South Indian Regional Movies/Kollywood Vs Bollywood

[drgrudge]

There has been a lot of bashing on Kollywood/Mollywood/Tollywood movies here.

I think, quality wise or the movie on the whole is in the same level as Bollywood. Atleast Tamil movies. JYFI, I watch Hindi and Tamil movies. I'm going to keep my arguement to Tamil (Kollywood) and Bollywood only.


Some myths and the reality

Quality is bad
Bad quality my foot. From what I seen last year, "quality" wise, there were equal amount of Hindi and Tamil movies. You call movies like Om Shanti Om, Welcome and Priyadarshan movies quality?

Sure, I loved movies like Lage Raho Munnabhai and Taare Zameen Par (better than the nest Tami movies during that period) but hardly more than 8% of the bollywood movies are good enough to watch.

I'm not naming any Tamil movies - but will do if anyone wants.



Low Budget
True, because the market is small than that of Bollyood movies.

Sivaji, tamil movie by the way, is the most expensive movie ever to hit in India when it was released. The budget was over 75 crores. They made over 100 crores from the movie.

I always fell budget should be a constrain to make quality movies. Has anyone here seen 12 Angry Men? They made that on a shoe string budget but it's the best movie ever made. Likewise I can list many low budget Hollywood ovies that are very good.


Screws Physics
True. I also hate to watch such things.

Such movies is for rural population. I don't think such flick even run in Chennai. They still make such movies because people see them. Remember that not all people don't live in cities, don't have internet connection and can't understand English to watch Hollywood flicks.

Watch Main Hoon Naa, SRK chased a Scorpio on a rickshaw.

Talking about physics, in Matrix, Reeves dodged bullets, pulled a chopper and "flew". Want me to list where physics is screwed?



So people, don't tell that Bollywood is better than Kollywood/regional movies. IMO, they're in the same sh!t.



JYFI, I've over 850 GB of multimedia data. I've access to over 1.2 TB of multimedia data. You name any Hollywood movie, I would've watched it.

[The_Devil_Himself]

both sucks,hollywood rules!

I noticed some tamil movies dubbed in Hindi on some channel recnetly and I noticed the storylines are almost the same,the same dancing around trees and all that sh!t.


@grudge:BTW the 'stunts' in Matrix are explained as to how they are possible and even neo can't match our raknikanth and mithun da,can they?lol.

[praka123]

tamil,kannda(sandalwood),telgu industries are churning out movies which is meant to be seen by a daily wage worker to relax,not the serious ones that are produced in hollywood.

while bollywood movies as a matter of fact are viewed by young people who are in schools,colleges.

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by The_Devil_Himself

@grudge:BTW the 'stunts' in Matrix are explained as to how they are possible and even neo can't match our raknikanth and mithun da,can they?lol.

Vijaykant is the ultimate stunt man. There's is this scene where a bullet is shot at him, but it rebounds and kills the man who shot him. I was like WTF for 2 days when I saw that.


I just took the example of Matrix. You don't want me to list movies which screws physics and not explained.


You can't tell Regional movies sucks because there's no logic.

[praka123]

^weakest tamil actor I saw was mgr.he is such a ...he needs dupes for every single actions

vijaykanth is really difficult to digest for me.I have seen his films starting from capt.prabhakar.also personally dont prefer his films.

Infact those films which are made for the rasikar's.what karunanidhi should do now is ban fanclubs in TN.that definitely helps.
I have seen a mad fight between rasikar mandram people in Coimbatore shanti(complex) theatre where the release of vijay film was going on-forgot the name of that film.

both TN and telegu,ban those fanclubs.infact in orkut furious fight is going on between chiranjivi fans and some shekhar fans(?) what is this?
people should be made understand that films are not real life;it is reel life.

[drgrudge]

^^
I don't think banning any fan clubs is a good idea. I like Chiranjivi fan club. They donate blood, run schools, do social work and things. Chiranjivi infact got award from the President for such work. I like Chiranjivi, his fanclubs but I hate his movies. I don't mind his movies releasing every week as well.

Slowly these fan clubs are doing good things instead of doing milk abisekam (many are straving in streets), burning camphor in hands and indulging in anti social activities.


By the way, Vijaykant has some good movies like - Ramana, Vanathaipolae, Chinna Gounter, etc.. I'm sure why he want to do bad movies.

[praka123]

^vanathepole is a real good movie.
I am a Vijay movies fan,pakka time pass
also likes kamalhaasan,Arjun Sarga(Mudhalvan is a gr8 film),

most hated actor by me goes to:

Chilambarasan
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[jithudigitised]

well i like rajnikant and vijay ..whatever u sayy...whatever they they doo in the movies....its a worth watching with the friends...

movies are made for enjoying...sometimes majority will like that..but sometimes don't ..its just movies...

this is same for both tollywod or bollywood or hollywood..

well i liked the soorya movie kakka kakka very much...its a enjoyable movie.....

also i have seen sivaji 5 times ...(Only with my friends..) coz we had a great time watching the fim...

[viswanadh]

Originally Posted by drgrudge

Vijaykant is the ultimate stunt man. There's is this scene where a bullet is shot at him, but it rebounds and kills the man who shot him. I was like WTF for 2 days when I saw that.


I just took the example of Matrix. You don't want me to list movies which screws physics and not explained.


You can't tell Regional movies sucks because there's no logic.

You will be far more surprised after you see stunts of Balakrishna aka Balayya (Telugu Hero) Search for "Balayya" in Youtube (link). Don't forget to checkout other related videos too. I bet you will have a lot of fun

Originally Posted by praka123

both TN and telegu,ban those fanclubs.infact in orkut furious fight is going on between chiranjivi fans and some shekhar fans(?) what is this?
people should be made understand that films are not real life;it is reel life.

It's between Chiranjeevi fans & Balakrishna Fans (He is a Chowdary and most of their fans defaming Chiranjeevi are pure caste fanatics)

[PCWORM]

Originally Posted by The_Devil_Himself

both sucks,hollywood rules!

I noticed some tamil movies dubbed in Hindi on some channel recnetly and I noticed the storylines are almost the same,the same dancing around trees and all that sh!t.


@grudge:BTW the 'stunts' in Matrix are explained as to how they are possible and even neo can't match our raknikanth and mithun da,can they?lol.

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[ArZuNeOs]

nice to hear the grudge the pple have against each other

Its welcome after all where there is good there is always bad....two sides of a coin...

What some pple like... some dont...likewise

There are all kinds of pple in the world we live in ......
For Producers,Actors,Directors & cinefield specialists ...there main goal is to make money rather than satisying pple ....Off course the two are interconnected....

That is y we have movies at these extremes

Tamil Movies:

Movies like Sivaji went on to mint money ( refer DrGrudge viewz ),but there are those who didn't like that movie....

True success in films happens when movies fulfill the interests of all caders of pple....what Filmy stars call it masala movie ( not those kind of movies )

movies like Kadhal,Kalloori , Azhagiya theeye ....are some movies which are made in shoestring budget but reaped 3 times the investment ...now when u compare with sivaji ....the % looks better

Hindi / Bollywood ( Personally stop imitating our English fellows ....we are Unique )

Similarly movies like Devdass , KANK , Mangal Pandey , Swades all flopped bcause of the same reasons ....

Swades was accepted in the rest of india zone .....while in india it didn't do well ....bcause noone was to understand the attachment for the country....better than NRIs......

Devdas & similar GLITTER movies bombed because it didn't attract the majority of the people.

While movies made on real life scenarios were ok ....the best example is PAGE 3 ....

while on one side I really appreciate Hindi Cinemas for churning movies like swades , Rang de basanti .....at the same time the Legs & Glory ( yes ....glory ) which they portray is similar to a XX movie.....here again some pple luv to watch the latter alone.....thus movies like these rocked & stars like neha dhupia were born

Malayalam

I really appreciate the fellow mallus ...they have an eye for creativity

Really appreciate Manchitrathazhu ....which was the fodder for tamil movie Chandramukhi & Hindi one Bhool Bulaiya

Also technique adapted in their story telling is really nice ...including comedies......

Will Join in later for the bashing

ADR

[phreak0ut]

I like a lot of tamil movies, but I somehow don't get to watch them when they are released. Telugu movies seems to be the worst in defying the laws of physics. Have you guys watched Aarya?? That's really too much to digest. Being a telugite myself, I simply hate lot of those cheap telugu movies. Wish I could understand malayalam so that I could get to watch the quality movies

Bollywood is a joke, never mind

[iMav]

my mom says that i can become an actor the only condition is that i need to learn a south indian language the looks part is covered even if i gain 100 pounds grow a mustache and am charcoal i can still be a lead

[dOm1naTOr]

Yup, some Kollywood heroes looks like charcoal drug addicts with no idea bout neatness. Nd its hard even for viewers to keep watching them....
And people like rajnikanth keeps breaking physics laws like stoping fast movig 1ton vehicle suddenly with his sub 100kg body without even movinf nd didnt even break sweat....

[drgrudge]

Bah! I thought there would be vivid discussions and debates. But everyone is agreeing with me! 25% of that Mumbai thread is full of south-north movies.


Maybe I should start a thread: "M. Karunadhi Vs Lallo Prasad Yadav" and then we might see some north-south movies posts.

[viswanadh]

Originally Posted by iMav

my mom says that i can become an actor the only condition is that i need to learn a south indian language the looks part is covered even if i gain 100 pounds grow a mustache and am charcoal i can still be a lead

In Telugu, you must have a grandfather in the industry to be successful in making a lot of movies as a hero irrespective of their fate These guys are spoiling the industry by making stupid masala movies

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by dOm1naTOr

Yup, some Kollywood heroes looks like charcoal drug addicts with no idea bout neatness. Nd its hard even for viewers to keep watching them....
And people like rajnikanth keeps breaking physics laws like stoping fast movig 1ton vehicle suddenly with his sub 100kg body without even movinf nd didnt even break sweat....

Isn't this racist comment? Dude, don't post about looks and all.

Rajnikant is Superstar. He get over 30-35 crores (only Jackie Chan earns more in Asia) for his stunts. One sun, one moon, one superstar.

[viswanadh]

Originally Posted by phreak0ut

I like a lot of tamil movies, but I somehow don't get to watch them when they are released. Telugu movies seems to be the worst in defying the laws of physics. Have you guys watched Aarya?? That's really too much to digest. Being a telugite myself, I simply hate lot of those cheap telugu movies. Wish I could understand malayalam so that I could get to watch the quality movies

Bollywood is a joke, never mind

A lot of that credit (defying laws of physics) goes to Mr.Balayya. I am also a Telugu but I liked Aarya very much. It's a love story with variety Cheap movies exist in every industry not only in Telugu, in Tamil and Hindi too

[dOm1naTOr]

Most of the digit guys are grown up nd know well to rate movies nd thats why they made it to digit....he he
Nd theaters are full due to many blind people who dun know what real movie is!!! they just know: movie is some show of superhuman power for some purelly human charecters without any specific reason nd the only reason they cud find is "after all he is the hero na?".
lol

[praka123]

@imav:does India got all Caucasians except south india

anywhere in India,u can find dark people more than so called white color.
I dont know about Aryan or Dravidian thing much.
Still,even in Iran,Arab we can find black people
and being black is not a -ve point unless ur a Indian.
look at will smith-how he manages!

Dont judge a person on his color,cast,creed.

Originally Posted by imav

my mom says that i can become an actor the only condition is that i need to learn a south indian language the looks part is covered even if i gain 100 pounds grow a mustache and am charcoal i can still be a lead

@imav -ur such a racist arsehole! u kid growup!

not all ppl look mat white.for eg:TN,Andhra,karnataka,kerala etc ppl are blackier .what is wrong in that

I know it is tough for u.but I am from a state where Ayitham(untouchability,"unseeability") was the norm for centuries.and myself knows how Our ancestors treated with Ayitham on SC/STs and Other people.

learn that with this type of mentalitiy u deserves a good beating from S.Indians.
grow up!u still thinks India=bombay

[dOm1naTOr]

But most of the heroes in Tamil not so hit movies has heroes with:
bloodshot eyes
haf halucinated looks like drug addicts
and maybe in that context its not important that the hero mush be that pathetic, but still such heroes are choosen.

[max_demon]

i just love tamil , telegu movies , actors and actoresses (Genelia D'souza) . i just love them , they make such good quality movies , nice sound music songs voices , nice makupe everything , imo better than any hindi movie .

[drgrudge]

Tamil Film Industry, Kollywood got the best technicians in India.

Music Direction: AR Rahman, enough said.
Cinematography: Santosh Sivan, Manikandan, PC Sriram, Rajiv Menon, KV Anand, Ravi K Chandran, Jeeva (he passed away recently), Ashok, Nirav Shah, etc...
Dance Choreography: Prabhu Deva (2 times national award for dance - one for Lakshya, not sure on the other)
Art Direction: Thota Tharani (multiple times national award winner); from Kerala but settled in Chennai



dOm1naTOr, iMAv -
Do not pass racist comments. Please don't talk abt looks.

[lywyre]

It has been a long time since I watched Tamil movies in theatres. I don't even watch them from the optical discs which come my way. I've lost my interest in (masala) movies. Infact, in the last five years, I would have watched not have more than a dozen movies in theatres, most of them in Hindi. And I regret watching Gajini, Anniyan (though I liked both of their acting), Om Shanthi Om (felt like watching filmfare award show).

Though I thoroughly enjoyed or felt worthwile watching Anbe Sivam, Rang de Basanti and Taare Zameen Par (I watched this movie on my PC, then the very next day, took my friend to the theatre). Hope such movies come very often.

[iMav]

u guys are as good as our politicians/australian cricket team when u know nothing else say the other person is a racist; look closely i said all i need to do is learn a language i look as handsome as the south actors how can i be a racist when i say that i look like those guys .... apni akal lagao dikhave pe matt jao

call me what ever u want to but not a racist

[praka123]

^njaan malyalathil randu theri parayam appam monte asukham maarikkollum.
^I just felt Malayalam is the official language of India

ontopic:just watch the remakes of tamil movies in hindi and compare


while I thoroughly enjoyed vasoolraja mbbs than the original munnabhai.

and I found the remakes of the films got funny names
in telegu shankardada mbbs(?),kannada-uppidada mbbs(upendra) LOL!

[ancientrites]

laxmikant pyarelal,shankar jaikishen,nadeem shravan Viju shah raamlaxman and ismail darbar completely beats Ar rehman.anyways teenage audience might still favour ar rehman.

yaaaaaaaaawnnn shiamak dawar and saroj khan in dance department.i did say prabhu deva and farah khan close enough

Bollywood rules and will keep ruling india.

[iMav]

Originally Posted by praka123

while I thoroughly enjoyed vasoolraja mbbs than the original munnabhai.

ya thats because u wouldnt understand half things as they are in hindi hindi is and should be the national language of india

[drgrudge]

Originally Posted by praka123

ontopic:just watch the remakes of tamil movies in hindi and compare

while I thoroughly enjoyed vasoolraja mbbs than the original munnabhai.

I saw some 30 minutes in Vasoolraja and got irritated. Munnabhai MBBS is far better movie.

Kamal and Prabhu have good chemistry but not as much as Sanjay Dutt and Arshad Warsi.

Originally Posted by ancientrites

laxmikant pyarelal,shankar jaikishen,nadeem shravan Viju shah raamlaxman and ismail darbar completely beats Ar rehman.anyways teenage audience might still favour ar rehman.

yaaaaaaaaawnnn shiamak dawar and saroj khan in dance department.i did say prabhu deva and farah khan close enough

AR Rahman rules. Even if he's not from Chennai; I would liked his music.

Strange that you didn't have any name for Cinematographers.

Originally Posted by ancientrites

Bollywood rules and will keep ruling india.

Yeah, it rules. Welcome had good box office collection than Taare Zameen Par. Welcome couldn't manage even 10 days in Chennai. TZP is a blockbuster and still running to packed houses.

We never argue that Bollywood not "rules" or something like that. Of course Bollywood make good collections than regional movies. But quality wise both are same.

[praka123]

^never will it happen Hindi as and always will be the language of labours from north india 8)