Ganguly in line for recall

[aryayush]

India's stuttering form in the one-day arena may have an unlikely beneficiary: Sourav Ganguly is in line for a recall to the Test side, nine months after he was jettisoned followed the resounding 341-run defeat at Karachi.

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[wizrulz]

Selection was on 30th ...how u know before???

SOURCE PLEASE

[LegendKiller]

Well he's correct,"Aaj Tak" is airing this "sick" news at the moment..well i think if he gets elected india will enter the match with a wicket down in the form of ganguly..
So when india bats in the test,u will se the score 0 for loss of 1 wicket.As we all know our gr8 dada's pedigree against the short-ball.

[aryayush]

I made a slight mistake and have edited the post accordingly. Sorry for the goof up!
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Yeah, I saw it on Aaj Tak and posted it. Then I checked it on the web and found that it wasn't official yet.

[outlaw]

cricket is a team sport , 1 player cant possibly change the scenario , it requires something called team spirit

[aryayush]

I have never liked Ganguly but I have this feeling that his returning will change the team's fortunes. This South Africa series is doomed though. India cannot do anything without Dravid, not in a Test series.

[LegendKiller]

How can ganguly change the fortunes of indian team?? i don't how can you select a player who has performed miserably since 2003 both in international matches and in domestic for last 1.5 years...

Everyone knows that he cannot play short-pitch balling and is a walking-wicket these days..

But,it might just shut-up his fans when he fails to get even a double-digit score in series..

[aryayush]

As I already mentioned, I do not like Ganguly and was very pleased when he was thrown out, but I just have this feeling. Of course, it may be totally wrong.

[LegendKiller]

he may not be re-called,coz now the media have started saying that he "maybe re-called"...
I remember b4 we were going to WI,media had said that ganguly has cleared his differences with selection committee and will be selected..

I hope they are wrong once again..

[caleb]

If he does get re-called it MUST be based only on his performance in the domestic level first...just like the Aussies did with Shane Warne & Brett Lee...if Sourav can't even fare well at domestic level, there is no use in brining him back especailly to a place like South Africa...coz he ain't absolutely no good with the bouncy pitches & rising deliveries.

[sandy453]

Times now is telling that this is a rumor .I dont know why so many people from media are vouching for him to comeback .India a lot better players than ganguly .They dont get a chance .When they are spending so much on cricketers the criteria for selection should be purely on performance.we dont anyone who scores century in one full moon be it ganguly or shewag or any other player for that matter.
These guys are more busy in shooting ads than practising .It happened with sourav ,its now the same with rahul.stop all adversting then see how they play .

[overclocker]

Originally Posted by outlaw

cricket is a team sport , 1 player cant possibly change the scenario , it requires something called team spirit

But now as time passes the scenario of Indian cricket team is getting lamentable.

[kumarmohit]

Originally Posted by Indyan

Thats impossible, as Ganguly isnt an opener.

Anyway, I would be glad to see him back. He was dropped under unfortunate circumstances due to political reasons.

Totally Agree

[kl_ravi]

Just for the sake of record ....

Poor old ganguly is getting much worst treatment than Match Fixer like Azharuddin ... God knows how many matches we lost to Pakistan under his captaincy ....

Just mention Ganguly's name.... people will start to train their guns on him!!! Poor old chap...

During his good old days ... Slow Left Arm bowlers like Daniel Vettori & Niki Boje had nightmares of Ganguly coming down the wickets....

[LegendKiller]

Originally Posted by kl_ravi

Just for the sake of record ....

Poor old ganguly is getting much worst treatment than Match Fixer like Azharuddin ... God knows how many matches we lost to Pakistan under his captaincy ....

Just mention Ganguly's name.... people will start to train their guns on him!!! Poor old chap...

During his good old days ... Slow Left Arm bowlers like Daniel Vettori & Niki Boje had nightmares of Ganguly coming down the wickets....

ur wrong their buddy,i have hardly seen anybody criticising dada on tv..on the contrary dravid/chappell/sachin have wrongly criticised without any reason..by dada's sympathizers in the media
@Indyan
I think you took my phrase literally..u need to understand the thought behind it..i meant india will go to bat with a wicket-down since dada will easy to out..

[caleb]

Although I do not support that Sourav should be called back in his present form I still say that Sourav is a MUCH BETTER player than some of the team members in the present Indian cricket team touring South Africa. Plus Sourav also has the agressiveness that our current team lacks.

[abhijit_reddevil]

Originally Posted by Indyan

Sachin : yes. He is a great player and I am sure he will get back in form. But Chappel and Dravid deserve every bit ot critisizm they are getting. They tried their politics and ruined every thing. The team selection is just nuts.
Gautam Gambhir did well last season. They picked Jaffar over him.
They ignored VVS and Saurav and are now sending Dinesh Kartik as a batsman! They ignored Kumble for no good reason for months. That certainly cost us a few matches. In Champions trophy, they played against teams comfortable against fast bowling with only 1 specialised spinner.

If you analyse the team selection during last 1 year you will see that it has been really nonsense stuff.

Example of a great player: failed yet again yesterday ...scoring only 1.

[LegendKiller]

Originally Posted by digitized

Example of a great player: failed yet again yesterday ...scoring only 1.

I think one can only be envious of ur cricketing knowledge and ur judging skills...

But if you judge a player on his performance in couple of matches,than plzz remind urself that dada's last 2 odi centuries have come way back in feb-2003 that too against kenya...
Than what abt rest of 2003,04,05 ?????
dada has scored just 1 century in last 12months of domestic cricket...

So if we were to judge dada by ur yardstick than he should have retired a long-ago and not coming back by doing politics..

Also i undertsnad that your a bengali and will support him even if he gets 0's in next 50 inngs,so plz we can discuss matters with people with open-minds and not with "pea" brains like u guys..
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if a non-performer like dada canbe supported and canbe called good player than plzz..even pathan can be called a "top-order" batsman,going by your standards..

[aryayush]

What, Pathan IS a "top-order" batsman, isn't he!

[LegendKiller]

Originally Posted by aryayush

What, Pathan IS a "top-order" batsman, isn't he!

no he is a bowler who can bat,but u read my post clearly,i said by digitized's standard of judging a player...not mine..

[paul_007]

finally there is a ray of hope 4 ganguly..

[royal]

for all supporters of Sachin...dont you think he is well past his prime?
he has been a great player, no doubt, but how many times has he delivered in times of need?
And inspite of being a "bengali", I dont think dada can make any significant difference. Maybe he can boost the morale of the team, not much more.IMHO, both dada and sachin should be kept out of the team for a while.However the tragedy is that while dada has to prove himself , Sachin can enjoy a permanent seat in the team as long as he wishes, with everybody eagerly awating the next "miracle" he will perform, even if it takes another 50 matches to do so...
Sorry if I have hurt sentiment of fellow digitians...I have only said what I felt is true. I will be very happy if Sachin can take an active part in "Team India"'s recovery .

[abhijit_reddevil]

Sachin's scores in the last 14 test innings (thanks to cricinfo for all these stats):

23, 19, DNB, -, DNB, -, 14, DNB, 23, 26, 16, 28*, 4, DNB, 1, 34.

Now I am not finding a 50...? Can anyone find it?

And Royal (jokes apart): thanks, you are bang on target at least on one point. The tragedy is that in spite of having a similar form in tests, Dada has to prove himself in domestic cricket whereas Sachin is still going on in the first team. And when I say the hard truth, many people here are offended and take the case as a direct biased attack on Bengal and Bengalees. I am just holding up the facts and telling what I feel. I also feel that in spite of these statistics which everyone can see, people are afraid to drop the once God of Indian cricket (till 2004-05 season, not now). He was also my cricketing hero. But once people started hurting the local community sentiments combined with Sachin's drastic fall from the peak, I have started hating Sachin and expressing my opinions in the fag end of 2006 when I could have started this as well in 2005 during the SG-GC spat.

Post edit: Just in, Ganguly recalled to test side. source: www.rediff.com, www.cricinfo.com

Hooray

[LegendKiller]

thank god,now finally "Sorrow's" supporters will stop crying in public...

And also CPI-M has done it again for sourav..otherwise everyone knows dada's prowess against short-pitched bowling..

Digitized really makes me laugh nowadays,he never comments,sheepishly,on the fact that ganguly hasn't scored a century against any major team in last 3 years....

His last odi century against a major team(england) came in 2002
His last test century against a major team(AUS) came in 2003...

So digitized and fellow dada fans plzzz comment on the above point...

A player who hasn't scored an odi century for 4 years against a major team is being called???
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Originally Posted by digitized

Sachin's scores in the last 14 test innings (thanks to cricinfo for all these stats):

23, 19, DNB, -, DNB, -, 14, DNB, 23, 26, 16, 28*, 4, DNB, 1, 34.

Now I am not finding a 50...? Can anyone find it?

And Royal (jokes apart): thanks, you are bang on target at least on one point. The tragedy is that in spite of having a similar form in tests, Dada has to prove himself in domestic cricket whereas Sachin is still going on in the first team. And when I say the hard truth, many people here are offended and take the case as a direct biased attack on Bengal and Bengalees. I am just holding up the facts and telling what I feel. I also feel that in spite of these statistics which everyone can see, people are afraid to drop the once God of Indian cricket (till 2004-05 season, not now). He was also my cricketing hero. But once people started hurting the local community sentiments combined with Sachin's drastic fall from the peak, I have started hating Sachin and expressing my opinions in the fag end of 2006 when I could have started this as well in 2005 during the SG-GC spat.

Post edit: Just in, Ganguly recalled to test side. source: www.rediff.com, www.cricinfo.com

Hooray

Also,u have clearly stated that u dis-like sachin,not because of performance,but because of saurav's exclusion..

And what did ya say??? attack on local community???---look who's talking?

Indian team was booed just b'coz of a "deadwood" like gone-guly(or ganguly if u like)....

Was that fair?? being boooed in front of foreigners....isn't that being a traitor?

Also sunny boy do comment on points i raised above,dada in-ability to score against major sides for good 3yrs...

[overclocker]

Who said that evey Bengali supports Saurav Ganguly even if he gets 0's in next 50 inngs, yes I being a bengali also think that if Saurav ganguly does not score in Domestic level cricket should not get him a chance in Inetrnational cricket.. my favourite player is Rahul Dravid but if u ask me who is my fav skipper then obviously Sourav Ganguly in that platform Rahul Dravid is far behind from him.. bcz captency is not a similar job like batting u need a lot of mentally ability or ability to take lots of mentaly pressure.. ability to right judgement in a crutial moment..to encourage the game spirit among the player.. potentiality to lead the team.. if u successfully do this job then u getting success but for Rahul dravid we can see totally different nd don't mind he has not such kind of ability..also he depends on Greg Chappel much more than himself to take any dicission..but now my headache is the poor performance of Indian cricket team not Saurav Gan.. if Rahul Dravid does not take any dicission on judgement of himself if he always depends on Greg Chappel or does not achive this area.. it is not a good sign for future of Indian cricket team nd also his captency...otherwise it may be said that the same scenario would be waiting for him like S.G.

[abhijit_reddevil]

Originally Posted by LegendKiller

thank god,now finally "Sorrow's" supporters will stop crying in public...

And also CPI-M has done it again for sourav..otherwise everyone knows dada's prowess against short-pitched bowling..

Digitized really makes me laugh nowadays,he never comments,sheepishly,on the fact that ganguly hasn't scored a century against any major team in last 3 years....

His last odi century against a major team(england) came in 2002
His last test century against a major team(AUS) came in 2003...

So digitized and fellow dada fans plzzz comment on the above point...

A player who hasn't scored an odi century for 4 years against a major team is being called???
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Also,u have clearly stated that u dis-like sachin,not because of performance,but because of saurav's exclusion..

And what did ya say??? attack on local community???---look who's talking?

Indian team was booed just b'coz of a "deadwood" like gone-guly(or ganguly if u like)....

Was that fair?? being boooed in front of foreigners....isn't that being a traitor?

Also sunny boy do comment on points i raised above,dada in-ability to score against major sides for good 3yrs...

This post really proves that I have hit the nail on the head. There are few people here who can accept the harsh truth. Instead of questioning Dada's form, first I want an answer to Sachin's poor form (proof in terms of stats in wa my previous post) in the last 1 1/2 years and the justification why he will he be in the team in spite of not so good form?

[soham]

For all you Saurav haters, I know Ganguly might not be the great player he was in the past and he might not perform well in South Africa. But find atleast 11 players who are playing better than him and are currently in team and then I will surely agree that Saurav should be left out.
By the way All the best to Dada.

[kl_ravi]

Originally Posted by LegendKiller

ur wrong their buddy,i have hardly seen anybody criticising dada on tv..on the contrary dravid/chappell/sachin have wrongly criticised without any reason..by dada's sympathizers in the media..

Didn't Chappel Himself criticise Ganguly ??
Didn't he even sent an E-Mail to BCCI & Media ...

For the time being forget Dravid, Ganguly, Tendullkar etc....
First let us find out what the problem is ....second, let us attack the root cause of the problem not persons A,B,C,D or E....
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All I wanted to say that Ganguly has been a victim of people with vested interests.....

Even Kapil Dev or Ravi Shastri used to have poor batting averages during their cricketing days. So much so that Ravi Shastri once featured on ZEE Tv's Aap Ki Adalat & he was grilled by Rajat sharma, Host of that program.

Sunil Gavaskar bats right through 60 overs for his 36 Notout .... These are the same experts giving their expert views on the Indian Cricket !!!

When India used to loose matches during Shastri-Gavaskar days, there was not such an outcry but when the current team fails, all expert analysis kicks in !!! This is what I am talking about.

At times there was too much dependancy on Tendulkar. If he was out, India would loose.

In the 90's a group of Youngsters (Dravid, Ganguly, Lakshman, Javagal Srinath & Anil Kumble) joined the party and upped the standards of Indian Cricket. [This is what I want to stress] They ensured that even if tendulkar was out, it was not the end as one or the other used to fire.....

Once these "youngsters" became old (Some of them retired) and BCCI could not find suitable replacements, Indian cricket went back to Square One !!! That's it.

Now it is upto youngsters like, Patan, Zaheer, Sreesanth, Dhoni, Raina, Kaif, Yuvraj to steady the ship & up the standards....

These people are not having same instinct which Dravid, Ganguly, Lakshman, Srinath or kumble had in their younger days. That is the root cause for all this failures.

PS:-- Why is this topic in random news? This should be moved into fight club!!

[LegendKiller]

Originally Posted by digitized

This post really proves that I have hit the nail on the head. There are few people here who can accept the harsh truth. Instead of questioning Dada's form, first I want an answer to Sachin's poor form (proof in terms of stats in wa my previous post) in the last 1 1/2 years and the justification why he will he be in the team in spite of not so good form?

How can you question sachin's form when dada himself hasn't scored a century in 3 years...
Are you a mentally in-capable to see a situation properly??

It seems so,otherwise who can question sachin's form for a player who last scored a century in 2002?

Also it is very easy for you to pin-point others coz dada isn't playing intl. cricket...

[RaghuKL]

Ctrl + C Ctr + v ed from rediff.com
Sourav Ganguly on Thursday made a comeback to the Indian Test team after ten months for the three-match series against South Africa beginning on December 15.
The selectors also dropped Mohammad Kaif and Suresh Raina from the squad and removed out of form Virender Sehwag from vice-captaincy, which now goes to VVS Laxman.
The decision to recall Ganguly was taken by the national selectors, who, significantly, met Board of Control for Cricket in India President Sharad Pawar at his residence in New Delhi before their meeting to select the 16-member squad for the three-Test series against South Africa, beginning on December 15.
The Bengal left-hander, who has had reasonable success in domestic matches, was widely speculated to make it to the team after the relatively inexperienced Indian side struggled on fast-paced South African tracks to suffer one humiliating defeat after another.
Ganguly comes in the place of an injured Yuvraj Singh in the middle order while Zaheer Khan was rewarded for his show in the one-dayers with a Test berth.
Team: Rahul Dravid (captain), Wasim Jaffer, Gautam Gambhir, Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly, Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wicketkeeper), VVS Laxman (vice-captain), Dinesh Kaarthick, Harbhajan Singh, Anil Kumble, Munaf Patel, Irfan Pathan, VRV Singh, Zaheer Khan and S Sreesanth.