Islam And Terrorism

[apacheman]

MUSLIMS ARE FUNDAMENTALISTS AND TERRORISTS


Why are most of the Muslims fundamentalists and terrorists?

This question is often hurled at Muslims, either directly or indirectly, during any discussion on religion or world affairs. Muslim stereotypes are perpetuated in every form of the media accompanied by gross misinformation about Islam and Muslims. In fact, such misinformation and false propaganda often leads to discrimination and acts of violence against Muslims. A case in point is the anti-Muslim campaign in the American media following the Oklahoma bomb blast, where the press was quick to declare a ‘Middle Eastern conspiracy’ behind the attack. The culprit was later identified as a soldier from the American Armed Forces.

Let us analyze this allegation of ‘fundamentalism’ and ‘terrorism’:

1. Definition of the word ‘fundamentalist’

A fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practise the fundamentals of medicine. In other words, he should be a fundamentalist in the field of medicine. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of mathematics. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of mathematics. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of science. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science.

2. Not all ‘fundamentalists’ are the same

One cannot paint all fundamentalists with the same brush. One cannot categorize all fundamentalists as either good or bad. Such a categorization of any fund amentalist will depend upon the field or activity in which he is a fundamentalist. A fundamentalist robber or thief causes harm to society and is therefore undesirable. A fundamentalist doctor, on the other hand, benefits society and earns much respect.

3. I am proud to be a Muslim fundamentalist

I am a fundamentalist Muslim who, by the grace of Allah, knows, follows and strives to practise the fundamentals of Islam. A true Muslim does not shy away from being a fundamentalist. I am proud to be a fundamentalist Muslim because, I know that the fundamentals of Islam are beneficial to humanity and the whole world. There is not a single fundamental of Islam that causes harm or is against the interests of the human race as a whole. Many people harbour misconceptions about Islam and consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. If one critically analyzes the teachings of Islam with an open mind, one cannot escape the fact that Islam is full of benefits both at the individual and collective levels.

4. Dictionary meaning of the word ‘fundamentalist’

According to Webster’s dictionary ‘fundamentalism’ was a movement in American Protestanism that arose in the earlier part of the 20th century. It was a reaction to modernism, and stressed the infallibility of the Bible, not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record. It stressed on belief in the Bible as the literal word of God. Thus fundamentalism was a word initially used for a group of Christians who believed that the Bible was the verbatim word of God without any errors and mistakes.

According to the Oxford dictionary ‘fundamentalism’ means ‘strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion, especially Islam’.

Today the moment a person uses the word fundamentalist he thinks of a Muslim who is a terrorist.

5. Every Muslim should be a terrorist

Every Muslim should be a terrorist. A terrorist is a person who causes terror. The moment a robber sees a policeman he is terrified. A policeman is a terrorist for the robber. Similarly every Muslim should be a terrorist for the antisocial elements of society, such as thieves, dacoits and rapists. Whenever such an anti-social element sees a Muslim, he should be terrified. It is true that the word ‘terrorist’ is generally used for a person who causes terror among the common people. But a true Muslim should only be a terrorist to selective people i.e. anti-social elements, and not to the common innocent people. In fact a Muslim should be a source of peace for innocent people.

6. Different labels given to the same individual for the same action, i.e. ‘terrorist’ and ‘patriot’

Before India achieved independence from British rule, some freedom fighters of India who did not subscribe to non-violence were labeled as terrorists by the British government. The same individuals have been lauded by Indians for the same activities and hailed as ‘patriots’. Thus two different labels have been given to the same people for the same set of actions. One is calling him a terrorist while the other is calling him a patriot. Those who believed that Britain had a right to rule over India called these people terrorists, while those who were of the view that Britain had no right to rule India called them patriots and freedom fighters.

It is therefore important that before a person is judged, he is given a fair hearing. Both sides of the argument should be heard, the situation should be analyzed, and the reason and the intention of the person should be taken into account, and then the person can be judged accordingly.

7. Islam means peace

Islam is derived from the word ‘salaam’ which means peace. It is a religion of peace whose fundamentals teach its followers to maintain and promote peace throughout the world.

Thus every Muslim should be a fundamentalist i.e. he should follow the fundamentals of the Religion of Peace: Islam. He should be a terrorist only towards the antisocial elements in order to promote peace and justice in the society.

[gaurav_indian]

Are you telling or asking? B/w i dont support these kinds of sensitive issues to be discussed in forums.As i have many Pakistani friends i dont like these Hindu vs Muslims thing.Sorry but i hate these kinds of topics.

[gxsaurav]

u r not the only one.

All religions say the same thing, peace & humanity. Even Bin Laden is a gr8 leader, however he is misleading people towards distruction for his personal endeavors

[apacheman]

Originally Posted by gaurav_indian

Are you telling or asking? B/w i dont support these kinds of sensitive issues to be discussed in forums.As i have many Pakistani friends i dont like these Hindu vs Muslims thing.Sorry but i hate these kinds of topics.

Jeez...there's nthn of da Hindu vs Muslim in this thread..Read it thoroughly, my boy... dont jus comment by glancing at it once.

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by apacheman

Jeez...there's nthn of da Hindu vs Muslim in this thread..Read it thoroughly, my boy... dont jus comment by glancing at it once.

Mere bache yahan jyadatar hindu hi hai.Aur jab woh comment karenge toh Hindu vs muslim nahi hoga? Thread reported.

[apacheman]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

u r not the only one.

Even Bin Laden is a gr8 leader, however he is misleading people towards distruction for his personal endeavors

well, hope u dont blindly trust what the media says about Bin Laden. No one really know the truth about him. but one thing is for sure, he was definitely not behind the WTC as publicised by the Western Media. Bush n associates jus used him as an excuse for their dominion n intruding of Middle east countries.
Even U.S citizens agree to the fact that Bush govt had planned the WTC attack. Even the video footage aired was fake n pre-planned by CNN n BBC.

[iMav]

^^ u really believe those conspiracy theories ....

Every terrorist is a Freedom Fighter for his land

[apacheman]

Originally Posted by iMav

^^ u really believe those conspiracy theories ....

9/11 was an inside job. it was a conpiracy by Bush n his damn associates. its quite obvious. Look at the evidence, Pentagon could not be hit by a plane, it was definitely not, it was a missile. Watch Loose Change. Put ur thinking caps on.

www.ny911truth.org/
www.911sharethetruth.com/
www.911truth.org/
www.loosechange911.com/

n yea, the word is out dat Bin Laden might be dead ....long before.

[iMav]

all conspiracy theories which have been discussed on this board loooooooooooooong ago so dont start all of tht all over again ... bush didnt call u and tell u tht he did it so its america's problem let them deal with it

[apacheman]

Originally Posted by iMav

all conspiracy theories which have been discussed on this board loooooooooooooong ago so dont start all of tht all over again ... bush didnt call u and tell u tht he did it so its america's problem let them deal with it

well, yea.... u've got a point. cheers.

[Aberforth]

I'll tell you something apacheman. It is this obession with religion which makes the world look at Muslims with paranoia. This is first of all a technology forum and there are hardly any religious discussion here. I believe most members here do not give a penny about what Muslims are and are not. What I see here is a subtle attempt on your part in missionary works, unless of course you have something else up your sleeve.

[~Lil JinX~]

I agree with some points, and I disagree with some.

I think, the main 'problem' that comes into play is not fundamentalism- everyone should be free to think and believe what they deem best. The main problem here is fanaticism (which, incidentally, is NOT restricted to Islam). The problem is that some people tend to interpret the scriptures (whichever they may follow) to their liking and to their convenience.

@Aberforth
Hmm...*realizes that what I said is very similar to what you did. Anyway, meh* Ah, and I'd also like to point out that its not only Muslims that are 'obsessed with religion' You see that trend in almost all faiths.

[Aberforth]

~Lil JinX~, I agree that I see that trend in all faiths but compare the obession of a Muslim with that of others. How many Hindu, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhist or Jews made a thread about religion on this forum? Muslims made at least two of them.

[faraaz]

My cousin was admitted to the Stanford Graduate School of Business...but he is now being denied a Visa because he is Muslim. No other reason...he got a 750 on his GMAT, he had a 3.9/4.0 GPA, he was the only Indian fresher to be admitted to the GSB in a LONG time. AND he was granted a visa once before already for his engineering course...he opted not to do that but go to Australia instead though. And now he applied for his VISA 3 months ago. It has still not come and they say that it probably wont.

**** America, **** their paranoia, and please keep in mind I am a Muslim as I say this, **** ALL YOU MUSLIMS WHO HAVE RUINED OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS WORLD!

[cynosure]

Offtopic: ^^ I know dude. Sh1t happens. Now America and someother first world countries are showing this kinda attitude to the entire south asian community, not only muslims. They are phasing out the scholarships and everything in their colleges.
They think their people can have no cons. Terrorists kill people coz of religion, Americans kill people coz of GTA/Doom and Manhunt. Whats the similarity between the two clans??? BOth are bunch of arseholes.

[karnivore]

^^ amen to that.

[minniawochat]

Originally Posted by cynosure

Whats the similarity between the two clans??? BOth are bunch of arseholes.

ha ha ha ha ha has

You Said the Point

thanks

[gaurav_indian]

America is a land of fools.

[vish786]

Originally Posted by gaurav_indian

America is a land of fools.

except the indians living their.

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by vish786

except the indians living their.

Its understandable lol.

[shantanu]

There are hindu terriorist groups too.. sikh too.. its not only muslims.. in every thing as we say it ,, all five fingers are not alike.. so you cant blame all of the community or religion just because of some bad in it.


it has become a normal thinking now-a-days that muslims are terrorists. well can anyone explain what a terrorist is ?
isnt bush a terrorist then ?
well he is not , because he lead a most powerfull nation among the group.
America is land where duality leads.

i wont say much on the topic.. but reading the first line itself makes me a bit tensed.. i wont edit anything.. as the topic is going in discussion.. but this kind of threads should not be posted, which can hurt some values of a person..

The thread was not reported, i dont know whether i should have posted this or not.. but my heart said me to write..

[gaurav_indian]

^^ Shivsena and Bajrang dal are those groups.They do gundagiri everywhere.Someone has to stop them.They dont want any north indian there why?Any Indian can go anywhere in India noone can stop them.

[Arsenal_Gunners]

Originally Posted by gaurav_indian

America is a land of fools.

and how foolish is calling an entire country fool

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by Arsenal_Gunners

and how foolish is calling an entire country fool

haha lol that was said by Johnny Depp

[Arsenal_Gunners]

^^That doesnt make it right.

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by Arsenal_Gunners

^^That doesnt make it right.

But that doesnt make it wrong either.

[Arsenal_Gunners]

That is the point of the thread.It is foolish to generalise all people as terrorists or fools.

[shantanu]

Sourabh sign : You can think i am wrong.. but thats no reason to stop thinking..

@arsenal : you are right..

[praka123]

One Word-Let the brain of the "religious" be open.there is something to do when we hear that Muslims in India are under religious persecution that too spreaded by/from our neighbors Islamic Utopias!(noted from some south asia forums).believe it!India gives you the freedom which "saudi-arabia" can only dream of .being religious is good.but don't let u immerse and follow each and every word of your Holy Book(s) atleast consider this is 21st century.Let be we courteous to our nation first.let us see the different religions coexist peacefully(not all areas).
there is something which the teachings have to do with terrorism.never ever go with the word jihad.Leave the brain-wash of whole Islamic world be united,others be eliminated etc etc. Just read the words of what Islamic Khalipfite will offer for us:

The Moplah rebellion (also known as the Mopla riots) was a British-Muslim and Hindu-Muslim conflict in Kerala that occurred in 1921. During the early months of 1921, multiple events including the Khilafat movement and the Karachi resolution fueled the fires of rebellion. A rumour spread amongst the Moplahs that the British rule had ended and the Islamic Caliphate had been re-established at Delhi.
According to one view, the reasons for the Moplah rebellion was religious revivalism among the Muslim Moplahs, and hostility toward land-owning Hindu Nair community and the British administration that inevitably supported the latter.
[...]
On Aug 20, the first incident of the rebellion occurred at Tirurangadi when the District Magistrate of Calicut with the help of troops attempted to arrest a few Moplah leaders who were in the possession of arms, resulting in clashes.
Arsonists took to the street, burning and destroying government property. The initial focus was on the government, but when the limited presence of the government was eliminated, Moplahs turned their full attention on the Hindus. One Mohommed Haji was proclaimed the Caliph of the Moplah Khilafat and flags of Islamic Caliphate were flown. Ernad and Walluvanad were declared Khilafat kingdoms.
[...]
. The rebellion was considered as a jihad against all non-Muslims (Hindu and British) to impose Islamic rule in the area.
Annie Besant stated: "They Moplas murdered and plundered abundantly, and killed or drove away all Hindus who would not apostatise. Somewhere about a lakh (100,000) of people were driven from their homes with nothing but their clothes they had on, stripped of everything...Malabar has taught us what Islamic rule still means, and we do not want to see another specimen of the Khilafat Raj in India."[1]

Interpretation

It is important to note that the Moplah riots came just after the all-India Khilafat agitation supported by Muslim leaders and Mahatama Gandhi to avoid the elimination of the Islamic Caliphate. The Islamic caliphate was eventually abolished in 1924 by Mustafa Kemal Attaturk the dictator, strongman and father of Modern Turkey. When Attaturk did that he "pulled out the rug" from the whole Khilifat movement. This offers a strong indication that a large section of the Moplahs also saw the affair as a jihad or holy war against the British. But Hindus(kafirs) were target and killed. Nearly 30,000 hindus were killed, thousands of innocent hindu women were raped and thousands converted forcibly.

read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mopla
(Moplas are Malabar muslims who are converted by Malik ibn Deenar in the Prophets era itself in Kerala.The Muslim Mappilas are the earliest known Indian Muslim community, having existed since the 8th century AD, when Arab merchants who had long been trading with the Chera kingdom converted them to Islam, based on the preachings of monotheism by Muhammad in Arabia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moplah#Muslim_Mappilas
)


we,the other indians or what u call non-muslims are not like some saudi/arab warlords who is getting ur eyes removed,parts-parts removed.this nation is something which is different,better than the crude middle-eastern barbarians existed so many centuries ago.this is a country which got a better civilization which is to be respected.never take Hinduism as a religion.it is the culture of India.be it south,west or eastern parts.only some organizations makes the name that Hindu are different.remember "Atidhi Devo Bhava" and that generosity allowed semitic religions prosper here too.
and before expecting me to be a "hindu" -let me disclose to you-I am not a Hindu-if that is what ur particular of.I have seen this behaviour for eg: one user here in this forum has "detected" that this forum is a "hindu" forum.wth?
MY Muslim Bro,dont be paranoid and divide ppl as muslims and non-muslims.let not "completely" follow the teachings.have some rational thinking too.without enemity,without sword and not a swashbuckler -me

[vish786]

Originally Posted by praka123

One Word-Let the brain of the "religious" be open.there is something to do when we hear that Muslims in India are under religious persecution that too spreaded by/from our neighbors Islamic Utopias!(noted from some south asia forums).believe it!

one reason they do this is, those people cannot see india prosper.