Good news for Intel G965 Users who use integrated graphics

[Choto Cheeta]

Originally Posted by edburg

Do i sound like a AMD fanboy ? I think so.

I dont mind at all

Originally Posted by Edburg

PS:I have even heard about the IGP in asus 690G mobo overclock to have 20% improvemnet....now thats cool.Since u dont overclock u wont need this anyway...

umm.. in that case i would say take a look at G965 based P5B-V / VM boards, are they bad overclocker ?? I have one of those and really not some kick as performance as like Nvidia chipset based ones, but not bad att all

Originally Posted by edburg

and which model of G33 mobo did u see and its price....the one which i saw was a intel DG33U for 5700 which is significantly higher than corresponding 690G...even asus 690G costs about 3.6 only and MSI one just 3k.Is the G33 IGP inferior than those on G965 ?

Well prices will be around same or lower than DG965RY for the TL mobo, but i didnt get the exact price... guess as RY is just Rs. 4800 now, so will be a 4500 board !!!

and yes from the wiki link seems it is one board which come one on wiki put bellow G965 ones !!!

but take a look at the specification on Intel Web Site... G33 and G965 as there it says X3100 with G33 will support only Shader Model 2.0 where as G965 will support Shader Model 3.0



where as Wiki as well as this Review do says it (G33 / GMA X3100) will suppose Shader Model 3.0....

Pretty confusing, will email Intel

I thot in a cafe more than 1 system will be used and power consumption will play a big role

This time around I would be going for TFTs !!! that would save a lot of Power

Since u have used all proccies u may know better than me.

I said I used but why u make the comment as I know better than u , we come here to share our thoughts, so i really dont like these stuff of no u are better I am not things...

I am open for suggetion from any one even if he had no Personal system

also the fact that the drivers for intsl IGP with full support are supposed to come only in next year

I agree and add to that, Support for DX10 is not yet official, but though its roumor, but its expected that these will support DX 10

[Edburg]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

umm.. in that case i would say take a look at G965 based P5B-V / VM boards, are they bad overclocker ?? I have one of those and really not some kick as performance as like Nvidia chipset based ones, but not bad att all

I meant overclocking the IGP itself and not the proccy.i dont know which way u took it.

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

Well prices will be around same or lower than DG965RY for the TL mobo, but i didnt get the exact price... guess as RY is just Rs. 4800 now, so will be a 4500 board !!!

Dont u think u can further bring costs down a bit by going with correponding AMD one because of cheaper and equally capable mobo and also the power consumption along with TFTs will make cost of ownership less in the long run....
[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

Pretty confusing, will email Intel

I read somewhere that G33 has 3100 only and not X3100.....not sure

Originally Posted by Choto Cheeta

This time around I would be going for TFTs !!

Wow ur cafe should be one awesome experience with all u have done.....havent found a cafe like that in my place.

[mngm]

hey guys... i've just installed S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and it works fine, but looks incredibly bad... its like you see a kind of fog over everything that's not close to the player...

[yesh1683]

Originally Posted by mngm

hey guys... i've just installed S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and it works fine, but looks incredibly bad... its like you see a kind of fog over everything that's not close to the player...

I played S.T.A.L.K.E.R. without problem

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has lot of bugs so update the game and try

[Faun]

Originally Posted by yesh1683

I played S.T.A.L.K.E.R. without problem

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has lot of bugs so update the game and try

yeah i completed s.t.a.l.k.e.r on GMA x3000, and it played like charm at 800x600 res and dynamic lighting off.

try updating to v1.0003

[gangadhar]

Really Good News For 965 Users.Thank's Buddy For U r Info

[mngm]

Originally Posted by yesh1683

I played S.T.A.L.K.E.R. without problem

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has lot of bugs so update the game and try

Originally Posted by T159

yeah i completed s.t.a.l.k.e.r on GMA x3000, and it played like charm at 800x600 res and dynamic lighting off.

try updating to v1.0003

thanks guys i really dont know why i didnt thought that on the firt place, sorry

[rakeshishere]

Originally Posted by mngm

thanks guys i really dont know why i didnt thought that on the firt place, sorry

Most of the times its this way around to troubleshoot gaming related problems

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by mngm

hey guys... i've just installed S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and it works fine, but looks incredibly bad... its like you see a kind of fog over everything that's not close to the player...

I haven't not installed stalker or seen the engine files. There should be an option in the game somewhere or in one of the config files about "Dsiplay culling" & "Draw Distance". Try changing those values

[mngm]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

I haven't not installed stalker or seen the engine files. There should be an option in the game somewhere or in one of the config files about "Dsiplay culling" & "Draw Distance". Try changing those values

sorry but im not that stupid, i say far from player, but its a filter problem, not o draw distance issue, this also happens to me with battlefield 2, but... with shadows, i've updated STALKER, but i cant run it now, im busy with other stuff... maybe tomorrow ill give it a try

[lavi87]

HELP NEEDED 5.1 ON VISTA NOT WORKING.
i m having intel DG965 WH( & C2D E6700) . with latest sigmatel audio drivers.on the audio setup all speakers work. but when game or music/movie is played audio isn't 5.1 only front speakers work.also my microphone doesn't work in VISTA.

everything is fine in windowsxp. no trouble
PLEASE HELP ON VISTA

[deathvirus_me]

Originally Posted by mngm

hey guys... i've just installed S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and it works fine, but looks incredibly bad... its like you see a kind of fog over everything that's not close to the player...

Hmmm , have u enable "Full Dynamic Lighting" ?? That could cause problem ..

[yesh1683]

I Was busy playing Farcry
Farcry can be played at 1024 at all settings set to high and with AF8x but water quality medium and plays very smooth no lags at all

Some of the Farcry Images played with x3000 with above settings

[yesh1683]

[Faun]

Omg !!!!

[s18000rpm]

dude, pls use Thumbnail of these images

[deathvirus_me]

looks like how it runs on a MX4000 ..

[yesh1683]

Originally Posted by s18000rpm

dude, pls use Thumbnail of these images

Edited My post

Originally Posted by deathvirus_me

looks like how it runs on a MX4000 ..

I doubt MX4000 plays Farcry at these settings

[deathvirus_me]

Hmmm .. i think i played it on a XP 2400+ , MX4000 , 768 MB RAM , 1024*768 , medium .. actually , the "water" quality is the same .. ..

[Faun]

Originally Posted by deathvirus_me

Hmmm .. i think i played it on a XP 2400+ , MX4000 , 768 MB RAM , 1024*768 , medium .. actually , the "water" quality is the same .. ..

hey MX4000 is the least supported card in graphics cards history.
Well i was one of the victim and later shell out some more bucks to get a 6600.

And while Farcray was playable on MX4000 but it was giving black artifacts.

i myself has checked that GMA X3000 surpasses even GF 6600 256MB 128bit in some games.

[Third Eye]

Try Oblivion guys.

[Edburg]

can anyone compare this with the 690G IGP...as the later was better initially but may be after this new driver,things have changed...

and any performance difference b/w X3000 and the once in 33G chipset ?

[yesh1683]

Originally Posted by Edburg

can anyone compare this with the 690G IGP...as the later was better initially but may be after this new driver,things have changed...

and any performance difference b/w X3000 and the once in 33G chipset ?

x3000 intel clear video is better than nvidia pure video
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2942&p=10

here are some gaming benchmarks without beta
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2942&p=8
with beta i got around 30 FPS in HL2
In battlefield i got around 25

so my guess is x3000 is better

[s18000rpm]

i get 40+ FPS on average in CSS (while not playing MP).
if playing MP, then its around 25-30FPS.

[Edburg]

^^are these benchies with the same settings and resolution as with the one in anandtech ? If so then the X3000 is definitely better with beta drivers,may be they can improve further with final drivers.......

and about my other query,any performance differnece between this X3000 and X3100 in G33 chipsets ?

[DavidC1]

and about my other query,any performance differnece between this X3000 and X3100 in G33 chipsets ?

Hello guys, I am new to the forum . I had to register just to reply this(lol) but probably I'll be useful.

The successor to the X3000 is NOT the G33 chipset, but the X3500 on the G35 chipset. G33 chipset has GMA 3100 core, not a GMA X3100. Here's the following list for Intel IGPs.

G965: GMA X3000
Q965/Q963: GMA 3000
GM965(For Santa Rosa, mobile chipset): GMA X3100
G33: GMA 3100
G35: GMA X3500

The real GMA X3100 is on the mobile chipset. G33's GMA 3100 is basically Q965/Q963 chipsets with update to the ClearVideo technology, and the baseline memory controller architecture of the 3 series chipsets. The IGP however, hasn't really advanced. It only supports Vertex Shader and hardware T&L in software.

Simply checking the Intel page will confirm this:
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/G33/index.htm

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 3D enhancements enable greater flexibility and scalability and improved realism with support for Microsoft DirectX* 9.0c Shader Model 2.0, OpenGL* 1.5. Intel® Graphics also support the highest levels of the Windows Vista* Aero experience.
Hope that helps. The performance is lower than the G965 of course.

but take a look at the specification on Intel Web Site... G33 and G965 as there it says X3100 with G33 will support only Shader Model 2.0 where as G965 will support Shader Model 3.0



where as Wiki as well as this Review do says it (G33 / GMA X3100) will suppose Shader Model 3.0....

Pretty confusing, will email Intel

Reviewers are humans, and they make mistakes. I did a lot of searching about this, and until 1-2 weeks before release, I did not know that the G33 chipset was actually the IGP for people who uses their computer for video watching, etc, not 3D gaming. Because of the general lack of interest on IGPs, and the fact that the G33 name further clouded the reality, it was believed by lots of people that G33 is the logical successor to the G965, and the G35 will be the high end. The latter is true, but the former is not, and the G33 doesn't support the advanced 3D hardware features G965 has.

[s18000rpm]

damn

CMR05 runs without any FPS issues ONLY in RAINY Stages, now how weird is that? LOL, games become slow when Rain effect is there, but GMA X3000 says otherwise LOL

tried runnin it at lowest setting, but still FPS issue is there in dry stages, maybe the SUN (light) causes the FPS issue.

my olg IGP GMA 900 never had a problem like this.

[Faun]

Originally Posted by s18000rpm

damn

CMR05 runs without any FPS issues ONLY in RAINY Stages, now how weird is that? LOL, games become slow when Rain effect is there, but GMA X3000 says otherwise LOL

tried runnin it at lowest setting, but still FPS issue is there in dry stages, maybe the SUN (light) causes the FPS issue.

my olg IGP GMA 900 never had a problem like this.

thats really weird ,these intel guys are

I had same kinda problem in Testdrive Unlimited, i was getting better FPS at higher resolution and the game was lagging at lower resolution.

[Edburg]

@DavidC1....thanks a lot man for your effort in clearing my doubts...

[yesh1683]

Intel have released final drivers supporting hardware vertex 3.0 [driver version 14.31]

Confirmed Production Version; Fully validated and (WHQL certified)

**Download 32 bit XP**



Time for testing all non working games again and lagging games

vista drivers are still in beta

**Download 64 bit XP**