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05-03-2005, 04:59 PM
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The true rating of Doom3, Half-Life, and Halo 2
Halo 2: No sense of satisfaction while playing, terrible story, requires no skill on-line. The game is utterly geared for starters, newbies.
HL2: Not even close to the original. Hardly any variation in the gameplay, although environments change. Few enemies. Not intense or fun.
Doom 3: Extremely engaging, fresh, and fun. Environment doesnt change much, but the gameplay varies a lot. Many enemies and weapons. Music fits perfectly with environment. Requires a lot of skill and speed to win.
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Doom 3 is by far the best.
What d'yall think abt it. Voice ur opinions..
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05-03-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: The true rating of Doom3, Half-Life, and Halo 2
i have not played HL2 and Halo2 but i have played Doom3
Though the graphics didnt live upto the hype(atleast as far as my system is concerned) the sound and the gameplay are good. it was goddamn scary and i enjoyed every bit of it. I even fell of the chair when an imp suddenly jumped on me outta nowhere. The story of the game is not thaaaaaaat good but not bad at all
HL2 didnt run on my sys bcoz i dont have enough config. I have played HL1 completely and from that i think HL2 has to be a lot betta than Doom3
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05-03-2005, 07:07 PM
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I think saying HL2 doesn't have many enemy is a biased opinion...
HL2 is a great game and enemies come whenever they are required ... and sometimes there are more enemies then you can find in DoomIII like the ravenholm stage...
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05-03-2005, 07:23 PM
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Ravenholm stage symbolizes hl2 for me to outthrow doom3 in graphics, gameplay, enemies
well everone has its own opinion abt games
i din like doom3 becoz it turns repititive after n hour
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05-03-2005, 07:30 PM
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This should've been discussed a long time back....but anyway....You are absolutely off mark on HL2.
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The original? What do you mean? Please elaborate.
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There were variations galore...Pray...didn't you ever use the gravity gun? And what were you thinking when you played the last level? That was the most interesting, unique and spectacular level I've ever played (with the exception of a couple of levels in Tron 2.0)
The variations were brought about by the gravity gun...never have you ever used a gun to leverage the environment to your advantage. And btw, Hl2 just won 6 Bafta awards.
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Now I don't know what to say. You don't count enemies on your finger when you play a game. You go with the flow...It's like watching a movie, if you keep looking at your watch the whole time - it means you aren't enjoying it. And if it's an interesting movie - time .....or the watch is of no concern to you.
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Doom 3: Extremely engaging, fresh, and fun. Environment doesnt change much, but the gameplay varies a lot. Many enemies and weapons. Music fits perfectly with environment.
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Engaging...Yes, the first 3 levels to be exact. The rest is predictable, to the point of desperation. The gameplay does not vary at all throughout. Its one giant base with a helluva lot of monsters who love switching lights on and off - period. I don't know why they couldn't bring some new aspect into the game - at least one outdoor map (enoonmai's explanations cleared that up). The only reason I kept going was because of the graphics...and I didn't want to miss out on the most hyped game of the year. And after I played through it - all I can say is that it's just an eyecandy jamboree. The revolutionary engine, the hype and the geforce 6800 saved the game.
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Nope...just a shotgun and a soulcube will do.
And most important of all..let me quote before the flames begin.
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05-03-2005, 09:20 PM
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05-03-2005, 10:12 PM
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05-03-2005, 10:48 PM
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gamefreak summed up each and everything that I had wanted to say. For me HL2 is THE best game that I have played till date. And the grav gun has been one of the most innovative and best weapon that I have come across in a while. Although the AI was not as revolutionary or smart as I had expected it to be but then it wasent dumb in any way either. They did put up a hard fight.
Doom 3 got too repetetive after a while, and this will be echoed by many people here. It was scary at first but then it got predictable. And yes, I too played it for expiriencing the next level of gaming.
As for Halo 2, I havent played it yet so I will refrain for commenting. Just for the record though, I found Halo for the PC quite overhuped. No idea whats the experience is on an X-Box.
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05-03-2005, 11:02 PM
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ok after a nice post by gamefreak I just want to say ,
I like doom3 more than anything ,i've played hl2 but found boorin cause i am more like shootin than exploring .But hl2 is one hell of a game ,good physics, lot of variation in gameplay ( gravuty gun ,riding vehicles and stuff) ,
and the game looks amazingly real (i really liked the sounds)
I'll pass on halo2 ,Just played for an hour at my frns and it was kinda kewl ,donno how it is on the whole .
For me doom3 Roxxxxx.
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05-03-2005, 11:07 PM
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on the scale of 10
Doom3 10/10
HL2 10/10
Halo2 9/10 (9 is because i don't have a xbox  )
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05-03-2005, 11:28 PM
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guys, i hate playin shooters on consoles coz i miss my keyboard+mouse combo....but other than that, halo2 was strictly ok...it was more or less like halo....grpahics lil better...gameplay slightly changed...but not as good as ppl thought it would b...my friends hate the fact that they spent $50 on halo 2....
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05-03-2005, 11:40 PM
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Re: The true rating of Doom3, Half-Life, and Halo 2
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HL2: Not even close to the original. Hardly any variation in the gameplay, although environments change. Few enemies. Not intense or fun.

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Ravenholm stage symbolizes hl2 for me to outthrow doom3 in graphics, gameplay, enemies
well everone has its own opinion abt games
i din like doom3 becoz it turns repititive after n hour
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do i need say anything more than what sourabh has said
allrite then we could have those REAL TIME FACIAL EXPRESSIONS
in the very last thingy destroying the portal thingy
the GRAPHICS at that scene are FREAKING FREAKING FREAKING SE*Y
man HL 2 simply RULZZ
i hope you have played it man
about DOOM 3 i simply gave up after somedays
repetetive as ABCD
by far HL2 rulzz
man those tricks hidden puzzles are bl**dy brain teasing
in some MID section of the game
while you drive that boat you need to pull in those barrels to make up a MAKESHIFT bridge
another one tht CRANE
man what more do you want SIMPLY IMMERSIVE
ill say again HL2 RULLZZZZZZ
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06-03-2005, 01:34 AM
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Pretty much everything has been said about the game, but I'd like to a little bit of what I think.
When you said Halo 2 requires no skill online, did you think for one second about the asymmetrical CTF maps that are supposed to be so challenging, and when you said that it was geared for n00bs, I take it you are Johnathan Wendell's guru, and if you are, then maybe, just maybe, I will accept what you say.
BTW, one thing has been really nagging me. Where on EARTH did you get to play Halo 2 online? Did you travel just for this to a country that has the XBox Live service?
HL2 has simply the best gameplay on the planet, period. Whether its using the ZPEFM (  ) to use the environment so you can advance in the game, rip zombies in two with saw blades and toss Combine soldiers into disintegrating energy fields or pushing down washing machines onto lifts to create makeshift ramps, HL2 has the most usable physics engine in any game ever created. All you did in Doom 3 was use explosive barrels.
And compared to the original, WTF, you cant even compare it to the original, the Water Hazard, Highway 17, and the last seven levels, standing on their own, were better than a hundred "Surface Tension" levels from HL strung together. (Honestly, when was the last time you saw squad tactics in a pure FPS?) You're right, its not even close to the original - its a billion, trillion, gazillion times better than it.
True when it comes to monsters, HL does have a lower monster count when compared to Doom 3, almost half the number, not to mention there are no end boss monsters (which was truly weird for HL2, even if it was a prequel to HL3 and just half the story like Matrix Reloaded to Revolutions) but they're still great, not to mention that they have the highest polygon counts ever in a game, for the lucky people with an X800 to have gory fun in "We don't go to Ravenholm..."
No gameplay variation, you say? You move from a civilian to a Messiah, using every possible means of transportation and every means of help possible from human, machine and alien, and use every means of transportation and travel between every setting from an urban city in ruins to dingy canals to extensive waterways to dried up oceanbeds to a warzone to an alien Citadel and have every weapon from a measly crowbar to an ultra-power-boosted GG. What more gameplay do you need?
Like gamefreak said, all that drove me in Doom 3 was the graphics engine, and there was no gameplay to speak of. I just loved getting scared (which was the first ten times or whenever a new monster came up) and mindlessly using the Soul Cube all the way from the second level to the end boss in Nightmare mode. I even used killmonsters in one level because I was so bored.  I know D3:RoE should change all that, and I hope it will and I especially look forward to using the Hunters' abilities to warp time, etc. for my own exorcism rituals.
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06-03-2005, 01:58 PM
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Just returned from watching constantine and here i end up
Oh wow another Doom 3 Fanboy Alert
i hate it when ppl start a thread and leave rest ppl firing up the dicussion and fryin their brains out while the thread starter itself runs away and dosent involve himself in the discussion
what the hell's wrong out here havent we compared these games to death now....we got whole buncha discussions going on Which game is the best and then all hell breaks loose....."Oh mommy look i love Doom 3" and "Oh Granpy i love Hl2" oh come on can we just cut the Cr@p and play the game......u like it fine keep it
well anyways here's my 2 bits for this thread and its starter:
Hl2:Grt Game
Doom 3:Again a great game
Halo 2 : Not played the game and plzz dun even care to ask about the first one.....plzzz in simple words "it sucked"
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06-03-2005, 02:26 PM
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It's true, since even Halo 2 fans have admitted that the game is geared for beginners and newbs.
So if a game is easy, that makes it bad?
Anyways, I'll go ahead and post the "true" rating of Doom 3, Half-Life 2, and Halo 2
Half-Life 2 : (95.6% | 96.1%)
Halo 2 : (95.2% | 94.3%)
Doom 3 : (87.9% | 86.9%)
Those are the averages of many reviews, as recorded by GameRankings.com. The number on the left is the average of major publications and websites, the number on the right includes many more.
In the end, it doesn't matter what they think, or what anyone other than the player thinks. It's up to YOU to determine which game you like more.
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06-03-2005, 02:26 PM
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My opinion is not biased. It's true, since even Halo 2 fans have admitted that the game is geared for beginners and newbs.
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06-03-2005, 02:28 PM
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Uh-huh! And where did you play it online and said that online gaming in Halo 2 required no skills?
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06-03-2005, 02:40 PM
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OMG ! blasphemy ! Doom3 isnt all that gr8. I'd rate hl2 9/10
I havent played halo 2 so no point in gauging it.
Doom3 deserves arnd 7 or 8 on 10.
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06-03-2005, 04:25 PM
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dude, I played that in the US some time before .... It really doesnt ....
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06-03-2005, 05:46 PM
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Right, so you say, on the XBox Live, and pray what gametype did you play? Slayer? Team Slayer? Rockets? Swords? Snipers? Phantoms? Team Phantoms? Elimination? Phantom Elimination? King? Team King? Phantom King? Crazy King? Team Crazy King? Oddball? Rocketball? Swordball? Teamball? Lowball? Fiesta? 2 on 1 Juggernaut? 3 on 1 Juggernaut? Ninjanaut? Phantom Fodder? Drednaut? Multi-flag CTF? CTF-Classic? 1-Flag CTF? 1-Flag CTF Fast? Multi Bomb Assault? Single Bomb Assault? Neutral Bomb? Single Bomb Fast? Blast Resort? 3-plot Territories? Land grab? Gold Rush? Control Issues? Contention? Can you pick one of these and describe how gameplay was on them when "you" played them?
And which map did you play on? Lockout? Ascention? Midship? Ivory Tower? Beaver Creek? Burial Mounds? Colossus? Zanzibar? Coagulation? Headlong? Waterworks? Foundation? How many of these maps you played on? I would really like to discuss Zanzibar with you because I've seen SO much of it on video. Surely you must have played that, its the most favorite Halo 2 MP map ever.
Could you please post some information on your "gameplay" and the "XBox Live" experience and how badly Zanzibar "sucked" and was "geared for n00bs and required no skills"?
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06-03-2005, 05:49 PM
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Oh boy! Now this is intresting!!!
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06-03-2005, 06:23 PM
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HL2 is far better.
DOOM 3 isn't bad 2.
HALO 2!
It don't deserve to be here.
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07-03-2005, 11:39 AM
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LOL....enoonmai...go boy go! The thing is these peolpe dont understand what onlien gaming is all about. Most of them are so good that they make bots on nightmare mode look silly. I personally experienced it when I played quake 3 online. I thought I was good cos I played well on the LAN gaming here and did well with bots on nightmare mode. Nothin even comes close to online mode. Those guys are on a entirely different level. The whole thing what he wrote seems to have been picked up somewhere else...lol.
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07-03-2005, 11:47 AM
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well said icecoolz....online gaming is a whole new ball game all together....u may rock with the bots, but when u play online, u play against ppl who do nothing other than play games all day
going up against such ppl is always gonna shatter ur confidence in ur abilites....no matter what game it is....a high ping rate doesnt help either
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07-03-2005, 11:54 AM
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^^ lol after playing with such HARD CORE gamers
youd surely wish your ping rates go down
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hahahaha! Perhaps hes chicked out of the thread ?  Hey guys...How about a quake 3 session for digit people ?
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Lol....yea right...he oughta make that U.S trip once again to check out on some more facts i guess.....Btw Q3Arena.....hmmm lets see sure man but been a long time since i laid my hands on that game.....damm i miss that BFG And rocket Launchers and oh yea Sarge's Cigar
Btw how will this take place i mean does someone has to host a server or something....sheezzz man all the fun starts when i have my Exams....
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Well am sure we can set up some server. I was only wondering since a lot of us do have broadband connection now. So this is just a thought.
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Setup a server eh? Actually we tried that a few months back at SKOAR! Prof, me, Arachnid and a few other SKOAR!ians got together to have a few frag sessions in Quake 3 and RtCW:Enemy Territory. I was the lucky one who got to host the game.
Quake 3 went...well...lets say, it was great for me. All Prof could do was jump up and down, while rest would connect and then get kicked out promptly. RtCW was a bit better because we were able to finish atleast one round, with Prof killing us in an ambush! I got my revenge in the next! Muhahaha!
The best experience till date has been when I hosted UT 2004 demo. Me and two of my SKOARI!ians buddy were able to have many rounds and that too with very little lag!
So if any one wants to volunteer and try to host the server, I am ready for it. Who is the lucky guy?
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