WHY SHOULDN`T WE BUY PIRATED GAMES?

[mandar5]

Hi ! A good friend of mine is addicted to games. He always buys pirated stuff and i donot like that.We end up having a fight about the above issue.But i get no strong reason to divert his mind,so can nebody help me tell him the bad effects of pirated stuff?

[vijay_7287]

well maybe a lot philosophy goes into this one


since he is addicted to games , just bug him tht the pirated stuff is a lot easier to play then the original one coz many files are burnt out

(though tht is not the case)


and moreover people who play the game best and who can visualize it more are the ones who end up making them ....

so pirated stuff is like screwing all their hardwork .....

its just abt morals and moreover on a serious note
u can get seriously screwed if caught playin pirated stuff ...
well here Lucky to be Indian ( laws are not tht stringent!!!)

[shaunak]

every year over 17 [at last count] game companies shut down even though they produce reletively hit games all thanks to piracy. hundreds of ppl lose their jobs.
more over you could land in jail even if you are caught buying pirates stuff.
if a person loves games and lands on a cash crunch he could always buy cheaper but older games or resort to freeware like www.americasarmy.com/downloads.

[Nemesis]

I wonder how well this will work, but you can try and explain the economics of making video games. The budgets run into millions of dollars and if people simply pirate games, then how will game developers get their money back? Besides, if you made a game, would you like to lose money because hundreds of thousands of people just chose to get pirated copies instead of paying you for your efforts?

[DAVIS]

i don't have any ideas to stop him, but i hate pirates

[abhijit_reddevil]

Also on the other hand, how many of us use original versions of windows (XP or 2000)?

[mako_123]

As the price of pirated games are 10 times less then the price of the original games , it is the main reason for buying pirated stuff . So unless you got lot of money , you have no other option but to go for pirated games .

[readermaniax]

the price of pirated windows xp is rs 30

[QwertyManiac]

try this wiki on warez... u may find some measures points there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez

[wizrulz]

there r two veiw points to this topic
Developers Veiw: What is piracy? Copying illegally and benefitting from it. Just for example think that in an exam for interveiw in a good company, a person copies from u gets more marks and gets selected and ur r left behind how will u feel? Thats how the developers feel. Not getting the due for their efforts and money they put in.
Buyers Veiw: Every buyer before buying sees the best available price for the stuff he buys. So if one is getting same stuff for day 50 bucks y will one spend 1000 over it? he will get 20 copies like that in same money.

So its would be gradual process to stop piracy, both developer and buyer should understand this. Developer should rate his product acoording to the economy of country and buyer should be aware and avoid piracy so autoamically pirated stuff will stop coming in market.

SOLUTION- All cds/dvds should be made one time install. if further assisstance is required he should contact the company distributers so that he can get another copy after submitting his old copy at nominal rate.

[con_tester]

No one will buy pirated if originals comes in no more than 300.
That way game developers can earn more money.

[adithya_spec]

i absolutely agree with con_teaser
that is what shud happen
all the nessseccarry softwares price shud be reduced
if we get windows vista in no more that 400-500rs
who ever gonna pirate it
if i were billgates i would have done this ages before
ok it may take one r to years to reduce piracy but it is the best way

[mandar5]

Yup i agree with your opinion.I think thats da best solution

[speedyguy]

totally agreed on last three posts....unless ppl find it easy to buy original games they wont go with them...d fact is our country fails frm d economy point of view but games r not launched in india...developers are abroad where every person is rich enuf n intelligent to buy original games.

con_tester is absolately rite...make d games priced @ 300 bux(if practical n possible) n piracy is over.

cheers

[casanova]

ok if we buy pirated games, we get that cheap and hence we buy more and more games.
and a we have more games, we cant concentrate on any single game and the saying "Jack of all trades, master of none" holds good.
Also as we dont play the game to its full potential, we betray the game developers in two ways
1. Not paying them
2. Not utilising their coding i.e; not playing to the potential

[himtuna]

Entertainment is done on the cost of cheapest human tendency of cheating others and thier hardwork . Piracy is not the act of illegaly using the soft or listen music but an act of infecting the society, disturbing the developers, making a deep pit for ourself.
If some is indulged in such acitvity he/she has no life morals. He can turn into bin laden, thief, rapist.etc


Tell me how many of us has
:Original XP
:Buy MP3 cd's
ownload keygen & serials from torrents.
:Go to palika and buy latest games just for Rs. 30 or even less.

Nothing is wrong in this world.Everything is Right.
Difference is created by good and bad, likes and dislikes.
People choose what is beneficial to them ..Good or Bad.
It is only the publicing the authenticity and naming the truth that holds the world of words and feeling.

[adityaksharma]

its all economics. why do people in the US....where a majority of the game developing companies are located...buy original games,they can afford them now what these companies must understand that in a developing country like india people cannot afford to buy games worth 1000's bucks....age 2 retailed for 2500 i bought it for 50.....i saved money.....but when i heard the price.....i realised i'd have to wait for a loooong time........
point is developer companies must realise that we are not capable of paying tht amount and thus must retail games at a lower price to tackle piracy

[imported_dheeraj_kumar]

Originally Posted by readermaniax

the price of pirated windows xp is rs 30

bring me a blank cd and i'll copy it for free

actually, this is the latest craze in town... burning stuff for other people. i admit i use pirated stuff, but they work, and its free, i cant imagine who would pay 499$ for buying micro$oft visual studio for just doing a project..so we just get it off net

besides, coming to games, original games cost an elephant, and besides they ned the dumb cd to play, making read times slow, just think of it... cd read speed is max 52x, while the hard disk spd is waaaay higher .. so everyone prefers ripped versions,

i dont need to say anything about movies, cuz parents shout if you say you wanna go to a movie...they dont understand its for fun...and they shout more if its an A rated movie....who cares abt ratings today? (im 16 and ive watched a lot ) thats why illegal vcds and dvds survive and people dont understand that its because of THEM that the illegal copying industry survives....its not becuz the sellers wanna make money...

@wizrulz

what you don understand is.. theres no available method for making one time installs etc...remember, EVERY RULE IS MEANT TO BE BROKEN...for example just look at the dvd industry, people said they could watch it 5 times only and its impossible to copy movies to the comp....look at the genius who reverse-engineered the dvd player hardware and created one of the most brilliant softwares till date-DVD XCOPY..im saying he is brilliant because he found a solution when none was available. most people say they dont like illegal stuff and things like that...just go to their homes and check....their windoze xp will be registered to CRaCkeRZZZZ or something like that...

what people dont realize that reverse-engineering is an ART...which should be appreciated like programming and painting and music....it takes a programmer several days to write something...but as most people think, it does not take a cracker 5 minutes or so to break the protection....its a long process where the cracker gains knowledge..lots of it.. remember, when this noobie cracker grows up and becomes a programmer himself, he will write better software, careful not to commit the mistakes his previous generation of programmers made...

[hsksattish]

The developers must understand that what was worth 30$ is not worth Rs1500.

[nimis]

buy pirated games and lose ur peace of mind.....

[wizrulz]

Originally Posted by nimis

buy pirated games and lose ur peace of mind.....

R u kidding? nearly every perosn having computer and who is gamer will have pirated game. So ur saying that those have lost their peace(piece ) of mind? See most of pirated stuff givs u peace of mind......i say this when i have chatted with most of my frnds over this topic.......see most pirated games does not need to pop in th cd for game play where as Og stuff needs it....Also Og stuff once cd is scratched its gone along with the money we have put in..... so its other way arnd.....mostly everybody will agree this.....

@ dheeraj kumar
i know that breaking rule is fun to most of us until we r not caugt in it... . But what i suggested is possible solution along with pricing the stuff reasonably....I guess but until and unless there is some great s/w written to stop burning of cds illagaly, it is impossible to stop piracy as even if the stuff is priced for 150 most will still go for pirated one as one can burn it for 10 cd and free form frnd pc . Reverse engg should be used to remove defects and errors from existing s/w and not break it to be used illegally......same way as hacking and ethical hacking....two sides of same coin...isnt it

[rajas700]

The games in are market sold at high price even though they fetch less worth of it.By having these much pirated copy's the game's company and software comapny have earn more and being the richest person in the world if not those pirated stuff think of their position.???Moreover i have heared that many company's get their income through pirated stuff selling also.(It mean they get their income in both the way's).For these what are u going to say???????????

componies should lower the prices of Gmaes, $50 or Rs 3000 is insane

i remembar i once wrote an article about piracy, it can be solved if the prices are fixed on the basis of value not currency

$50 in U.S.A might not be a lot for a game, but Rs 3000 for a game in India is a lot

i wish what bill gates said comes true in 10 years, that all the distribution of softwares will be done via Internet & CD/DVD/BD will be obsalete, it will save a lot of packaging cost for the componies

I buy pirated games & softwars, but one thing, there is no assurence that it will work, Valve did a good job of provding Half life 2 via steam, but it also got it's drawback, specially a high speed internet connection even during installation, so piracy is the best option for india in such case, besides piracy is required for a Software to be popular to some extant

[neerajkumar_4]

hey do u guys know even big companies like HCL, HP give pirated versions of XP....... i mean that they install Win. XP in multiple systems using 1 CD..... that piracy!!
ok i heard this from a friend of mine.......
so not kinda sure abt this!!

[speedyguy]

one thing n all.....softwares n games need to reduce thier prices to avoid piracy...or else ppl will be happy wit piracy.

cheers

[QwertyManiac]

Originally Posted by neerajkumar_4

hey do u guys know even big companies like HCL, HP give pirated versions of XP....... i mean that they install Win. XP in multiple systems using 1 CD..... that piracy!!
ok i heard this from a friend of mine.......
so not kinda sure abt this!!

Yes they do but that is a Volume License Key and is thus valid

[neerajkumar_4]

ya i the case of games n software the prices r DAM high .......... i wish if they reduce them ........if they do so there will b millions of gamers who buy legal versions not illegal ...........i want to b one of them

[con_tester]

I allready said that....

today if 10 people buy a original, atleast 50 buys pirated...
If they reduce price I think not all but 30 will also buy original...
We all want official supprt.
Dont we...

[speedyguy]

agreed on that...
more than us twill be d companies who gain from it by reducing prices....just imagine today ppl (in india atleast), 10 copies og buyers n 100 copies pirated buyers....so its kinda rs. 10000 companes benifit (considering rs. 1000 per game) n rs. 5000 piracy (considering rs. 50 / game)....

now, if the same game is available for even rs. 200 (original)...then if not 100, atleast 50 ppl will go for it (atleast i will rush for it)....so for company its rs. 15000 (more than earlier) n for piracy twill be...hmm! well really cant say its india....but whud be reduced certainly....

cheers

[abhasbajpai]

the main thing is pricising statregy of us co in india
when Mc donald can sell a burger (and other things) at rs 20 in india which they sell at say$ 2 to 3 in us.
why cant sw co have same pricing with indian context.
give the sw priced for india in india and nt for us
this is the same thing which goes making mc donalds, pizza huts and other a instent hit in india