Battle of the Music Phones

[gxsaurav]

Well, the days of the standalone Digital Audio Players is over now. They served us good since 2001, in the form of Creative Zen, Sandisk Sansa & iPod. They still hold the majority of market because you can buy from a verity of devices but here is the thing, Mobile Phones now are much more capable then in 2001. They have a lot of storage memory & much more feature which makes them a better buy compared to a standalone DAP which costs a lot

So, here are the latest contenders in Mobile Phones which are also a DAPs & DVPs. They are meant to play audio basically, but they can play Videos despite of having a small screen. Watching Video is not worth while on these devices duo to small screen. But still for those who need it, it will do the job just fine.

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Nokia N77



The upcoming Nokia Phone for the masses, it’s a Smartphone actually cos it has Symbian OS 9.2 which means you can install from a verity of applications. I included this phone as there soon will be a N77 ME, & N77 is better then N73 so far. The specs are (related to use of Multimedia device only)

1) Dimension of 111 x 50 x 18.8 mm, with 114 Gm weight

2) 16 Million Color based 2.4 inch screen with a resolution of 240X320, which means VCD like quality on the mobile phone itself.

3) Expansion in the form of Transflash card 20 MB internal memory

4) GPRS, EDGE, 3G & HSCSD but Bluetooth 1.2 only (what was nokia thinking)

5) MP3/M4A/AAC/eAAC+/WMA player
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Sony Ericsson W880i



Sony bought audio to everyone in the form of Walkman in 1970s. They recreated the music industry at that time & there walkman brand is still the biggest success. They came with the same walkman branding for their Digital Audio Phones & boy was this a success. It sure is, these walkman phones now hold recognition in a market dominated by Standalone DAPs. The specs are

1) Dimension of 103 x 46.5 x 9.5 mm & 71 gm, talk about power in a small shell

2) 256k TFT screen, not the best around. SE could have easily given a 16m color this time as this phone is already using a nVidia chip inside for displaying video, resolution of 240X320 with a 1.8 inch screen. This phone does lacks in video playback, but then again Walkman brand is made for Music playback not video

3) Expansion with Memory Stick M2 card, which right now goes up to 2 GB & is supposed to go up to 8 GB in a few years. 1 GB Card included with 16 MB inbuilt memory which acts as the RAM

4) No Wifi & EDGE here, but it has 3G with Bluetooth 2.0+EDR

5) MP3/M4A/AAC/eAAC+/WMA player
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Motorola Ming



One of the first phones with a Linux OS. Moto Ming supports numuras features & a really big screen, it's can very well have the potential to be a video phones. It's specs are

1) Dimension 95.7 x 51.7 x 21.5 mm, look like a Pro device weighing in at 122 gm

2) TFT Screen with 256K Colors & 320X240 resolution display, with full screen Video playback

3) 8 MB user memory & 3.5 MB Phone memory. Comon Motorola, what were u thinking, it's a smartphone for gods sake, give more inbuilt memory. Expension is in the form of MicroSD card

4) MP3/MP4/AAC+ player, however weather it playes mp4 videos is still skeptic
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Sony Ericsson W950i



More like a smartphone, cos it has 3G, touch screen, Symbain OS but no camera, not even a VGA Camera, comon...whast the use of 3G then. Its specs are

1) Dimensions 106 x 54 x 15 mm, 112 gm

2) 256K TFT LCD with 240X320 resolution

3) It's symbian so you can install from many media players out there

4) 4 GB internal Memory with no expension. Well, Sony Memory sticks go upto 4 GB right now anyway, so lack of expension is not something to miss. 4 GB is a lot anyway.

5) GPRS, EDGE & 3G

6) MP3/AAC/MPEG4 player, with full playback of H.263 mp4 files at 256kbps, 30X240 full screen resolution & 30 frames.

The phone is meant more like a multimedia device cum phone. I do agree that inclusion of even a 1.3 mp camera would have made this phone perfect out there. Beats P990i hands down (other then keypad).

Read review from GSMArena
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Nokia N91 8GB



The first Nokia N series Phone. It was meant to be a fusion of Music Player & Mobile phones, but failed due to bad camera & bulky looks. The concept took over though & we are seeing ME phones from Nokia now.

It has a unique keypad mechanism which looks dandy & cool. The specs are


1) Dimensions 113.1 x 55.2 x 22 mm with 164 gm, really bulky

2) A low resolution of 174X208 on a 256K color screen. Definately nothing compared to ther other phones.

3) 8 GB Microdrive, the one we see in Sansa & Zen etc.

4) 3G, EDGE & GPRS & even WiFi

5) Just MP3/AAC player, no WMA or RA despite of being Symbian OS

Even N73 ME is better then this phone. Though you cannot go wrong with 8 GB of storage, but you will have to live with low resolution
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Nokia 5300 Express Music



During my recent trip to Gurgaon, I had a chance to use this Phone. The speaker is really good, alsmost equal to a W700i in sound quality. It's a slider so big screen, however despite of being 240X320 resolution based, the screen lacks the sharpness & crispness of even my K750i which runs at a lower resolution. Its specs are

1) Dimension 92.4 x 48.2 x 20.7 mm with weight 106 gm.

2) 256K color based TFT screen with 240X320 resolution screen, however it does lacks crispness compared to even a K750i

3) 1 GB memory card included, but only 5 MB internal memory.Again, what was Nokia thinking. Atleast 20 MB internal memory is required

4) GPRS & Edge

5) 1.3 mp camera

6) MP3/SpMidi/AAC/AAC+ player

You can read a review of Nokia 5300 from GSMArena
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Chose your poison , which one you guys find better

P.S. - This thread is for the discussion of Mobile phones only. Do not hack the thread with iPhone. Macboyism strictly not allowed. If you have other contenders from Nokia & SE or Motorola or Samsung, let me know that will be added here too

[Pathik]

well u cant actually make a thread on music fones and leave iPhone out...
btw imho n77 rox

[gxsaurav]

Oh plz, iPhone is a PMP but I don't want to bring that in here due to the attitude of Macboys all over, I hope you can understand

[Pathik]

i didnt like the keypad of w880i...
btw i wd prefer w888 to w880 cos in india we still dont hav 3G and it shd be a lot cheaper than w880i...

[amitava82]

i'd go for W830... looks cool

[the.kaushik]

n91(/8gb) the best..

[shantanu]

I am planning to buy Nokia N95 as it comes in market in april... i think it would be the best time.. cant understand why the cell launched first in australia only.... as soon as it hitsmarket here i willbuy it..

[gxsaurav]

shantanu, don't forget you will need to keep your soul on mortgage cos that N95 is going to cost a bomb

[shantanu]

cost is never a tension , but i should have some power that could help me out wear a ANTI-BOMB shell...

i think it will cost a $770 as i have enquired.. and a cingular connection will come in $320 so spending $1000 is well in reach for me...

[gxsaurav]

Rs 50K for a phone, yo what job u do? tell me i m ready to switch to your job

[shantanu]

hmmm , PMed you... ... gr8 tell me if you wanna switch over ..

[gxsaurav]

ya sure when should i join

[shantanu]

you read my PM naa.. coool tell me when you want to... 15 days more i am on BED with fractures.. so after that till then i need free medication hehe

[gxsaurav]

hmm...Yogaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[shantanu]

whats this YOGA.. ru doing yogaaaa

[Sourabh]

Music Phones ...

[shantanu]

he said YOGAAA and you music phones whats happening... cant understand

music phones DO YOGAAA
returning back to topic

[gxsaurav]

nope, music phone play mp3 & 3GP of Achrya Ramdev

[Tech.Masti]

^^

BTW Motorola Ming A1200 is also cool handset and it comes with linux, so they called it smartphone, have EDGE, BT, Touch Screen..... cool review here...
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/...a1200-en.shtml

[gxsaurav]

I have myself used Moto Ming & kinda liked it. However despite of being Linux based application for Ming are limited. Prove me wrong, I haven't seen much of the application support for Ming so far

However the Multimedia capabilities are gr8. I am gonna update the first post with Ming too

Why don't you add N91 8gb and W950i to your list. These are the best sounding music phones out there and can not only rival proper music players in terms of sound quality and features, but also in capacity of music they can store.

[gxsaurav]

Ok, doing that.

Isn't N91 8 GB phased out? with N93

[Pathik]

nope... n91 8GB is still available... no other nokia fone hs a hdd... all inc. n93 hav flash memory..

[gxsaurav]

Just read the W950i review on GSM Arena. Sony should make it the base for it's video Walkman infact, Take the same body, remove all "Phone features" which results in a big screen. Now, add to it a 2 MP camera, 4 GB is enough for starters, & a touchscreen nevigation. I guess I have a new Concept Video walkman in the works . A pure multimedia device, & due to exclusion of Phone features it will get slim further

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

This thread is for the discussion of Mobile phones only. Do not hack the thread with iPhone.

Oh, and the iPhone is not a mobile phone? LOL!

Originally Posted by pathiks

well u cant actually make a thread on music fones and leave iPhone out...

Exactly!

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

Oh plz, iPhone is a PMP but I don't want to bring that in here due to the attitude of Macboys all over, I hope you can understand

Yeah, we sure can!

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

The moment you point out a flaw in Apple products you are decalred a terrorist & Anti-Apple, you are bombarded with rants all over

Not when you post something sensible like Macs' lack of proper support for TV-tuner cards. But when you post something as idiotic as iPhone does not support the IMAP protocol or that it cannot connect to Microsoft Exchange server, you kind of deserve that kind of pwnage, don't you!

Anyway, this is the phone that is the proper contender for the music phone category, the one that has the best features of all these phones and that looks the coolest among these:

Apple iPhone



iPhone is a widescreen iPod with touch controls that lets you enjoy all your content — including music, audiobooks, videos, TV shows, and movies — on a beautiful 3.5-inch widescreen display. It also lets you sync your content from the iTunes library on your PC or Mac. And then you can access it all with just the touch of a finger.

Screen size: 3.5 inches
Screen resolution: 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
Input method: Multi-touch
Operating system: OS X
Storage: 4GB or 8GB
GSM: Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
Wireless data: Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
Camera: 2.0 megapixels
Battery: Up to 5 hours of Talk / Video / Browsing; Up to 16 hours of Audio playback
Dimensions: 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight: 4.8 ounces / 135 grams

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

iPhone does not support connection with Exchange Server. i never said it doesn't support IMAP, I said it only supports yahoo IMAP, now tell me, what good is such IMAP support?

Yes, I know you said that and that is wrong. Completely wrong.

I posted this in another thread and am posting it again:

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

srya, your knowledge is really low. iPhone only supports Yahoo push mail, what about hotmail or a company's own mail server or even MS exchange server?

See the second line on the right column on the screen. Look at what it says:
"Any IMAP or POP3 email service"
Got it? I guess not. It means:
"Koi bhi IMAP ya POP3 email suvidha"

I am sorry I know only these two languages.

Now, have a look at this one:



Now, look at the column in the middle. Steve is showing that it basically supports any email service that offers IMAP functionality and then uses Yahoo! Mail, Microsoft Exchange and .Mac Mail as examples.
Notice something? Yes, that is Microsoft Exchange, i.e. E-X-C-H-A-N-G-E.

Now, if I am the one whose "knowledge is really low", your must be pretty much non-existent.

I know you are a little slow, so here's a slight recap:

iPhone supports any ISP that offers IMAP service including, but not limited to, Microsoft Exchange.


I hope I won't have to spoon feed this again!

I am really sorry for falling to his level, but I just could not resist this time!

koolbluez, I never expected YOU to fall to his level.

[koolbluez]

N77 looks like a base version of Nokia phones. Only the larger screen gave away the higher number

My personal fav in Nokias is the N80 (ok... N73ME is another kool one). Based on the same look.. the N95'll b out soon.
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I'm not against u... arya... the word just came out seein ur intense passion towards the macs! Me 2 am a Sony/SE fanatic, but never attacked or imposed onto others my "ideals" as a superior one. If I did that, then I 2 would've bordered onto pestism.

U go on attacking anything which remotely seems to compete against Apple or any of its products. Ur bigottedness towards the Malus domestica is quite conspicious here. Remember one thing, the more hard u hit a drum, the louder noise it produces. If u go on beating other products, their fanatics (& even lesser wanting mortals)'ll charge against u.

And about stoopin ↓levels... well, i just wanted u 2 hear me out, so I stooped. U heard me, right

[Pathik]

n80 isnt that good for music... n77me ll rock for sure...

[FatBeing]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

Oh plz, iPhone is a PMP

Rubbish. Read the last five letters.

Your bias against the iPhone and/or Apple is painfully obvious, Saurav - more so than Arya's bias for it. An objective "Battle of the Music Phones" thread would include the iPhone whether you like it or not.

Is it so wrong for others to have opinions that differ from yours? Everyone will prefer a different phone. I have a thing against Nokias - I don't, however, condemn the world for using them. Learn to be a little open minded.

You talk about the thread being hijacked. Apart from the flame war (instigated by you after the iPhone post), I see only posts pertaining to the topic at hand. But no - at the very mention of Apple, you go raising alarms. Grow up.

Arya - you're not without blame either. You border on troll behavior too.


Edit:
Keep the discussion to the topic. I'll be deleting irrelevent posts, and any flames following this post will result in a permanent ban - complete with IP ban if you're on a fixed IP.

And everyone, remember this statement: Don't Feed The Troll.

[gxsaurav]

@ fatbeing

iPhone might be what u say it is, but I refused to include it here cos I know & everyone else does how Macboys act, you can yourself see from arya's first post how he is acting.

The problem with Apple is not there hardware or OS, it the attitude of Macboys & Apple towards the users of Other devices & products. Everyone knows how arya acts whenever somone points out a flaw in any of Apple product