Vodafone is in Airtel will take a beating likely

[viruses]

Vodafone with over 200 million customers and in 26 countries is in india officially now.
Airtel will probably go down as it cannot face vodafone.what do you guys think?

[iMav]

the market is big enough airtel will not go down ... airtel knew abt vodafone's entry for a long time and obviously have thought about strategies ... besides if airtel could over take hutch and survive with reliance


vodafone is sure to shake up the market ... i read somewhr ... they are gonna come up with 666/- 777/- plans with cell fones .... so the market will only get better no 1 will go down ....



PS: what vodafone has out of india does not determine what they will have here

[Pathik]

Airtel is the strongest gsm player.. It cannot lose out on its home pitch..

[praka123]

MeraBharathMahaan-Airtel,idea or any.btwn essar is still their(vadafone) partner?

[infra_red_dude]

yes, essar still holds stake as due to govt. policies a foreign company can't haf 100% holding. its Vodaphone-Essar.

[iMav]

essar bpl mein bhi hai .... sab jagah paisa daal k rakha hai ...

[infra_red_dude]

no bpl anymore imav. it has been fully bought over by hutch sometime ago. so finally we haf only airtel, vodaphone, bsnl as the major GSM players now (reliance is yet to catch up, idea is limited to few circles so is aircel)

[Pathik]

and afaik essar has full control of bpl too.. Rite??

[infra_red_dude]

as i said, there is NO MORE bpl brand existent! its only the old sim cards that show bpl (just like they show hutch even tho its vodaphone now).

unless vodaphone improves on plans, services and facilities i don't think they will be a thread to anyone.

[alsiladka]

No, it is still called BPL in Mumbai, but it is owned by Hutch.

As far as Vodafone's entry in Indian market goes, they are competing in a completely new market this time - A market with the worlds cheapest rates. And i do not think airtel would sit silently saying that its Vodafone from 26 countie with a 200 million userbase!

Airtel was the first indian cos to touch the 25 millions users and was one of the top 10 mobile service provider in the world, atleast till some time back.

[contactpraven2001]

well vodafone was in 26 countries but india is still different from other so no fear for airtel still a big player (at least in india )

[The_Devil_Himself]

Originally Posted by alsiladka

As far as Vodafone's entry in Indian market goes, they are competing in a completely new market this time - A market with the worlds cheapest rates.

Cheapest rates??Have you ever seen vodafones call rates in europe and what cool phones they provide at dirt cheap rates with their connection.

[ThinkFree]

Its too early to say anything, but if both of them try be the number 1 it would be the consumers who would be get the most benefit

[alsiladka]

Originally Posted by The_Devil_Himself

Cheapest rates??Have you ever seen vodafones call rates in europe and what cool phones they provide at dirt cheap rates with their connection.

Thats what i had read in one of the papers once. We in India have 10p/M, i do not think any country over there has it so low, i may be wrong though. I have no source for it.

[desai_amogh]

only thing im looking for from vodafone is broadband conxn using 3G ... @ cheap rates..

[alsiladka]

Originally Posted by desai_amogh

only thing im looking for from vodafone is broadband conxn using 3G ... @ cheap rates..

3G introduction wont be sped up on Vodafone's Entry.

3G spectrum allocation is witheld due to the Defence Min. demand for an alternate means of secure comm. Acc to the latest standing, they shall soon be releasing 2G spectrum for Mum n delhi, followed by 2G release for the other circles and then the 3G release.

[Tech.Masti]

read somewhere that vodafone can launch some handset which may price only Rs.666..... the phone maker may be ZTE of china....

[Stick]

Vodafone known for High Call Charges in UK/EU and UAE some time back when Hutch goint to finalise the deal with VF (vodafone) I read same (sorry can't remember the source) ....

[shantanu]

how is the network ? i mean better than Airtel ?

[NucleusKore]

Originally Posted by shantanu

how is the network ? i mean better than Airtel ?

Hutch (Or Vodafone) is a operates at 1800 Mhz, against Airtel and other which operate at 800 MHz. This means better voice clarity, but it has a flip side. As the range of the waves and penetrating power is less they have to install more towers for transmission at higher frequencies. You are more likely to lose a Hutch (Vodafone) signal in a building than an Airtel or Spice signal. This is from personal experience.
These problems can be resolved by fitting a booster on the building. The company normally installs these free after entering an agreement with the building owners. I do not know who supplies the electricity for the booster though.

[ravi_9793]

Is vodafone going to start internet service also???..any idea guys??

[The_Devil_Himself]

I really hope they do.

[rajat.forever]

i think dis is like india Vs pakistan match in 20-20,
no body can guess wat will happen next????????

[Stick]

Originally Posted by NucleusKore

You are more likely to lose a Hutch (Vodafone) signal in a building than an Airtel or Spice signal.

I have exact opposite experience, where my friends AirTel didn't get signal, my hutch gets.

The company normally installs these free after entering an agreement with the building owners. I do not know who supplies the electricity for the booster though.

You answered your own question, building owner/society gains monthly Rental from Booster Company and in return they agree to provide electricity.

[djmykey]

Originally Posted by Stick

I have exact opposite experience, where my friends AirTel didn't get signal, my hutch gets.
You answered your own question, building owner/society gains monthly Rental from Booster Company and in return they agree to provide electricity.

AFAIK the service provider itself applies for an Commercial meter and uses the electricity from that meter for its antenna's and booster's. If any building owner gives power then I'm not sure about it. But I guess this is how it works.

[preshit.net]

Originally Posted by NucleusKore

Hutch (Or Vodafone) is a operates at 1800 Mhz, against Airtel and other which operate at 800 MHz.

Excuse me, but you clearly have no Idea what you are talking about.

When Hutch / Vodafone first started in India ( Hutchinson Max or Maxtouch if you may), they operated @ 900Mhz. They did not get a license to operate at 1800Mhz up until August, 2001. ( Source )

Whereas Airtel on the other hand has always operated @ 1800Mhz. That is why, you need a dual-band handset to use their SIMs.

Just a personal input here, but Airtel's network is far more superior than Hutch's ( now Vodafone ). Not only in the outdoors, but even in basements, lifts and corridoors.

[gsmsikar]

read this

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/2388047.cms

now what u all say ?

[sai_cool]

dude,

out of personal experience i am telling you, in chennai, i never get a full strentgth( 5 bars) airtel signal and i always get a 5 bar from hutch( vodafone)

the airtel netowrk in chennai is very very poor..

[NucleusKore]

Originally Posted by DARK LORD

Excuse me, but you clearly have no Idea what you are talking about.

When Hutch / Vodafone first started in India ( Hutchinson Max or Maxtouch if you may), they operated @ 900Mhz. They did not get a license to operate at 1800Mhz up until August, 2001. ( Source )

Whereas Airtel on the other hand has always operated @ 1800Mhz. That is why, you need a dual-band handset to use their SIMs.

Maybe in Delhi and some other parts of India(see first link below), but all over India Airtel are @900MHz. Why don't you ask them
Hutch on the other hand has ALWAYS operated at 1800MHz
See here
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_in.shtml

and

http://www.answers.com/topic/gsm-frequency-ranges

[preshit.net]

1) You'd mentioned 800MHz which isn't the case
2) See the source I posted. That's hutchinson-whampoa'a site which says they did not get 1800MHz license until 2001.