IPL - Indian Problem League???

[damnthenet]

The IPL has started............ and seems to be not worth the salt. Look what one placard in the very first match said........"I am here to watch the girls dancing".
It is not good for Cricket as TEST cricket is what is goin to test cricketing skills........
It is not any real kind of competion b/w the cities as potrayed by BCCI.....(Dinesh karthick is not playing for Chennai.......so is Bajji for Punjab and they are not alone...)
So is IPL only to fetch money for the Rich BCCI??????

[m-jeri]

have u heard of things like NBA or English or Spanish premier Leagu..the Liga....or NFL.... or anythings like that..A player doesnt need to be from a city to play in any team....

yeas if i have money even i can host a team....so yeas u r rich it will help...

this is the most absurd thing fro fight everyone knows IPL is a abt Glamour+glitz+Sports....deal with it...

If not watch ODI..TEST..or ICL......

Happy?????

[iMav]

@thread starters: ur fundamentals of IPL and basis of comparisons are totally wrong.

1. u cannot compare IPL and Test cricket, yes u can compare Ranji and IPL, becasue they are 2 tournaments, where as test cricket is a format and IPL is a tournament

2. IPL was started as a competition to ICL and if u forgot that ICL got quite a lot of media attention and BCCI had to get the lost sponsors and viewers back, how do u do that by starting a competition with a lot of promotion and add glamor to it. if u want test cricket please go watch ranji matches sit for 3 whole days and wait for the match to end in a draw

3. a lot of people say that IPL is all glamor no cricket blah blah blue sheep, we all know the kind of viewership that ranji trophy gets also when ur starting something like a competition to compete with some 1 (ICL) u need to hype and publicise it.

4. the concept of T20 was started to entertain people because test is boring and one day too became routine and boring, when 1 days started every1 said that it will be harmful to the game blah blah and well lets just say one days have outperformed test, the same kind of stupid lame comments are said about T20 inspite the fact that after a boring world cup, the T20 world cup was more fun exciting exhilarating and fresh to watch

and ur statement that bhajji plays for bombay so its not state competition let me tell u about a game called football, in football they have a club format where players are sold and bought and they play for the club that buys them wayne rooney was born in liverpool, he debuted with everton and now plays for man u, the EPL and alike is what the IPL is based on.

so get ur fundamentals of IPL and basis of comparisons right

[prem4u]

it is match b/w clubs....clubs buy and sell players...
Match is b/w clubs for honour ....
and money game ....

[damnthenet]

Yes........... players r ready to leave international cricket for this IPL.............. It is not good for international cricket, I mean.

And my anguish is against BCCI............. they will do whatever they want to make money.........But others (ICL) should sit and watch...lol. they sh'd not do anything.
They will cease pensions for their only world cup winning captain (Kapil).
And look what this IPL is doing to DOMESTIC CRICKET!!!!!!!!

I bet............ 56 matches will be boring in T20 too......... Lets see what happens in the middle......
The ticket sales is at low now itself...

[Stuge]

Man ,this form of cricket is for entertainment .20-20 can make cricket popular in countries which doesn't even come in international arena .

Its all about money honey

[m-jeri]

@DAMNTHENET.....

damn men..u ignorant.....wat u say is totally wrong...IPL is a shobiz style of cricket..and it wont clash with any international tourneys...get ur facts staright....

DOMESTIC Cricket..how many ranji matches u watch live???how many local city cups u saw????

IPL IS BOOMIN DOmestic cricket..state players are given a chance to show their mettle..

in this thread u the only one....learn from it...

BCCI ICC FIFA FIA NASCAR WRC...all Here to make money....none for social service...

[iMav]

Originally Posted by damnthenet

They will cease pensions for their only world cup winning captain (Kapil).
And look what this IPL is doing to DOMESTIC CRICKET!!!!!!!!

bos ur facts are wrong man there is no point arguing with some 1 who is incorrect on facts and makes ridiculous statements

[m-jeri]

..................LOL.....then again...LOL..........

fight...this is like taking candy from a kid....

[confused!!]

Originally Posted by damnthenet

And look what this IPL is doing to DOMESTIC CRICKET!!!!!!!!

IPL is great for domestic players...most of the players would have never got a chance to play in this kind of environment...

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by damnthenet

The IPL has started............ and seems to be not worth the salt. Look what one placard in the very first match said........"I am here to watch the girls dancing".
It is not good for Cricket as TEST cricket is what is goin to test cricketing skills........
It is not any real kind of competion b/w the cities as potrayed by BCCI.....(Dinesh karthick is not playing for Chennai.......so is Bajji for Punjab and they are not alone...)
So is IPL only to fetch money for the Rich BCCI??????

Only you have problem.We are enjoying it.Better than those saas bahu serials.

[confused!!]

Probably he is a discarded Ranji player who did'nt get selected for IPL

[moshel]

who are we to care for cricket? why should we care for cricket? isnt the BCCI for that?

cricket, be it test, one day or T20 is for entertainment, with changing times people dont watch test match too much as it goes on and on for 5 days, now even one days are like "too much time spent" thing (u need to take a day off from work if u wish to see the match) as a whole day is spent. compare that to T20, just 4 hours, and we have the result. i come home from work by about 7:45 PM. and @ 8 PM the IPL match start, isnt that just great!

cricket is not dying by T20, its just that T20 is making cricket more popular.

u knw IPL is win win win win situation for all.

BCCI: all the mooooooolah
Senior players: the moooolah
Junior players: the mooolah+a chance to play alongside senior players (just remember from that day, an indian not so known player took a wicket and ricky ponting came running and gave him a hug (even the commentators commented on that).
SET max: advertising -> the mooolah
advertisers: more viewership -> more sales -> more moooolah
ppl who bought these teams: Lighter pockets + chances of lot of moolah to be earned in future.
public: full-to EnTeRtAInMeNt!!!!! + empty pockets

CRICKET???? more exposure in countries where cricket is not so famous.

so who lost?

[utsav]

Icl sucked. I never watched even one match completely of icl. Ipl has done it in more pro way with more pro players. its fun to watch two australians playing against each other. Guess what will happen when they all return back home "ponting will say ,abey tune ball bahut swing karayi ,main 0 pe out ho gaya. Tereko main australian team se do mahine ki chutti kara dunga".

[rohan]

t20 is an awesome format.. and follows greatly with the 4hour-1meal-2drinks type of sports. It is entertaining and fast paced, something i really miss in Test Matches and has run rates way over 6, which i miss in ODIs. This also gives us a chance to discover new talent.

The only thing i don't like is the cheerleaders.. i mean.. they just aren't necessary. I don't wanna watch half-naked, anorexic, slutty chicks dancing. If i want to.. i can watch full-naked anorexic slutty chicks dancing. IPL should seriously stop this.

[confused]

i dont understand what the problem really is?


anyway, i enjoy watching test cricket, but t20 is good too.
and ipl seems to have brought the best [read big-hitting] out of many players ....

and yes IPL = Indian Paisa League !!!

Originally Posted by rohan

If i want to.. i can watch full-naked anorexic slutty chicks dancing.

[sam9s]

Originally Posted by madjeri

have u heard of things like NBA or English or Spanish premier Leagu..the Liga....or NFL.... or anythings like that..A player doesnt need to be from a city to play in any team....

yeas if i have money even i can host a team....so yeas u r rich it will help...

this is the most absurd thing fro fight everyone knows IPL is a abt Glamour+glitz+Sports....deal with it...

If not watch ODI..TEST..or ICL......

Happy?????

yea you r correct in getting the IPL concept, but somehow I didnt enjoy this hooking with cricket (may be thats just me). See I am a hardcore cricket fan, and i am not even against 20-20 but this IPL thing has gone too far. It works for soccer n basketball but somehow cricket was different and didnt fit in this money game. But as I said maybe thats just me........who knows in a couple of years IPL would be as common as Premier leagues.......

[legolas]

Everything had to start somewhere. Some people are just naive to adapt to change and others less susceptible.

Don't worry, @Madjeri, they will get there eventually!! I accept what you had to say.

[m-jeri]

@sAM......

its just time...leagues are just the next step of sporting...every sports have to eveolve....basketball,soccer,baseball,rugby,footba ll...etc became so popular because of things like this...


@EVERYONE HERE.....

In Prem leagues like this...you could even see a friend of yours playing..who knows....

[damnthenet]

See.............you ppl say its the greatest form of cricket.
Ya.......its nice to watch, I agree....
But look....... the BCCI is overdoing it... to the extent of making it boring.
20 or 25 matches would be great, but see... 56 matches - who will watch them all.

I dont know how the fever has catched up in other areas, but in Chennai the ticket sales is pretty low even for the first match (Inspite of the so called Chennai team doing well in their first match). The tickets would have got over before a few days itself in Chennai, had it been an one day match. See, how the most entertainig form of cricket has lost charm among fanatic people.

This is what my point is... The idea of T20, IPL may be good... But definitely the IPL is overdone to the point of making it boring...

[m-jeri]

:yawn:..... u on weed?????

you have extended everything upto a point tht you become boring to all of the posters in this thread...

anyways u r ignorant u proved that....

i cant understand how 56 days of cheerleader...color..music...a festival of cricket...could be boring..you should see more TV and get out of home once in a while...i personally couldnt go to any matches upto now...coz i am nt in india now..but when i come back..definitely i be cheering for knight riders...my team...very soon...

whatever may be u need to chk urself again....and yes again U R BORING

[damnthenet]

Originally Posted by madjeri

i cant understand how 56 days of cheerleader...color..music...a festival of cricket...could be boring..

You yourself watch and see.................... whats happening in the middle............................................ ...................................

[m-jeri]

god i cant describe how ignorant u are.....it seems all gave up on u..heheheh

until others come me too out..its like talking to a goat....always wondered wat tht be like...now i know...

[damnthenet]

ok..... genius 'MAD'JERI... you are most welcome.......
The caption I have put actually came in Headlines Today........and they are IGNORANT TOO........
Some great journalists like Makarand Waingankar and sports men like Arjuna Rantunga who have spoken negatively on IPL and BCCI organization are also ignorant........
And all hail 'Mad'jeri who is filled with all the knowledge in this world
Unfortunately this 'MAD'JERI does not know only to respect others' views.........LOL!!!!

Originally Posted by moshel

who are we to care for cricket? why should we care for cricket? isnt the BCCI for that?

Yes..... you are right Moshel...........
The BCCI should care for Cricket in India and unfortunately they are not doing it...... Thats my anguish...

[m-jeri]

@damn...

thnk you man..its ok for someone from ur position to applaud someone from my posture..

btw..the two ppl that u quoted are just like u in medai and sports world..just looking to get into headlines...and luckily with ppl like u they are all set...

LOL...kiddo get a life...yeas i am a genius....

and i dont think ranatunga got the mettle to play in any sports i think he should stay shut in his mansion..thats it...

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by damnthenet

See.............you ppl say its the greatest form of cricket.
Ya.......its nice to watch, I agree....
But look....... the BCCI is overdoing it... to the extent of making it boring.
20 or 25 matches would be great, but see... 56 matches - who will watch them all.

I dont know how the fever has catched up in other areas, but in Chennai the ticket sales is pretty low even for the first match (Inspite of the so called Chennai team doing well in their first match). The tickets would have got over before a few days itself in Chennai, had it been an one day match. See, how the most entertainig form of cricket has lost charm among fanatic people.

This is what my point is... The idea of T20, IPL may be good... But definitely the IPL is overdone to the point of making it boring...

I didnt agree with your first post of this thread and still i dont agree with whatever you said that T20 will be a threat to test cricket.And its not cities vs cities in IPL.If you have watched any IPL matches it is city vs city.Yesterday in hyderabaad no body was applauding Sehwag's 50 just becoz he scored against their home team Hyderabaad.
In a match against Rajasthan Royals Sreesanth was saying some trash words to Kamran Akmal(Rajasthan Royals player) and crowd was booing against Sreesanth.How often do you see these things?

But i agree with this post of yours.Thats its too much cricket.59 matches in 44 days is too much.And already tickets sale in Mohali is low.And i dont think this will help indian domestic cricket.How can a T20 competition help build a test match or a ODI player?BCCI is full of jokers everyone knows that.All this development of domestic cricket etc etc is just plain BS.They are doing it just to compete with ICL.Where were they before ICL came?What were they doing for indian domestic cricket before ICL came?

I didnt like auction of players which BCCI did.

Halwai ki dukaan ke aage koi dusra halwai dukaan khoelga toh tension toh hogi hi.

[m-jeri]

@gaurav....u wrong there buddy....

Yeas ICL is the sole reason why IPL came but ICL was made to develop domestic cricket so in a sense IPL also does wat its meant to be done..lots of local players are getting to play in a REAL team..they are also getting medai attention...fame..advertisements..its a big thing....

As all only a few gain...and we are not in it...

and abt auction..if not this..do u think the players will play for charity????
its a profession for them....

yeas they are sayin Shity arguments..but tht doesnt mean they are wrong are they???

and yeas all the new things we are seeing are signs of it...

just one thing for all...
@....

"Progress is a slow process the hell were they not talking abt IPL"

[dreamcatcher]

i disagree....ipl is still new and will take some time for peaple to catch up..chennai..for that matter..doesnt have many local stars there..most of them have been bought by the other teams..as a result the craze is a little low..take for example kolkata..so big is the craze for DADA that one request from him was enough to fill the whole stadium to the brim...

mumbai had an awresum reception and even delhi..the match against kolkata at chennai will be a sellout..it depends on the quality of matches...now that chennai has gained momentum,it will surely earn more fans..

[damnthenet]

Originally Posted by gaurav_indian

Thats its too much cricket.59 matches in 44 days is too much.And already tickets sale in Mohali is low.And i dont think this will help indian domestic cricket.How can a T20 competition help build a test match or a ODI player?BCCI is full of jokers everyone knows that.All this development of domestic cricket etc etc is just plain BS.They are doing it just to compete with ICL.Where were they before ICL came?What were they doing for indian domestic cricket before ICL came?
I didnt like auction of players which BCCI did.

This is what i actually intended to tell.... Sorry if I had potrayed something else in my first post....
And regarding the concept of City Vs City, I feel that the concept would have been more meaningful had they restricted the local players to play for their city.......
Think what Dinesh Karthick's family would cheer for if Chennai and Delhi clashes!!!

Originally Posted by utsav

Icl sucked. I never watched even one match completely of icl. Ipl has done it in more pro way with more pro players. its fun to watch two australians playing against each other. Guess what will happen when they all return back home "ponting will say ,abey tune ball bahut swing karayi ,main 0 pe out ho gaya. Tereko main australian team se do mahine ki chutti kara dunga".

ICL was the one whick actually started on the idea of league in Cricket.......... I also know that IPL is a hit than ICL........
This is what I feel is wrong.... We dont give people the credit they deserve....... (Kapil and other ICL fellows thrown out by BCCI)...
Why is BCCI banning players joining ICL from... So this means great cricketers playing for ICL will never play for India......!!!!!!!!!! Where is the right to equality?????

Originally Posted by rohan

t20 is an awesome format.. and follows greatly with the 4hour-1meal-2drinks type of sports. It is entertaining and fast paced, something i really miss in Test Matches and has run rates way over 6, which i miss in ODIs. This also gives us a chance to discover new talent.

The only thing i don't like is the cheerleaders.. i mean.. they just aren't necessary. I don't wanna watch half-naked, anorexic, slutty chicks dancing. If i want to.. i can watch full-naked anorexic slutty chicks dancing. IPL should seriously stop this.

True........ When a country hosts an intenational tournament, they authorities should potray that country's culture.
So, during the inaguration of T20, there could have been Catnatic Musicians performing and barathanatiyam dancers doing their part......
Instead we had all the western influence showcased........ BCCI perhaps wanted to control only cricket in India!

[rohan]

what I don't understand about damnthenet is that he finds the 56 4 hour matches boring.. but is ready to watch the slower, 35 day Test Matches [best of 7 series] out of which each lasts for almost 2.5 days [half a day everyday].

and what do u mean by "BCCI perhaps wanted to control only cricket in India!". that is their job. and seriously.. 'barathanatiyam dancers'??? that makes me go LMAO. I don't have a problem with the cheerleaders because of our 'tradition' and 'culture' per se.. our conformance to these norms is too fundamentalistic. I simply think it's not necessary...