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View Poll Results: Todays Education Gives Importance to What ?
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Todays Education - Does it give importance to creation of

Youths as mere Money-making Machines

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Youths with Sound Human Values and Qualities

My view point is that of the first reason because it's all what students at end care about and would sacrifice anything for it (friends, parents, etc)
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it's both.

In school they focus more on Humanity related issues & then start tending towards a more money-oriented focus.

I think the latter may be because as kids nowadays get older, they [the kids] get more focused on the money, and the educators have picked up on this and have latched onto it as way to get the Kids' attention in school.
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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please give more views and opinions as i have to write a essay
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When you have to pay Rs. 30,00,000+ for an M.B.B.S. seat the answer to your question is only too obvious. I dread to imagine the type of doctors that are going to come out in the next 10 to 20 years.
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When you have to pay Rs. 30,00,000+ for an M.B.B.S. seat the answer to your question is only too obvious. I dread to imagine the type of doctors that are going to come out in the next 10 to 20 years.
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They educate us about human values while asking lots of money for doing the same. Look at the irony.
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Well, Indian Education has been giving importance to examinations.
You'll have to be good in those mere 3 hours if you want to prove yourself, which isn't fair. Crammers get good marks.......WTF

^^ This may be a bit offtopic.
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Well, Indian Education has been giving importance to examinations.
You'll have to be good in those mere 3 hours if you want to prove yourself, which isn't fair. Crammers get good marks.......WTF
Not so. In boards as well as higher studies like engineering, internal assessment is also done and practicals are there.
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Not so. In boards as well as higher studies like engineering, internal assessment is also done and practicals are there.
Well, if we just talk about the Boards, schools will give full marks in the internal assessment just like that. They may get into trouble if CBSE questions them on the criteria, CBSE rarely does.

And in Practicals, we easily come to know that what the other guy is doing....
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^^Forum rules don't allow the threads to be hijacked,so can't reply any more. But my opinion differs.
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Todays Education - Does it give importance to creation of

Youths as mere Money-making Machines

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Youths with Sound Human Values and Qualities

My view point is that of the first reason because it's all what students at end care about and would sacrifice anything for it (friends, parents, etc)
Well, its not the fault of the Education System....

Actually, today's youth has realized that if they want to do anything in this materialistic world, they need to get money and they want to do this in any way they want.

But to prevent this, we do have Counseling so that we don't go to the wrong path......
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its actually money-TAKING the sculs just wanna take money, nuthing else
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I feel they test the memory and not the knowledge
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Yeah, I completely agree......I also feel the same.
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a last wave of opinions and views. as on monday i have to deliver it. thank u so far
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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None of the two.

Th current education system gives importance to making children losers.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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+infinity to pathik.

Today's education system focuses more on absolutely nothing. Students learn age-old concepts and dont have a choice to learn what they want to, rather, they are forced to read what is taught.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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From school to college, I've met so many people, who are excellent artists, painters, orators, writers, sportsmen, etc. But they all took science or commerce to later become engineers, doctors, managers etc. Not one guy looked at arts or sports as an option.

Is the education system alone to blame which gives no councelling on the students' skills, or is there some other factor too, like the mindset of the society, which largely thinks sports and arts can't be professional options?

And talking about sports, can we really blame these guys for not taking it seriously? Other than cricket, where do you see sportsmen with lots of money?

I know the education system sucks bad here, but then, the system is just a byproduct of the society at large. (Just my views.)
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Not everyone is good in every field. Some are good in One field , while others are masters in other. To bring out these qualities out of children and to work on it so that it can blossom, is what education should do.Today's education(and the perspective of society) however forces children to go down a 'safe' path, mostly killing their good qualities. Some survive it, some equally talented however crumbles under it.
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I voted on none!I studied quadratic equations in school. I never used them in real life! In fact my parents always complained that that I kept on reading comics and other books all the time, today they are the things I credit for my web content writing career.
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Anyways the one message that REALLY needs to be sent across to all the students doing their school/college is that they should get some practical knowledge. Real World Practical knowledge, I think it's pretty self explanatory and from my personal experience after passing out from school/college and working a good paying job all I know is that college alone won't do anything for you.

Sorry for being out of topic but for teaching us Human Values and Qualities we usually have things like parents, family and society.

And money making should be taught, we evolved from killing each other for food to the the barter system to the currency system, so if we want to stay civilized everyone should be taught how to make money efficiently or else people can always go back to stealing and murdering.
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^ But there are better ways to make money than being educated and then working like mindless drones.

BTW, You know what, the only thing common between me and my 50 yr old principal is prolly that we studied the same syllabus.
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I just hate the method of today's education. Education is important but today it is more like a business to make money & to teach how to make money. A degree matters even if the practical knowledge doesn't. My roommate is the worst MBA I have ever seen...another friend of mine working in Mumbai was telling me that he is jealous of me cos I enjoyed my life so far & am still enjoying while he is just following Home-Office-Home routine...yaar, aisi studies ka kya fayda....

It takes courage to go against everyone & do something which u can do, something different, something unconventional. There are so many MBA, IITins, MBBS but how many are happy with there job....
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^^ It takes courage, yes, mainly because of the uncertainty the future holds in our life, if we walk on the road less travelled, rather than join the neverending journey on the highway. And thats why most people dont do it. Even I want to do something else, I want to write, but I cant. The only thing I can write now is not what I want to write, but what I am forced to write - C, C#, ASM, you get the point. This is the third year of my Computer Science and Engineering, and this is the third year I've regretted the decisions I've taken since class nine.
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Well the topic must be

Indian Education Gives Importance to What ?

as my frnds in US and denmark they are studying

FLASH , 3DSMAX in school in class 7 and 8

and in those class we were thought POWERPOINT and WORD

offtopic: Education is free for every children in US till 12th
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Nowadays its going to nothing. education has completely become money related. Its only a matter of getting a job with good salary. This is what education is all about today.
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Nowadays its going to nothing. education has completely become money related. Its only a matter of getting a job with good salary. This is what education is all about today.
true true true......it should better be called educashion.....
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^ But there are better ways to make money than being educated and then working like mindless drones.

BTW, You know what, the only thing common between me and my 50 yr old principal is prolly that we studied the same syllabus.
Better ... Yes ... Millions ... No ...
Sure you can do something else and earn money or whatever else you want to do, but exactly how many people in India can do that ?

And you are what you want to be ... as simple as that. If you are working like a mindless drone then it's your fault, don't blame your job. You can ALWAYS find a better job if you have the skills. If I ever find my job to be a deadend/boring/pointless I would resign the very same day and never come to the office.

People need to make a plan, how are they planning to shape their life and future.
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is it the education system or the parents? Indian education system is just fine in cities.. what about villages? Basic education is the most important thing that every child should get. Times have changed.. now a days parents decide what his child will become. a Software engineer or a Doctor or a IITan or MBA!! or what not.. Its not fair to blame the education system for parents greeds.
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And you are what you want to be ... as simple as that. If you are working like a mindless drone then it's your fault, don't blame your job. You can ALWAYS find a better job if you have the skills. If I ever find my job to be a deadend/boring/pointless I would resign the very same day and never come to the office.

People need to make a plan, how are they planning to shape their life and future.
Isn't that a problem that the education system doesn't deal with at all in India? I mean, you will find a lot of people, who just took up a particular field of study, just because they had absolutely no clue what they were getting into, which in turn was because the education system didn't equip them with the right knowledge about where they could utilise their talents the best. The thing is, people are not taught to plan anything. It is just because of this reason why loads of people are opting for the IT industry to end up being frustrated later. People are not taught or counseled where they can excel. It is just rote learning and a high emphasis on marks at most levels of education. I can't think of many other reason why people do become drones.

I can give one example. There is this guy who was in my class when I was studying electrical engineering. This guy is an awesome speaker. Give him a topic and he will blow everyone away with his oratory skills. He is 2 years senior to me and he got a year drop for the third time when I passed to the fourth year. I have completed my course and he is yet to complete. I have asked him why he took electrical engineering, and he always changes the topic. Perhaps he doesn't want to speak about it. But clearly, engineering is not meant for him. He could've been an ace reporter/journalist/writer (just speculating), but he is in the wrong place. He's stuck with engineering. The reasons I could think of are these
1. Perhaps his parents and family pressurized him
2. Perhaps he followed his friends and took engineering (the everyone-else-is-doing-it syndrome)
3. Perhaps he thought he could earn more as an engineer/being an engineer is cool

If the education system included comprehensive counseling provided to students, then any student would not have made foolhardy decisions as I said in points 2 and 3 above.

We were taught Fourier and Laplace transformations in our course. I still am having a hard time figuring out why exactly the transformations are needed. I was just taught: do it because that's how you should solve it in the exam. The teachers never explained what happens when you shift a value from the time domain to the frequency domain, and not many even know what these domains are. Why? Coz they only need to know how to solve the problem to get 10/10. And that's exactly what the teachers will teach, each time laced with threats like how you won't be able to get a good job if you score low marks.
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