*** Science Or God? ***

[planetcall]

^^^ Naveen_reloaded, In this thread , there already have been written many evidences to prove the reality of the epics which you are thinking to be myth. The believe in myth you talking has already been answered by many others before in this thread. I would like if you could reply to those facts and logics instead of just putting what already has been nullified by logic.

[mihirvashist]

science is my choice....who has ever seen god in the first place

[Arsenal_Gunners]

superstitions lol

[planetcall]

Mihir, My question to you is to interpret GOD. Do it here and let me know what you mean by your remark there. An orphan has not seen his mother. Surely, he was born without a mother, isnt it ? Take time to go through all the posts in this thread.

Vimal_mehrotra, you are a Fresh Stock. Learn how not to SH[I]T around.

[caleb]

Scinece is a witness to the existence of God in everything that we see & discover...so how can I choose science over God?

Do not take offense...but believing ONLY in science, for me, is like beng the Businessman in the story below:

"Ah, the simple life!"

An American businessman was at the pier of a small Mexican coastal village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the boat were several large yellow fin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, “Only a little while.”

The American then asked why he didn't stay out longer and catch more fish.

The fisherman said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

The American then asked, “But what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siesta with my wife Maria. Then I stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life, señor.”

The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and I could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats. Eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles, and eventually New York City where you would run your expanding enterprise.”

The fisherman asked, “But señor, how long will this all take?”

”Fifteen or twenty years.”

“But what then, señor?”

The American laughed and said, “That's the best part. When the time is right you would sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You would make millions.”

“Millions, señor? Then what?”

The American said, “Then you would retire and move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your grandchildren, take siesta with your wife Maria, and stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”

[faraaz]

^^ - Agree completely!

[planetcall]

Caleb, truly said buddy. It all depends on one's interpretation of GOD. I don't see science being distinct from God itself. I need not emphasize much as it is posted already by me in this thread.

[mihirvashist]

Originally Posted by planetcall

Mihir, My question to you is to interpret GOD. Do it here and let me know what you mean by your remark there. An orphan has not seen his mother. Surely, he was born without a mother, isnt it ? Take time to go through all the posts in this thread.

Vimal_mehrotra, you are a Fresh Stock. Learn how not to SH[i]T around.

i didn't want 2 hurt anybody's feelings but still it is something i can't explain ...even if there is god i don't trust him ...i don't know why or maybe i know but can't express

[Aberforth]

Originally Posted by tuxfan

Atheists haven't studied religion, how do they know whether its good or bad? So it is an assumption that religion is not scientific!

Do you really think so? I am an Atheist and I studied every religious book I can get hold of. Buddhism is the only religion which does not discriminate against science nor encourage it.

It is ironic, scientists don't need to explain science to relate with religion but religion needs to explain religion to fit science. Humans tend to rationalize and ultimately prove what they want to believe even if its illogical when you try to simplify. Heck I can prove Lord of The Rings is the word of God if I really want to.

Science or God?

This sentence need to be reformulated to:
"G". God ?
"N". No God ?
&
"I". "No Science" (or science is an illusion) ?
"C". "Created Science" ?
"F". "Forever Pre-Existed Science" ?

And now, the right question is which of following combinations is right: "G"-"I", "G"-"C", "G"-"F", "N"-"I", "N"-"C", and "N"-"F"?

Moreover, Since the science we know in our days is not able to prove with physical evidences neither "A" nor "B" is the truth, Science need not to be comparable with God in the form of only "Science or God?"...

The science (we know) is too convincing due to our every day (material) needs. While, our soul is kind of too convinced that there is something out there (maybe a non-material) God.

So, the question could be rather:
- Does science (we know) be able to/will prove the existing/non-existing of God?
Or even maybe,
- Which one does science (we know) favor more: God or No God?

But, does it not look like if we are using something (such as science) based on our knowledge to prove something beyond our knowledge?

If God does exist based on the our actual reality, there is only his signs in this world that can be seen and interpreted, but not God HIMSelf.

[planetcall]

Aberforth, there are a few credible scientific explanations already given here in this thread in support of the existence of almighty. I would like you to apply your logic against them.

[fatguysmart]

God for Me!
Science in its place and God at a place above it!

[eagle_y2j]

God rule.............................................. .........................

[Shikher_neo]

Well I have a lot to say in this regard but it would better be iteractive.
So do notmind posting anything in this regard even via private messages.
I think we need both religion as well as science to survive.God for spiritual power and science for temporal.But if talked about a choice both of them lead to the same ultimate junction-God.Whether its the Big Bang or the genesis,T the place we finall y look for ig is God.Recent discoveries at CERN in Switzerland show that even after a significant revealation we find that God is indispensable whether you talk about creation of the uinverse in Scientific or in Religious parlance.
That is enough for now i guess.
Bye

[sre06]

answer of this question only can give a person named einstain
go and ask his theory of relativity where he say matter is wave and wave is matter so we cant see god

[keves2002]

my vote goes 2 GOD

[dOm1naTOr]

Can anyone explain the science behind will power or mind power. I mean have u seen someone bending a spoon or similar things with pure mind power??

Is there any science behind it?
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Is there any scientific explanation for hipnotisn, pranic healing or rayki? i dun think so. But these are accepted worldwide nd needs no proof for its existance.

[baccilus]

God is the science behind science. It can't be seen, or felt by the 5 senses we have. It's difficult to believe in God because man doesn't believe in what he can't see, hear or feel. But the only way to know God is through faith and belief.

[dOm1naTOr]

@koolbluez
cool story man...keep up.

[NIGHTMARE]

GOD IS MAIN COMPUTER AND WE R A COMPONENT AND WORLD NEVER SHUTDOWN ONLY GOD HAVING AUTHORITY TO CHANGE OS OR FORMAT EARTH HARD DISK HE MAKE NEW PROGRAM AND WHEN HE WANTS TO OR CHANGE HE CAN DO VERY EASILY NO BODY CAN STOP HIM OR SCIENCE.


MY VOTE GOES FOR GOD.

[naveen_reloaded]

Originally Posted by NIGHTMARE

GOD IS MAIN COMPUTER AND WE R A COMPONENT AND WORLD NEVER SHUTDOWN ONLY GOD HAVING AUTHORITY TO CHANGE OS OR FORMAT EARTH HARD DISK HE MAKE NEW PROGRAM AND WHEN HE WANTS TO OR CHANGE HE CAN DO VERY EASILY NO BODY CAN STOP HIM OR SCIENCE.


MY VOTE GOES FOR GOD.

thaat was funny....

good imagination

[Lucky_star]

Originally Posted by baccilus

God is the science behind science. It can't be seen, or felt by the 5 senses we have. It's difficult to believe in God because man doesn't believe in what he can't see, hear or feel. But the only way to know God is through faith and belief.

^^I agree to that

[planetcall]

^^ I disagree to that.
You can establish the existence of almighty through logic and reasoning as well. I and a few others have already done that in this thread.

[rajasekharan]

Belief of god and path of science is required for a proper living . One cannot survive with out other . Too much god has created religion "the pure cause of war if wrongly used ". And science "nuclear weapons " a disaster if used wrong .both cannot survive with out another . We need scientist to get relief from religion and vice versa .we need both .

[debasish]

I believe that the the whole god thing is xplained very well by the matrix! infact matrix is the scientific explanation of the existence of god

[rajasekharan]

i have not watched matrix....just watched part 1 ....did not like it.....skipped all..., i liked LOTR far more ...in case of trilogy ...

[caleb]

God

[Bancho]

where god man? everything is science

[Kniwor]

Who's this god anyway? so much fuzz about him? never seen the fella on TV or something!!!

Does he have a blog I can visit, his homepage?

[Vyasram]

Science coz i blive there's no such thing as god.

I Kinda laugh when ppl think of earth being created in six days, puranas, greek mythology......

Originally Posted by aravind_n20

Can anyone explain the science behind will power or mind power. I mean have u seen someone bending a spoon or similar things with pure mind power??

Is there any science behind it?

lolz, everything u've asked have science behind them. Use wikipedia for hypnotism, pranic healing,

reg mind power
itz all nerves, impulses, hormones....... though we haven't understood them fully, we are learning that scientifically day by day

if someone blives in god, it acts as a psychological boost for him in his every activity and helps him, he also follows a principle of not doing wrong things, but some a$$holes use the same reason for doing wrong things with the belief that they can always ask for pardon from God ( most bigshots are like that these days)

religion and god were created by sages/pphilosophers for the above said purpose, to help humans...... but that's not the case today, religions are slowly becoming the pathway to destruction with some ppl being biased to ppl of their own religion

Originally Posted by mediator

There's a good saying "God helps those who help themselves" ! I don't believe in god n the quote directly means "That we shud help ourselves instead of relying on God" ! God is a fictitious character for me and we pray to him only to get our innards awakened!
As far as religion is concerned that was discussed long time back. Neways for me religion means spirituality + pieces of wisdom ! Speaking of ghosts is beyond my thinking!

good post

for me religion = pieces of wisdom

Originally Posted by zegulas

See dude, as far as you will believe in God, you won't be able to find the truth, just for the sake of finding the truth behind everything, try this, don't believe in God for one day and see what happens. I am preety sure nothing different will happen, because even I believe in Science, because it can explain things and the idea of God (created everything), is just like a curtain put in front of your eyes, to keep you away from the reality.

the best post in the thread. wud help u save 5-15 mins a day on an average
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Originally Posted by cyberscirber

Our own indians also said that something is eating the moon and sun during eclipses ( and probably sh***ing after that ). Dont tell this to Americans, they'll laugh at us even more.

seems like americans didnt exist back then. Many americans blive in ghosts than indians do even now(see such progs in natgeo/star world), i'll die laughing if i watch that one more time. Superstitions exitst in every religion and every civilization.

but everyone civilization i know of ( except some african ones) follow the superstition called Godism
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Originally Posted by sanddy

ofcourse "GOD" else neither u would have been there nor i

wow, there's no god, and i''m here safe and sound ...... dunno abt u