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Old 28-12-2007, 08:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is a guy stealing Tutorials from digit and other forums/websites and posting it in his site. I believe he will be member of this forum. Exact Copy Paste from the following threads ..

MKV [Demuxing , Encoding and Muxing] Tutorial By Zeshan
copied here h**p://tuts.woness.net/2007/12/20/mkv-demuxing-encoding-and-muxing-tutorial/

GigaSmilies by Gigacore/Santhosh
Copied here - h**p://tuts.woness.net/2007/12/20/gigasmilies/

Sharing desktop remotely using real VNC by meself
Copied here - h**p://tuts.woness.net/2007/12/20/sharing-desktop-remotely-using-real-vnc/
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Old 28-12-2007, 08:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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this is stealing (
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Old 28-12-2007, 08:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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he doesn't even have a Contact Me page on his site , guess i'm gonna just post a comment on hig blog (which probably noone wil read).
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forget it , just a small issue naa, some silly guy doing something
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^ huh... he is not a silly guy doing something... he is a crappy guy copying other's contents and posting it in his blog with giving a single credit.
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with"out" giving a single credit.
iam i right
btw: i beleive he's a member of d forum
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Old 29-12-2007, 05:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ATTENTION!!! Palagrism
just to rectify...ur spelt 'palagrism' wrong. its supposed to be "Plagiarism".
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I have posted there on the blog..and mentioned the original source.
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he is hosted with http://kwix-host.com/html/ a free hosting service complain and take his account down

But personally I really dislike the idea of this Dont copy my stuff as you are showing the tutorial free, then whats the problem if some one copying it ?? what is your goal to post the tutorial ?? So that more and more people can learn the stuff... its information which needs to be distributed !!! thats the only goal, which one should follow...

however this is my own thoughts, and you have right to disagree with me
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But personally I really dislike the idea of this Dont copy my stuff as you are showing the tutorial free, then whats the problem if some one copying it ?? what is your goal to post the tutorial ?? So that more and more people can learn the stuff... its information which needs to be distributed !!! thats the only goal, which one should follow...
a point to be noted but choto after all it is his The creaters Hardwork
we are not asking money for viewing our hardworked(like Apple Micro ) tutorial but a small Rep or credit
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now that depends from person to person is it????. some give the credit , some dont , thats all.....

its like the forum members :some thank for solving the problems , some dont.

just get over it, by the way , it has become a sort of trend to put "dont copy " message .

i think its just like DRM.
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Old 29-12-2007, 09:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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just give the credit to the original author,and provide some kind of link or something.
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Old 29-12-2007, 09:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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he is hosted with http://kwix-host.com/html/ a free hosting service complain and take his account down

But personally I really dislike the idea of this Dont copy my stuff as you are showing the tutorial free, then whats the problem if some one copying it ?? what is your goal to post the tutorial ?? So that more and more people can learn the stuff... its information which needs to be distributed !!! thats the only goal, which one should follow...

however this is my own thoughts, and you have right to disagree with me
well choto .. im not saying donot copy my stuff.. Juts give credit for it thats all... The tutorial which I wrote on VNC is posted only here in digit forum. I havent even added it to my own blog..

All we need is a link back to the original webpage..
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over internet... u cant expect these things.. i am not with these copying thing stuff... but this internet and we all share info...

hope u get my point.
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correctly said mate, you can expect such things in net.
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Actually i want to know what serious problems he can face ? no offense but i don't think there are any laws in india for copying ...
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VG knows that guy , he is going to kick his *** .
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guys comeon... many tutorials here also were or would be taken from some place.. may be i may be rong... but .. spreading info is not that bad.. anywa wit today search engine if u search for gigasmilies it will land up only in giga` forum ... so in that case ... i dont know wht is the real harm.. this is internet ... stopping one s very difficult... unless he himself changes his attitude...
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I am not trying to threaten that guy .. All I ask is to give the link back to the original post. Is this was done before hand, I would not have created this thread. I will say there is nothing wrong is copying .. but it should be done by giving proper credit to the original author.
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Plagiarism is highly frowned upon. I don't care what it was he took if it doesn't contain a link back to the website or person who created it then that definitely sucks. Not to mention the blogging community definitely takes that seriously.

By the way as a matter of fact , plagiarism of documents is a punishable offense However it must be made known to the person who posts it that the work belongs to the author. Or in other words your tutorials must specify that copying it does infringe on your rights. Or at least thats what I understand from ASCL Cyber Law Books
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Plagiarism is bad for everyone! I know it.. I've exp'd it. I had a tuff time getting down a blog who copied my project, removed all the credits and said that I had copied from him!!!!!! Imagine my state!!!

Only those who are the creators know how much hard work is involved. Given the power, I'd issue Shoot at sight orders for such people!!!

Charan, we'll get the blog owner remove the content or edit it to give proper credits. If we leave things like this, people take these for granted!
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Now I am really doubting your intentions !!! yeah trully..... the only purpose of me being active in any forum or US or any such is to [b]share information[b]... Free Information...

So is that mean all of you would help me if I ask a question only to earn credit ?? So where ever I impliment your Technique I have to Speak, thank you all might Mr. Such and Such of this ABC blog or this ABC forum ??

I am confused now... !! Are you shaing information or earning credits ?? Do note, Credit can be any thing, for Microsoft / Apple or a ABC business for A book writter, its Money... !!! for many its Fame... so what is for you ?? Fame ??

Is that your sole purpose for beging on an user group trying to share, (ohh.. no, this is now selling,) or rather Sell your Experties ??

I thought we are sharing our experties, not selling it...
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I agree with Choto Cheeta.

We are here to share info.... not sell it. If anyone want to earn money why not write a book and earn.
Why post in a blog... A blog is a diary... you leave it open to everyone... Now If people copy paste it... Can we do anything...? No! / Is that entirely their fault? No. Is that wrong? yes.

I am amazed by double standards of most people here. They use pirated software. Thats stealing. And when someone steal their written content which they left open anyway they go wooo wooo.....
(Something Like Thief , stole from a thief.)

All I want to say its Internet. Its common here. I know its bad..I don't support it too... But whats so wrong in that.
Afterall all we want is to gain knowledge.

People says to gain knowledge.... We must share it.

What is internet? a earning tool? NOOOO!
Internet should be a way of learning new things.

What we want when we blog (atleast I want) that a certian piece of info gets to the people... We want to make them know... We want to spread knowledge. Now where comes the matter of that "I posted that info 1st/2nd / 3rd."

Internet is all about shareing. If you really want to make your tutorials or anything copy protected, ZIP them making pass protected and upload them... There are other ways of protecting data too... But do we want that? No.
IMHO Copy pasteing others work is not bad.... unless info is wrong.
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if I use Ubuntu source code which is free , put my name as sole developer and claim that I developed ubuntu and then sell it for $100 then what will happen ?

opensource community will sue me
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I had chat with my frnd Charan !!!

I am really hurt by the idea

Why we really come to the forums or blog ?? What is the real goal... Many new members join the forum to learn and to obtain Free Information....

My self is also a person who joined many forums / DB / UG for the reason to learn... learn free, gather free information... knowledge has no ending, you are learning and learning till the day you die... So even today I visit many forums and blogs for an idea of learning...

To be honest, didnt I ever implimneted any techinque I learnt from a forum or a blog ??

I fixed my PC, I fixed many problem, I learnt new technique which i couldnt have done without reading your blog... in many times it helped me to saved money from asking a proffesional help or to go to suppose Arena Multimedia to learn a software skills...

So in terms I cant repay any of you back i never thought I would ever have to repay one who is writting a open to all free blog / forum post !!!

I am really out numbered by those who belives that its not free information any more... asking for back link means you are charging a person for sharing information, which you put up in your forum post or in blog as for free , which to me in terms contradicts to idea of Free Inforamtion ...



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if I use Ubuntu source code which is free , put my name as sole developer and claim that I developed ubuntu and then sell it for $100 then what will happen ?
This is a software... a product.... where as Sharing desktop remotely using real VNC this by no mean a software, its a technique which you know and wanted to share with all free, at-least that is what I thougt...

but interms its payable, if I read it I would learn it and if I learn it I would impliment it and it is possible that i may implimnet it in a proffesional place where I earn money from it... and aslo possible I teach few people regarding it... so Do you thing I would need share the money with you or every time I implimnet the technique infront of a person who may learn the technique from me, I have to browse the net and show him your blogs or rather this forums URL and say "please ses, this is where I learnt it from.." ??

To be honest its not about Charan or Mr. X, its about general Idea
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This is a software... a product.... where as Sharing desktop remotely using real VNC this by no mean a software, its a technique which you know and wanted to share with all free, at-least that is what I thougt...
Yes its a product and the company want it to share with others for free.. so are the articles here in digit..

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but interms its payable, if I read it I would learn it and if I learn it I would impliment it and it is possible that i may implimnet it in a proffesional place where I earn money from it... and aslo possible I teach few people regarding it... so Do you thing I would need share the money with you or every time I implimnet the technique infront of a person who may learn the technique from me, I have to browse the net and show him your blogs or rather this forums URL and say "please ses, this is where I learnt it from.." ??
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What are you talking man !!!! I am just disappointed with your comments. Talk only about Plagiarism.

This is regarding copying content in the internet by others and claiming that its their work. I dont care what he does in real life. He cannot post the exact same content and claim he has done it.be it my work or others. But in internet we wont leave him. See vishal's content.. many people are stealing his work
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This is regarding copying content in the internet by others and claiming that its their work.
Exactly the point I wanna make. Seldom is my name mentioned on blogs/websites and I haf absolutely NO problems with it. I've posted in many such blogs anonymously just to get feedback on my project. They interact with me not knowing that its my project!

I haf a problem when someone steals my creations, removes my comments, inserts his and claims that I copied from him!!
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Creation is some thing else... Mac4Lin is creation but a guide on installation of a software under linux is not creatation it is sharing of information or knowledge...

Have a hard fight for Mac4Lin, I would help you for that, but I cant stand the fact if you have the same idea for suppose a guide of yours for installation of a software under linux

Ani, fight to protect your creation, but enjoy to see the spread of knowledge, note one thing, should we say its my knowledge thats your knowledge ?? !!! Shuld we limit knowledge saying learn but dont implimnet and some one may learn my knowledge from you... is that what we want ?? is not this completelly agaisnt our goal of Sharing the knowledge between all between each other ??
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Guys......
How do u check whether u r tuts hv been copied or not..........
as it is not possible to check millions of sites and blog..........
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Have a hard fight for Mac4Lin, I would help you for that, but I cant stand the fact if you have the same idea for suppose a guide of yours for installation of a software under linux
Yes, the guide is copyrighted. It cannot be reproduced without permission. However, it doesn't anywhere say that My name should be compulsorily be published. Many people haf emailed me and taken my permission to publish the guide and nowhere haf I asked them to publish my name. It has been translated to spanish, greek and what not.

I will not fight a case which ultimately puts my name there for fame. But I'll fight a case which takes my work and says that he/she is the original creator. I won't press to replace his/her name with mine, but I'll do so to remove his/her name from the "creator's list" and make it anonymous.

If you goto howtoforge.com you'll see that the tutorials and guides haf some kind of copyright. I do not want anyone to give any royalty to me or mention my name everytime they use my project or read my guide. All I want is that improper and unethical credits are avoided. I don't care if I'm not credited for my work.
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