I hate Macs!!

[blackpearl]

Well, actually these aren't my words (though they almost convey my own feelings ). This is the title of an article that appeared on the Guardian's website and later submitted on Digg and thats how I came to know about it. As of now it has received 1436 diggs!! Anyway, here are some extracts of the article.

I hate Macs. I have always hated Macs. I hate people who use Macs. I even hate people who don't use Macs but sometimes wish they did. Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.

PCs are the ramshackle computers of the people. You can build your own from scratch, then customise it into oblivion. Sometimes you have to slap it to make it work properly, just like the Tardis (Doctor Who, incidentally, would definitely use a PC). PCs have charm; Macs ooze pretension. When I sit down to use a Mac, the first thing I think is, "I hate Macs", and then I think, "Why has this rubbish aspirational ornament only got one mouse button?" Losing that second mouse button feels like losing a limb.

.....Cue 10 years of nasal bleating from Mac-likers who profess to like Macs not because they are fashionable, but because "they are just better". Mac owners often sneer that kind of defence back at you when you mock their silly, posturing contraptions,.....

....the campaign's biggest flaw is that it perpetuates the notion that consumers somehow "define themselves" with the technology they choose. If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...006031,00.html

Let the war begin.

[anandk]

^ et tu !

[FatBeing]

I hereby proclaim this thread Flamebait! For this thread only, I have a new rule:

For every logical argument you put forth for your camp (PC/Mac), you get to take one dig at the opposing camp. But:

1. No profanity
2. No insulting family members/upbringing/other insults that count as "below the belt"

Draw yer swords!


(the mods will probably hate me for this.....)

[mediator]

Not again!

[kumarmohit]

On a funnier note, check this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60189868317794

[aryayush]

That article is obviously crap. I think even the author did it all in good humour, maybe it is a satire on similar articles. Because it just sounds too ridiculous to be anything close to the truth.

Macs ship with a two-button mouse as a standard nowadays, BTW.

What caught my interest, however, was not the article itself but blackpearl's comment - "though they almost convey my own feelings "
Did you do that to incite a flame war or did you actually mean it? Because if it is the latter, i.e. you find that article sensible and feel that it reflects your own thoughts, you've already lost some of the pretty considerable amount of respect I had for your intelligence!
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Originally Posted by mediator

Not again!

Exactly.

[Arsenal_Gunners]

Now if the admin is involved.....Lets make this "fight" a flop :
mods close the thread

[Aberforth]

If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality.

The only quote I liked in the whole topic, the rest sounded like usual PC vs Mac rant.

[blackpearl]

Originally Posted by aryayush

What caught my interest, however, was not the article itself but blackpearl's comment - "though they almost convey my own feelings "
Did you do that to incite a flame war or did you actually mean it? Because if it is the latter, i.e. you find that article sensible and feel that it reflects your own thoughts, you've already lost some of the pretty considerable amount of respect I had for your intelligence!

There is a reason why I used the word "almost" in my statement. That's because in reality I don't hate the Mac, I hate its fanboys. For them Mac is just a fashion statement, they like to flaunt it because they are under this false impression that owning a Mac is somewhat superior. They are just one of those guys who like to flash their expensive mobile phones and other accessories. To quote your own words, remember you once said to someone who just bought a Mac -"welcome to the civilized world". So Mac users are civilized? I wonder how many hours Mac users spend each day just admiring their Mac and congratulating themselves that they own it.

Originally Posted by aryayush

That article is obviously crap. I think even the author did it all in good humour, maybe it is a satire on similar articles. Because it just sounds too ridiculous to be anything close to the truth.

Macs ship with a two-button mouse as a standard nowadays, BTW.

Thats how every Mac users commented on Digg because the article hits right on the nail, right on their inflated ego. And aryayush, you don't have to be one of them. Just use your Mac, don't start singing in its praise.

[Kiran.dks]

Oh man! The endless war BEGINS! NEVER SAY DIE ANYBODY!

[blackpearl]

On a funnier note, read these

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Windows

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Mac

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Linux

Spend some time on that website reading other articles. All are hilarious.

[Kiran.dks]

I personally don't hate Apple. Infact I use one of their Product and am pretty happy with it. I am against the song which Mac owners play seemlessly that "it's the best", showing limitless fanboyism. Fanboyism is certainly not acceptable at any stage. May it be Browsers, AntiVirus, or the OS. Well, if it's justified, it is not much a big deal. Mac OS crashes more often than Windows. They are unstable and need reboots most often than Windows. This is not my point of view, but professionals know it. Inspite of such problems, if Mac owners still argue that "Mac is the more stable than Windows", then it's absolutely lame statement.

[gxsaurav]

what the, i m not even here & this thread has become a war

[mediator]

Originally Posted by kiran_tech_mania

Mac OS crashes more often than Windows. They are unstable and need reboots most often than Windows. This is not my point of view, but professionals know it.

Well dats something new I know now!

[Kiran.dks]

Yep! Here is what a Software Developer in Yahoo who has never been known as a booster for Window has to say............

Why one Mac owner might go back to Windows?

To many Macintosh owners, it is anathema even to suggest that Apple computers are anything but vastly superior to Windows PCs. But that is exactly what one of them is saying--and he's so disenchanted that he might switch back to a Microsoft machine.

Normally, such blasphemous talk might be easily dismissed for its inanity, insanity or both. But the comments have generated particular controversy because Russell Beattie, an experienced software developer who works for Yahoo, has never been known as a booster for Windows. In a list of 33 complaints, he begins with this entry: "Anyone who says that Macs are more stable than Windows are smoking dope. I have two brand new Macs and they regularly go wacky and need reboots."

Beattie has received so much response that some bloggers are running excerpts of the many retorts.

More Info: Here

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by mediator

Well dats something new I know now!

Just because he said it?

@Kiran_tech_mania, do you have any proof that Mac OS X crashes more often than Windows? That is such a kiddish comment. I've been using it for more than six months now and have yet to experience a single crash. And I've read all sorts of problems that Mac users experience on various Apple centric forums, but one thing is common in most of them - the operating system does not crash.
There have been so few reports of Mac OS X crashing and almost every PC users who switches to a Mac stays with it.
Yes, it is possible that someone who buys a Mac gets a lemon of a product which crashes frequently. It is obviously a problem with the system and Apple will fix it for him or replace the machine. But a healthy Mac never crashes, never ever. And that is not going to change whether you believe it or not - and even if some high profile reporter like Dvorak writes about how unstable Macs are.

[tarey_g]

I feel like vomitting after reading rubbish comments again and again. :ewwwww:

[mehulved]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

what the, i m not even here & this thread has become a war

It ain't even a gang war yet. I don't even see guns drawn out here let alone bombs and fighter jets. Maybe you could start it, that too with permission from UNO(FatBeing).

[eddie]

The second one from "the camp" has not even joined yet. Let him come...may be then it will become funny

[mediator]

Originally Posted by aryayush

Just because he said it?

Nope, because he put the following line in it

This is not my point of view, but professionals know it.

But still I haven't formed any image of Mac in my mind coz I have never used it. What u told me about Mac is still in my mind but what he told has been added to that database. But dont worry, I'm not one of those people who have never used a different OS or lack experience with it and then spread lies and false notions about it. I'm still an observer in every Mac's related discussion.

[gxsaurav]

Originally Posted by mehul

It ain't even a gang war yet. I don't even see guns drawn out here let alone bombs and fighter jets. Maybe you could start it, that too with permission from UNO(FatBeing).

Nah, i made my policy.....was banned already for no reason. No use wasting time by arguing with macboys

Originally Posted by arya

That is such a kiddish comment. I've been using it for more than six months now and have yet to experience a single crash. And I've read all sorts of problems that Mac users experience on various Apple centric forums, but one thing is common in most of them - the operating system does not crash.

There have been so few reports of Mac OS X crashing and almost every PC users who switches to a Mac stays with it.
Yes, it is possible that someone who buys a Mac gets a lemon of a product which crashes frequently

Lolz....first decide what u want to say, you always get pawned & still you come back with same old reasons. Macs do crash, they hang for no reason, & if the file is in use, it gets deleted too.....wake up, this does happens

I feel like vomitting after reading rubbish comments again and again. :ewwwww:

Right said, agan & again

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by blackpearl

There is a reason why I used the word "almost" in my statement. That's because in reality I don't hate the Mac, I hate its fanboys. For them Mac is just a fashion statement, they like to flaunt it because they are under this false impression that owning a Mac is somewhat superior. They are just one of those guys who like to flash their expensive mobile phones and other accessories. To quote your own words, remember you once said to someone who just bought a Mac -"welcome to the civilized world". So Mac users are civilized? I wonder how many hours Mac users spend each day just admiring their Mac and congratulating themselves that they own it.



Thats how every Mac users commented on Digg because the article hits right on the nail, right on their inflated ego. And aryayush, you don't have to be one of them. Just use your Mac, don't start singing in its praise.

If tomorrow your uncle were to bring you a Rolex watch from USA, you would show it off to all of your friends. You'd feel a certain sense of pride in owning it. You'll feel special. People buy BMWs not only because they are better cars, but also because they signify status. They are not ordinary cars.
Macs occupy a similar place in computing. Therefore, it is obvious that people who own Macs have that sense of pride too. Yes, Mac zealots tend to go overboard. These are people who cannot tolerate anything spoken against Macs, Apple or Steve Jobs. I am not justifying their behaviour. But Apple's products are a sort of a staus symbol and you know it. People are awed when they see a Mac somewhere.
But people's devotion to Macs is justified to a large extent because they ARE such fabulous machines. You guys keep saying that people who use Windows PCs don't behave in the way Mac owners do. Yes, that is true to a large extent (with some exceptions) and that is bacause Mac owners love their computers while PC owners do not. Because Macs are easy to maintain. You spend more time doing useful work on a Mac than on maintaining it. People love Macs because they are fast and stable. The fact that these are beautiful machines also contributes to the fan following in a large way.
I am not saying that everyone whould own a Mac. If you like Windows, just stick with it. But claiming that Macs have this and that shortcoming out of pure jealousy is as bad as being a Mac fanboy, if not worse. A good example is Kiran_tech_mania's claim that Macs crash more than Windows. Ha! Ha! And pigs fly.

Yes, I love Apple and its products a lot but I am NOT the fanboy that some people make me out to be. I hated their comment blaming Windows for the iPod virus, I think it is a very good point against Macs that they cannot be upgraded. I also think the iPods are not as good as their sales indicate. I think Microsoft's Zune is a very serious competitor. There are other areas where Macs lack too, but there aren't too many.
But yes, in the end I do believe with utter conviction that whatever the drawbacks, Macs are certainly hugely better than Windows PCs. And I also believe that if you are buying a notebook in the range of sixty thousand and above, there is no reason not to buy an Apple product.

Originally Posted by blackpearl

And aryayush, you don't have to be one of them. Just use your Mac, don't start singing in its praise.

If people feel it appropriate to start threads with titles like "I hate Macs!!", I feel that I am fairly within my rights to defend the platform which I love.
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Originally Posted by tarey_g

I feel like vomitting after reading rubbish comments again and again. :ewwwww:

If you feel like vomiting ever time you see a dog, why not stop peeping inside kennels?
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Originally Posted by blackpearl

On a funnier note, read these

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Windows

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Mac

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Linux

Spend some time on that website reading other articles. All are hilarious.

Thanks for the links!

[Lucky_star]

Aryayush, Man, are you a lawyer??
I have spent the last 10 minutes reading your previous post. I feel like Apple should hire you as their defence lawyer. I am sure you can save the company when a similar situation arises with them.

[aryayush]

Originally Posted by gx_saurav

Lolz....first decide what u want to say, you always get pawned & still you come back with same old reasons. Macs do crash, they hang for no reason, & if the file is in use, it gets deleted too.....wake up, this does happens

This from a person who has never used Mac OS X and has exactly zero amount of information about Macintoshes. Yeah, I can see why we should take your word on this one!

"if the file is in use, it gets deleted too" - Are you sure that by in use you do not mean that you right-clicked on it and clicked on "Move to Trash"? Because that is not a bug, that is standard behaviour for getting rid of unwanted files. Now, if you expected that it wouldn't be deleted even after you tried to - well, I am sorry, you need to use a Windows machine for achieving that. Macs have this severe problem, they do what you ask them to. They don't have any opinions of their own. Crap!

[eddie]

Originally Posted by aryayush

But people's devotion to Macs is justified to a large extent because they ARE such fabulous machines.

Aren't you the one who believed that he had an Intel supplied hard drive? I could be confusing you for someone else though...

[aryayush]

Yeah, I am. I did not believe I had an Intel supplied hard drive, I thought I had an Intel hard drive. Of course, I was very confused because I know Intel does not manufacture hard drives.

[EagerBeaver]

Look wat dis guy s saying......... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16873608/
Another Mac user switches to Vista-------------------Say something critical about Microsoft and Windows and no one bats an eyelash. But write anything even faintly judgmental about the Macintosh and in comes a flood of hate mail from Mac users. The worst part is the tone of most, which generally tend toward religious zealotry. So before I begin, let me begin by saying any e-mails of that type that are sent in response to this story will be deleted, with no reply.
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So are all Mac users uppity and sensitiv about their Mac. Why Sir ? When then will MacBoys becom MacMen ???????????????????????????????

[aryayush]

Mac fanboys are no reason to dislike the Mac platform.

In fact, no one actually does dislike it. Those who claim they do are hypocrites.

[Ankur Gupta]

Well if Mac is such a good operating system without any flaws then why isn't the whole world migrating towards it???

[Kiran.dks]

Windows XP is definetly stable than OS X. You clearly showed the fanboyism here arguing to everyone out here. You need a proof? You say that you went through many forums. Well, if you really did so, you would have never quoted it. Don't throw blind shots here. Use google and find it out yourself what people say about WindowsXP, Windows 9X, OS9...etc. And if you are lazy to do that, tell me I will do that for you! And before deciding pigs fly, I suggest you to fly out of your dream Mac world and sneak into 'real' world.