The 'Underdog' Games....list 'em please!

gamefreak14 · 02-03-2005, 12:42 AM

By 'underdog' games....I refer to games which never got their due...inspite of the stellar reviews and gameplay. Do list games which you've found to be truly spectacular inspite of being commercial duds. I list mine here....
1. Tron 2.0 - A beautiful RPG cum FPS which ran on the Lithtech engine. Excellent story, graphics and addictive gameplay.
2. Freedom Fighters - This one never made it big, inspite of having the best orchestral score for any game till date IMHO.
3. Thief 3 : Deadly Shadows - The best of the thief series, innovative gameplay and storyline never made it big.
4. Vampire : The Masquerade Redemption - Based on the source engine, this FPS cum RPG made by developer Troika could be considered a flop, now that the company is gonna shut shop.

ctrl_alt_del · 02-03-2005, 12:48 AM

I agree with you on "Freedom Fighters". A really superb game. I wonder why I didn't I try this earlier. One of the best gaming experiences I ever had. A refreshing story line. Some great 3rd person shooting action. An alternate future setting. Truly the marks of a runaway success. Sad!
As for the score, Jespyer Kyd is a master! I would suggest fans of this game to download the game's theme music from its website. Truly remarkable.

cool_dude_prav · 02-03-2005, 10:03 AM

Well I remember a "StarGunner" from Apogee which was a DosGame!!!

It was quite good!!!

If anyone has a link to its demo or full version please provide....

Serial_Killer · 02-03-2005, 10:15 AM

I think Deus Ex didnt get what it deserved , Even KOHAN2 was comercial unsucessful I think ,but was a awesome game .

Nemesis · 02-03-2005, 12:17 PM

hmmm...i would say aliens vs predator 2...i dont think it got the credit it deserved...(correct me if im wrong) its a gr8 game.....and any1 who loved doom3 will definitely love avp2...the graphics r awesome considering it's such an old game....and 3 diff game modes...awesome game...good multiplayer too....

satanlives · 02-03-2005, 12:29 PM

amm dude i think freedom fighter got all the attention it deserved man awesome game played on low end systems as well i mean cmon if it was a hit in smal town like vizag where most ppl think that 4mx 440 is a highend card

..

Hey for me i guess Unreal 2 didnt really get what it deserved even the ratings for it were not what the game deserved. It was an awesome game with cool grafix and awesome storyline and really fun gameplay .. i loved the game finsished it twice

dunno why the reviews were so bad for it

vysakh · 02-03-2005, 02:48 PM

BROKEN SWORD : THE SLEEPING DRAGON

Its a single player RPG adventure game. The graphics are not the best but the story is good. I liked it very much. Too bad nobody has a good opinion about it...

Charley · 02-03-2005, 03:15 PM

Clive Barker's Undying

Outstanding graphics and atmospheric sound effects make this horror-themed FPS a classic.

Grim Fandango

Great jazz soundtrack and stylized graphics in a noir adventure game.

Planescape: Torment

One of the finest story-driven RPGs.

DKant · 02-03-2005, 05:46 PM

Deus Ex. The first time I played it, it was the story. And the 20th time that I am playing it, it's the gameplay. SHEEEER gameplay.

And Ion Storm's shut shop.

Life sux...

NikhilVerma · 02-03-2005, 08:02 PM

I thought that "Freedom Fighters" was a sucessful made!!!

Damn ! It was a great game! One of my all time fav's

BTw "Clive Barker's Undying "'s graphics are not that great...

ctrl_alt_del · 02-03-2005, 08:51 PM

Yet the game is rated 9.1 on the scale and "superb" on gamespot.com. That goes on to say a lot about the game.

Nemesis · 02-03-2005, 09:12 PM

@satanlives: unreal 2 got buried beneath UT2003 and UT2004...i agree, it was a gr8 game....

Ethan_Hunt · 02-03-2005, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

@satanlives: unreal 2 got buried beneath UT2003 and UT2004...i agree, it was a gr8 game....

Actually the Whole Unreal series got buried under the UT Series....First off the concept of Unreal Seemed good and unique and stuff but alas as Multiplayer And Fast Lan Action Grew it tend to Give more and More Boost to the Ut series....actually when i first started up with the Ut series was simply blown out by its pace and Gfx but till i heard about the Unreal series SIGH it didnt have much appeal then....but was fair enough

but am really lookin forward for the Unreal 3 Engine to Make it up for the series 8)

Major-Minor · 02-03-2005, 10:05 PM

Yep Gotta agree folks, Undying was a Superb Game, I picked it up last year after reading the rave review it got at GameSpot. Really sends the chills up the spine, a true horror classic.

tarey_g · 03-03-2005, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Freedom Fighters - inspite of having the best orchestral score for any game till date IMHO.

true

tarey_g · 03-03-2005, 12:47 AM

Tenchu:silent Assasins, very less ppl hav played it but i liked it very much.

liquid_nitrogen88 · 03-03-2005, 12:58 AM

No one into Strategy & city building?
Zeus-The master of Olympus remains the game 2 which i've devoted my maximum time...I went on to buy Acropolis,Ceaser,Pharaoh & Empire-The Rise of middle kingdom...But Zeus remains my favorite ....It offers tremendous replayability....i have played the same missions over n over in diff ways without gettin bored....good story lines....uncomplicated controls....minimal system req.... still love this game....

ctrl_alt_del · 03-03-2005, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Tenchu:silent Assasins

What is it like? Whats the genre?

tarey_g · 03-03-2005, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctrl_alt_del

Tenchu:silent Assasins

What is it like? Whats the genre?

Action , play as a ninja , use stealth ,great music ,gr8 story, gr8 ending. a must play.

swatkat · 03-03-2005, 02:36 AM

i think its gonna be, MDK and MDK2....

Sourabh · 03-03-2005, 02:55 AM

whoa guys thx for letting me recollect all these games

yea TENCHU SILENT ASSASIn on my PS emulator it was awesome

u wod still love to play again and again

STEALTH STEALTH STEALTH and lil but of patience is wht is required with it

and MDK well game of the year 1995 dun remember exactly which year

played it like hell on my tnt riva 2 card tht time which costed me a bomb that time not to say, firstly i completed the DEMO the day itself when i got the subscribed copy of digit/chip that time and got the full version

the best things abt these games were they were addictive and not too much system heavy a common person cod somehoe afford it

and there werent any resolution issues AA, AF thinggy in it

pure gameplay at its best

rajesh · 03-03-2005, 08:13 AM

How about System Shock 2?

Did it become famous?

GameAddict · 03-03-2005, 09:45 AM

Hi,

Yes, MDK was great! Also spent whole night playing Jagged Alliance 2, JA2:UB and JA2:Wildfire. Try it out guys!

Got MDK2 too, will try it out soon!

Bye!

GA

thegame_rulez · 03-03-2005, 10:53 AM

i wont dare say it is underrated but if you ask me not many people liked the sims series even when it was highly addictive..especially sims2..which is a gr8 game.. i sit for about 3-4 hours on this game alone..and wOOhOO ppl..

Darthvader · 03-03-2005, 11:27 AM

By the way, it was vampire- bloodlines by troika on the hl2 source not masquerade redemption

Has any of u tried freedom force its awesome.
and now the third reich is coming out !!!!!!!

Obviously system shock 2 was one of the greatest of all time
BIOSHOCKis foolowing it.

And dont confuse freedom force with freedom fighters

Darthvader · 03-03-2005, 11:35 AM

Comon sims is the greatest selling game of all time

infernus · 03-03-2005, 12:05 PM

Yeah ,The Sims is the greatest selling game. The most sold if im not mistaken.
Yeah, Ive Played Freedom Force. Its Great. The Idea of having superheroes and lots of superpowers is cool. I saw the Third Reich Preview on Gamer TV. The Graphics System hasnt got improved by much. Oh Yes! A good decision by irrational games. El Diablo is still in! I like him much but only next to my custom superhero. I so hate the idea of putting Minuteman as the lead role in Freedom Force. He seems missing in the third Reich. The game also features plenty more superpowers and new characters.

Darthvader · 03-03-2005, 12:18 PM

Ya and wat about the new and improved multiplayer story m ode

gamefreak14 · 03-03-2005, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darthvader

By the way, it was vampire- bloodlines by troika on the hl2 source not masquerade redemption

Has any of u tried freedom force its awesome.
and now the third reich is coming out !!!!!!!

Obviously system shock 2 was one of the greatest of all time
BIOSHOCKis foolowing it.

And dont confuse freedom force with freedom fighters

Sorry... it's Vampires : Masquerade Bloodlines...I think the failure can be attributed to them not 'refining' the game. No glitches..but the incessant stuttering totally screws up the experience.
Just check out this bloke in the bar...gr8 graphics, at a ccccooo--ssssssstt. http://www.strategyinformer.com/shoo...odlines-22.jpg

infernus · 03-03-2005, 12:52 PM

Yeah, the multiplayer would be cool. Id get a chance to show off my custom character and his powers. There are 8 different multiplayer modes. They include: arena, team arena, deathmatch, team deathmatch, massacre, team massacre, and tag. There is also this Freedom Force fansite I stumbled upon It has a forum, game characters to download, a freedom force editor, and also player skins.

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gamefreak14 In The Zone Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 219	The 'Underdog' Games....list 'em please! By 'underdog' games....I refer to games which never got their due...inspite of the stellar reviews and gameplay. Do list games which you've found to be truly spectacular inspite of being commercial duds. I list mine here.... 1. Tron 2.0 - A beautiful RPG cum FPS which ran on the Lithtech engine. Excellent story, graphics and addictive gameplay. 2. Freedom Fighters - This one never made it big, inspite of having the best orchestral score for any game till date IMHO. 3. Thief 3 : Deadly Shadows - The best of the thief series, innovative gameplay and storyline never made it big. 4. Vampire : The Masquerade Redemption - Based on the source engine, this FPS cum RPG made by developer Troika could be considered a flop, now that the company is gonna shut shop. __________________ DON\'T waste money on expensive ipods. Simply think of your favourite tune and hum it. If you want to \"switch tracks\", simply think of another song you like and hum that instead.

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ctrl_alt_del A Year Closer To Heaven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,369	I agree with you on "Freedom Fighters". A really superb game. I wonder why I didn't I try this earlier. One of the best gaming experiences I ever had. A refreshing story line. Some great 3rd person shooting action. An alternate future setting. Truly the marks of a runaway success. Sad! As for the score, Jespyer Kyd is a master! I would suggest fans of this game to download the game's theme music from its website. Truly remarkable. __________________ The ANGRY Pixel proudly announces the launch of India's first ever launch center for a game, The ANGRY Pixel - Milestone Interactive Street Fighter 4 Launch Center

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Serial_Killer Right Off the Assembly Line Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 29	I think Deus Ex didnt get what it deserved , Even KOHAN2 was comercial unsucessful I think ,but was a awesome game .

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Nemesis Wise Old Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,634	hmmm...i would say aliens vs predator 2...i dont think it got the credit it deserved...(correct me if im wrong) its a gr8 game.....and any1 who loved doom3 will definitely love avp2...the graphics r awesome considering it's such an old game....and 3 diff game modes...awesome game...good multiplayer too....

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Charley Just Do It Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,063	Clive Barker's Undying Outstanding graphics and atmospheric sound effects make this horror-themed FPS a classic. Grim Fandango Great jazz soundtrack and stylized graphics in a noir adventure game. Planescape: Torment One of the finest story-driven RPGs.

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DKant In The Zone Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a creaking plashtik chair Posts: 265	Deus Ex. The first time I played it, it was the story. And the 20th time that I am playing it, it's the gameplay. SHEEEER gameplay. And Ion Storm's shut shop. Life sux... __________________ An empire, 37 inches and growing...

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NikhilVerma Alpha Geek Join Date: May 2004 Location: India Posts: 930	I thought that "Freedom Fighters" was a sucessful made!!! Damn ! It was a great game! One of my all time fav's BTw "Clive Barker's Undying "'s graphics are not that great...

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ctrl_alt_del A Year Closer To Heaven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,369	Yet the game is rated 9.1 on the scale and "superb" on gamespot.com. That goes on to say a lot about the game. __________________ The ANGRY Pixel proudly announces the launch of India's first ever launch center for a game, The ANGRY Pixel - Milestone Interactive Street Fighter 4 Launch Center

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Nemesis Wise Old Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,634	@satanlives: unreal 2 got buried beneath UT2003 and UT2004...i agree, it was a gr8 game....

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Major-Minor Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 86	Yep Gotta agree folks, Undying was a Superb Game, I picked it up last year after reading the rave review it got at GameSpot. Really sends the chills up the spine, a true horror classic.

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Sourabh Laptoping Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,207	whoa guys thx for letting me recollect all these games yea TENCHU SILENT ASSASIn on my PS emulator it was awesome u wod still love to play again and again STEALTH STEALTH STEALTH and lil but of patience is wht is required with it and MDK well game of the year 1995 dun remember exactly which year played it like hell on my tnt riva 2 card tht time which costed me a bomb that time not to say, firstly i completed the DEMO the day itself when i got the subscribed copy of digit/chip that time and got the full version the best things abt these games were they were addictive and not too much system heavy a common person cod somehoe afford it and there werent any resolution issues AA, AF thinggy in it pure gameplay at its best

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GameAddict In The Zone Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 265	MDK and JA2 Hi, Yes, MDK was great! Also spent whole night playing Jagged Alliance 2, JA2:UB and JA2:Wildfire. Try it out guys! Got MDK2 too, will try it out soon! Bye! GA

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thegame_rulez In The Zone Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 240	i wont dare say it is underrated but if you ask me not many people liked the sims series even when it was highly addictive..especially sims2..which is a gr8 game.. i sit for about 3-4 hours on this game alone..and wOOhOO ppl..

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Darthvader Back From Deathstar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rome 233 B.C Posts: 761	By the way, it was vampire- bloodlines by troika on the hl2 source not masquerade redemption Has any of u tried freedom force its awesome. and now the third reich is coming out !!!!!!! Obviously system shock 2 was one of the greatest of all time BIOSHOCKis foolowing it. And dont confuse freedom force with freedom fighters

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Darthvader Back From Deathstar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rome 233 B.C Posts: 761	Comon sims is the greatest selling game of all time

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infernus Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 90	Yeah ,The Sims is the greatest selling game. The most sold if im not mistaken. Yeah, Ive Played Freedom Force. Its Great. The Idea of having superheroes and lots of superpowers is cool. I saw the Third Reich Preview on Gamer TV. The Graphics System hasnt got improved by much. Oh Yes! A good decision by irrational games. El Diablo is still in! I like him much but only next to my custom superhero. I so hate the idea of putting Minuteman as the lead role in Freedom Force. He seems missing in the third Reich. The game also features plenty more superpowers and new characters. __________________ FEAR KNOCKED AT THE DOOR. FAITH ANSWERED AND NO ONE WAS THERE.

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Darthvader Back From Deathstar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rome 233 B.C Posts: 761	Ya and wat about the new and improved multiplayer story m ode

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infernus Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 90	Yeah, the multiplayer would be cool. Id get a chance to show off my custom character and his powers. There are 8 different multiplayer modes. They include: arena, team arena, deathmatch, team deathmatch, massacre, team massacre, and tag. There is also this Freedom Force fansite I stumbled upon It has a forum, game characters to download, a freedom force editor, and also player skins. __________________ FEAR KNOCKED AT THE DOOR. FAITH ANSWERED AND NO ONE WAS THERE.

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