play at all max settings at 1680x1050 with 8xaa

[Plasma_Snake]

Well the key to defeat the Bianco and Alto Angelo is to kill the Alto Angelo first as he is , you can say the Captain. Well earlier I was playing the game with 4xAA at 1360x768 res and shadows turned high but after a system reformat and changing AA to 2x and shadows to none, I was able to get 25-30 FPS and in tight areas around 45 FPS.
Well initially one misses the Devil bringer but as you progress and get your hands dirty with more power and styles and moves of Dante, you just don't wanna leave him. his true fighting form is revealed after you get Lucifer, the last weapon. After that you can switch between all the guns and swords on the fly, which believe me is really satisfying! There's nothing like pinning an Alto Angelo to a corner with a couple of Bianco Angelo and executing a Million Stab and change to Gilgamesh on the fly and executing a Million Kick maneuvre and by the time you are done nothing is left standing and by chance something is left then you can always top it all off with a Rocket shot from Pandora.
As far as knowing the history of DMC is concerned Allwynd, you'll get to know it as it is unlocked after you complete the game once. Although some facts in the history aren't mentioned fully and clearly and in that case you know whom to contact, yours truly...

[Ethan_Hunt]

Sure will man.

As for Alto Angelo, The problem when I try to take him out first is those Bianco Angelo's just swarm around me & just thrust the swords so fast I can hardly see it coming.So I have to pin those 2 SOB's down first & then go after Alto Angelo.I just got hold of Gilgamesh & yes it's really starting to show how efficient & versatile Dante can be with his moves.I could really pack a huge punch with that thing.

I have to polish up on the styles as well.Haven't yet gotten to know The Royal Guard & Gunslinger a lot but will do in sometime.Gunslinger sure does have some awesome combos but too bad Ebony & Ivory don't cause much damage.

[Plasma_Snake]

If you get time to look into DMC4's in-game library, you'll find that even there it is mentioned that presence of Alto Angelo grants Bianco Angelo more power and co-ordination so if you take Alto Angelo out first then rest is easy as a pie.
As far as Gunslinger style and Ebony&Ivory are concerned lemme just say that you'll need to pump up your style too with proud souls in order to see the real visage of Dante's fighting capabilities. Gunslinger to the max will show just how much these 2 babies alone can do the damage and Pandora+ Gunslinger, all I can say that you'll be smiling as wide as Joker(Batman wala) and wiping off tears from your cheeks.I know cause I did it.

[Zangetsu]

seems like u both r creating a walkthrough..or tips 4 boss defeat

[Ethan_Hunt]

LOL! Not really man.The ones I was talking to snake was about regular enemies & not bosses. The game is just so exciting that you just can't avoid it.

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by allwyndlima

LOL! Not really man.The ones I was talking to snake was about regular enemies & not bosses. The game is just so exciting that you just can't avoid it.

Ya i know...its awesome...just like other games such as onimusha,pop,GOW

[Plasma_Snake]

Well to give walkthrough is not going to just cut it, you can get them at any games resources site like Gamespot etc but here we can give you heads-up like anyone playing the game for the first time must proceed to level 18,19 and 20 only after they have maxed out their Items and skills even if that means playing the earlier levels over and over again. trust me you won't regret it.

[Ethan_Hunt]

And what's a thread for without anyone discussing about the game itself eh?

[skippednote]

Great game but too much for my lappy

[amrawtanshx]

Started the game...
On Mission 3

[vamsi_krishna]

On of my friends has

intel pentium D 2.80 Ghz processor
intel D 101ggc mother board
960 mb of ram
nvidia geforce 7300 SE gfx card

when he is tried to run the demo of this game given in this moth digit DVD, it showe 6 lines error. saying some crap. He downloded latest display drivers, audio drivers, driectX but the problem presists. Does the rig above supports the DMC 4, if it does what is about the problem. If it supports in the settings lowerd, in 800X600 or 600X400 what will the frame rate he will get. suggest him.

[Ethan_Hunt]

^What exactly is that 'saying some crap' error? His rig will be able to run this game but once he runs into outdoor environments & huge boss fights it will turn into a slide show for sure.So not recommended.

[vamsi_krishna]

he ran benchmarking in his system at mid settings and 800X600 resolution. It is consistant @ 35 fps. when at low it ran more than 50 fps. And i will go to his house today @ 2 pm and, i will post the message in the crappy error.

[Ethan_Hunt]

That's pretty good I'd say.If that is the demo benchmark then it doesn't offer much.But like I said the indoors won't be an issue but outdoors with heavy scene & character rendering will slow down drastically.Especially the Forest levels.

Coming back to the game, I am now at level 19 & it's really beginning to get on my nerves.I beat almost everyone & Angelo Agnus is really a pain in the rear end.The game's save system is totally messed up.I can't continue from my last checkpoint if I reload the whole game which sucks as this level is a extremely long one.Must start all over again now.

[Plasma_Snake]

Patience my friend Patience. I told, anyone who would care to read, that before proceeding to later levels, you MUST max out your Abilities and skills.
As far as beating Angelo Agnus goes all I can say is that you'll have to become all the 7 plagues of Egypt all rolled into one and open up a can of whoop @$$ to take him down. When i was at this level, I dodged his swords, used Pandora(to the MAX) with Gunslinger(to the MAX) and press the B button(if you are using XBOX 360 controller), Pandora transforms into that wicked vehicle and just keep on pressing the B button. Barrage of missiles is launched decimating everything and being. Agnus falls down. Quickly change to Swordmaster, switch ON the Devil trigger and let him have copious amount of Rebellion and Gilgamesh. If you are lucky, like me, Agnus won't even get a single chance to get up let alone fight back.

[Ethan_Hunt]

Wait are we talking about the same level? The moves you're talking about is for Dante & AFAIK after level 18 you get Nero back in action then am I missing something here?

Anyway done with that level.Oh did I forget to mention I was using Nero all this while? This time I just went berserk for some reason.Used Devil Trigger 2 times & bustered him 3 times with more than half the health miraculously remaining.

Now another biatch had to arise in the form on Sanctus.Died nearly 10 times now & barely made it to less than half of his health being depleted.Just taking a break to relax my hands.All that action has almost numbed my hand.

Here's a Youtube video with this last battle with Sanctus without any health damage.Must see.This is too good man.He taunts Sanctus just before he clobbers him down.Awesome video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgIn--xc2mg

[Plasma_Snake]

Originally Posted by allwyndlima

Coming back to the game, I am now at level 19 & it's really beginning to get on my nerves.I beat almost everyone & Angelo Agnus is really a pain in the rear end.The game's save system is totally messed up.I can't continue from my last checkpoint if I reload the whole game which sucks as this level is a extremely long one.Must start all over again now.

Weren't you talking about Angelo Agnus here or what ? Anyways core thing is to kick their rears back to DemonWorld. BTw now since u had ur hands on Dante too, whom do you find better Dante or Nero?

[Ethan_Hunt]

Originally Posted by Plasma_Snake

Weren't you talking about Angelo Agnus here or what ?

Errrr...I was but then in your earlier post you mentioned.....

Originally Posted by Plasma_Snake

When i was at this level, I dodged his swords, used Pandora(to the MAX) with Gunslinger(to the MAX) and press the B button(if you are using XBOX 360 controller), Pandora transforms into that wicked vehicle and just keep on pressing the B button. Barrage of missiles is launched decimating everything and being. Agnus falls down. Quickly change to Swordmaster, switch ON the Devil trigger and let him have copious amount of Rebellion and Gilgamesh. If you are lucky, like me, Agnus won't even get a single chance to get up let alone fight back.

So this confused me a bit.I was playing as Nero which you're supposed to right? Or could we play as Dante too?

Never mind am a bit too jumpy with all the games these days.

With regards to who did I like better Dante or Nero, I have to hand it to you, a few levels with Dante & his multiple styles, I'd root for him.Nero is still awesome but the kid still has more to offer.May be next time or should I say next DMC.

[baccilus]

I have just started out with this game. This game seems like just plain mindless button mashing. Does it get interesting later? And what's with this stupid Save system? I have been playing the same level for such a long time. I don't have the time to sit through the whole thing at one go.

[QwertyManiac]

With great moves comes great button mash!

[Ethan_Hunt]

Originally Posted by baccilus

I have just started out with this game. This game seems like just plain mindless button mashing. Does it get interesting later? And what's with this stupid Save system? I have been playing the same level for such a long time. I don't have the time to sit through the whole thing at one go.

What are your expectations? This isn't POP.So you won't have the puzzle solving part.This will only involve button mashing & more button mashing.Wait did I mentioned more button mashing?

The point of all DMC titles lie in their combat system & storyline.If you have just started out with this series then it's better to know the game first & then approach it.Read around the net for the various combo styles you can perform.If you don't know a bit of it's past story background then it will be good to brush up on that as well.Else you'll start out just like I did which is thinking it would only be button mashing.The bosses are the true highlight.Graphics are gets better with each level.But if you ask of the gameplay only then yes it will get repetitive after a while unless you master the combo system & the styles.

The save system is totally goofed up.It won't allow you to save at any point as you wish but rather when 'a' particular level ends.You can continue from the checkpoints if want to play it at a stretch.Alternatively, you can use the Trainer available on the internet & save at any point & reload back from the same point.

[vamsi_krishna]

By the time i've been to my friends house he has reinalled win xp sp2. And he insalled the game. and BUNGO...! the game is running. I don't remember the error message so i am not posting. Entire game is running consistanly smooth @ above 35 fps. Some times it is 60 fps too. He has lowerd all the settings and kept the resolution of 1024 X 768. I have only one thing to say about the game. A great game. When i saw it is running very smooth in a petty system configuration. A great optimisation for low end machines. I think devil may cry series has only been succssful to do so in recent past. He ran all most all the demos of the latest games but none has ran smoothly. But despite all these things i am very happy, because i am going to get a ps3 by th end of this month and i will start this game only in ps3.

Now he wants to buy the game and seeks my help to do so. PlanetM dealer in my city is saying that he hasn't heared about this game. I think online purchase is only the way. But he says that he can't find DMC 4 pc game in ebay or rediff or yahoo shopping. If you know any vendor online please inform me. So that i can inform him.

regards.

[Ethan_Hunt]

Officially it hasn't released yet.If he wants to buy the game then no better place then Play Asia.Here's the link: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-...4-70-2w44.html

It has free shipping within India & as for the price it's reasonable @1.4k.The shipping is usually carried out within 24hrs or could be more.My friend has successfully ordered couple of games from this website & they all have reached him properly.Though GTA IV had a bit of delays due to stock issues back then but it got delivered after just a small delay.I suppose your friend would need to register & provide the credit card details & then can order it off.Good luck.

[baccilus]

Thanks allwyndlima. I think I will use the trainer for the save system. But I am not sure I will be interested in this for too long.

[Ethan_Hunt]

Anytime pal.I just completed this game right now & it was amazing.Being a fan of this genre it was a fantastic game.Can't wait for DMC 5 now.Hopefully then bring it out on the PC as well.