*** Science Or God? ***

[doomgiver]

i'll try to answer tomorrow. you pick a bad time to post :/

[mediator]

@Rishabh :

You are wasting your time here. There was a reason why Vedic knowledge was imparted only to the eligible ones. Through meditation also one can experience of what we know as the ultimate reality. But reading the scriptures can have both negative and positive effects. It can help one understand the ultimate truth and one can become too egotistical about it. Some people are presumptuous about it and some are busy tagging it as "monotheism or polytheism". Some think ancient is equivalent to outdated and unscientific (and crap ) and some think modern is better. Some even have the audacity to fall into the traps of western missionaries to call the Vedic knowledge as religion and then use the same tag for their own motives based on presumptions and tags based on the terminologies they themselves dislike.

Please read Kena and Other Upanishads by Sri Aurobindo

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Other nations are promoting sanskrit to know Vedas, some Indians are trying to figure out energy resources through Vedic knowledge, but then there are those who have never even read the shrutis, but still are busy tagging,concluding,judging,assuming based on abrahamic conditioning of "god" and "modern material understanding" of science. Higher than these is still another category which further judges the Veda from the 'critics sites' and superficialities happening in the society, where we often land up on the forums of Zakir Naik .

And, From that distorted and reduced framework, they are busy abusing and further degrading the Indian literature which had been represented often in forms of metaphor and riddles. I guess they would make a mockery even of the Kena Upanishad where the whole scripture is written in the form of a riddle. Max Muller Syndrome is what they are suffering from!

Earlier, when a child was born, he/she used to sleep beside the mother and now we have western conception where the new born child is made to sleep separately and often given in the hands of strange and unknown faces called 'baby sitters' without even empathising on the effects it has on the child!

[doomgiver]

Originally Posted by mediator

Earlier, when a child was born, he/she used to sleep beside the mother and now we have western conception where the new born child is made to sleep separately and often given in the hands of strange and unknown faces called 'baby sitters' without even empathising on the effects it has on the child!

as i said, the whole culture is being force-fed intravenously to dogs

[Anorion]

^yes, vedism and Hinduism are both tags, un umbrella term for a wide range of umm.. vidya, totally legit btw, there was always freedom to pursue your own natural beliefs, and many hindu/vedic schools were based on atheism, rejecting rituals, and many other so called "modern" ideas

its just our way of life, find a guru and follow his/her teachings

[Anish]

Originally Posted by Anorion

^yes, vedism and Hinduism are both tags, un umbrella term for a wide range of umm.. vidya, totally legit btw, there was always freedom to pursue your own natural beliefs, and many hindu/vedic schools were based on atheism, rejecting rituals, and many other so called "modern" ideas

its just our way of life, find a guru and follow his/her teachings

^^yeah.. I agree with this troll (you are promoted to level 13 )
Just live your own way of life (which you like) as long as it doesn't hurt others (I mean the human community) and of-course yourself. Why do people tie themselves to those hard rituals I wonder!!!
Four choices:
1. Don't care about God, (if god exists, as Achilles said: the gods envy us!) Live your own way of life with your own principles of humanity. (I fall here)
2. Fear for the existence of god - he is watching you when you are out with your GF
3. Atheism
4. Research whether god exists - Break your head until your precious spills out your entire room and at-last you come to know that you've wasted you life.

Most of the curious sapiens are of the fourth category.

[Monk]

Religion for me is mere traffic rules, US has specific traffic rules. India has different traffic rules, same applies with all other countries/communities.
But no traffic rule is greater than one and other (That's what people are fighting for). You have set of instructions to follow, to make a civil society and you call it 'Religion'.

"Religion is for human, not vice-versa"

"There is no God, but Godliness"

[doomgiver]

Originally Posted by Monk

Religion for me is mere traffic rules, US has specific traffic rules. India has different traffic rules, same applies with all other countries/communities.
But no traffic rule is greater than one and other (That's what people are fighting for). You have set of instructions to follow, to make a civil society and you call it 'Religion'.

OHOHOHOHOHO!!!!

i LOVE it when a newb necro's this thread!!!

yeah, all those "rules" are just in place so that a few profit off the many.
i dont follow the rules, hence, i am that person who overthrows tyrants and "restores" "order" upon the world.

choke on it.