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| My destiny is fixed. I can't change it. |
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11 | 34.38% |
| WTF is destiny? |
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17 | 53.13% |
| I fear to talk about it. |
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4 | 12.50% |
| Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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I choose NO. If all my actions were governed by destiny then whatever I do is already defined. This means I have no bounds in my life, I may kill anyone and this is predefined so I will not be thrown in hell. But then its said that God knows everything and you'll be held responsible, for whatever you do, in the courts of the almighty. If God already judged my future then why should I suffer? Last edited by SE><IE; 08-10-2006 at 09:40 PM. |
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String Phreak
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Destiny and luck are 2 different things! I believe its upto us to write our destiny and the rest is all upto luck! In an exam only u can write ur paper superbly or badly. Even if u write it superbly then also u may pass marginaly, even if u perform badly u may score well. It depends on the mood of examiner or u can say ur luck!!
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yeah! I kinda created it a bit foggy in the name. its destiny actually.
Anyways I feel whatever is unknown to us we name it as luck. does this luck thing even exist? The examiner gave me really bad marks because of his mood not because of anything even remotly related with me. I wanna know about the feelings about destiny not luck. |
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Ya! I believe in destiny & as I think it's just 50-50, means 50% is governed by destiny & rest 50% is related with my actions. OK, I accept that, U r responsible 4 ur steps but do u ever think, whenever U hurt someone, what makes U to say sorry to him/her? Many emotions, feelings, thoughts r governed by destiny & force U to take/make an action. That's how, Ur destiny governs U. I have much to share on this topic but it will b much better to collect little response from everyone, since it will not change ur thoughts coz they r governed by ur destiny.
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^^ agreed
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^^^ Exactly...!!! I believe in destiny. But every action of yours will influence your destiny... Each one of us decides our own fate, and most of the times it occurs at a subconscious level.
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I had chosed the first answer but I am damm sure that I had got a wondeful destiny
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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I believe in destiny. A lot of things have happened in my life which makes me believe in it. Some good, some bad but they have all played their part. I do not sit in the corner of the room with folded hands and wait for things to happen. I do the best I can and results are something which is not in my hands. They just happen and that is what I term destiny.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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@Kalpik, do you think you are in control of your life?? Then why do you fall sick? Why were you born? Can you stop your death? These are just examples. But there are so many things about your life that you can't control! And I don't like to believe that this world is running without anyone "moderating" it
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Wise Old Owl
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Yes, I believe in destiny. No, one can't control one's destiny. What's going to happen, is going to
happen for sure.The major events in your life - like birth, some complex situations in your life, death you can't change!! Because that's your destiny. The theory of Karma says that whatever Good or Bad you do, defintely you'll have to face the consequences of your action. Some people are born rich, some poor, some very sickly. It's as per one's fate or destiny. God governs the life of all living things. And @Tuxfan has a very valid point. I totally agree with him.
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String Phreak
Join Date: Mar 2005
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GITA sloka : "KArmaneya vadikaraste ma faleshu kadachana, ma karm heturburma, abhytanaste adi karmani" means just do ur work without thinking nething else either for luck or whateva
Its an old saying "God help the ones who helps themselves"! So I just believe in myself !
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@tuxfan , Jguru: The bloody body of flesh is bound to fall sick, like evrything else what abut your car? If you car gets damaged then was it written in its destiny? Did God wrote destiny of the car -"here you go, you get your headlights broken on friday 14th november" huh? Everything that starts has an end and just like evrything else the body also has a "start" and an "end" so the question of why we were born or die is dead here itself.
Its like asking why does the mouse get manufactured and why doesn't it keep functioning for always? Everything has a working limit. Quote:
What if I kill someone? If that was written in my destiny then there is nothing like 'showing up of my deeds'.Who am I to blame then. And if it wasn't pre-written then well, the destiny doesn't exist. @satyamy: d00d, I never said I don't believe in God. If I don't then I will feel lonely in those hard moments. I just said, I don't believe in my destiny. |
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SE><IE, Your current destiny (that's this present life of yours) is shaped by your
past life's karma( ie., what you did in your previous birth (good & bad)). And what you do in this current life (Karma - good & bad) will shape your next birth!! That's how it is. Also there is something called 'free-will'. By destiny you should understand is - the major events in your life - like birth, death, & other major events in your life (which you can't change). Also some minor events ( free-will), you can change!! I hope things are clear now. Also this is a complex subject. This is how God implements things!! It's already very well stated in Vedas.
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Join Date: May 2005
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Destiny or not.. I believe in slightly modified 90:10 rule.
tht 90% of the time your action influence your future and 10% is the fate. e.g some natural calamity, riots, or even a simple thing like train delay, flight delay happens. this you cannot control and are not even remotely related to you. However, they will affect your life such being late for a meeting or not able to reach some important place. These are 10% controllers in your life. But major controllers are in our hand.. they way we react in a situation affects the future events to follow. How you perform in a job interview, how you react to your friends mistake, how you react if someone bangs your car... such type of events will majorly define your future series of events.
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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I totally believe in desting. Everything that happens in our lives, happen for a cause. There is an entity that causes events to happen
Two books that i read that changed the way i think about these things:- Alchemist & Many Lives ,Many Masters
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"It's choice--not chance--that determines your destiny."
-Jean Nidetch “Destiny is no matter of chance. It is a matter of choice: It is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved.” -William Jennings “It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves.” -William Shakespeare Last edited by gaurav21r; 24-10-2006 at 05:52 PM. |
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Gaurav: What are you trying to suggest? those dont converge to one point of view, so they seem pretty much in general. Quotes just look nice on paper when quoted. As they say -Wise men make proverbs, fools quote and repeat them.
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@Sourabh: Dude i think they DO converge to one point, c'mon. The main point in the first two being that its our choices that shape our destiny.
Similarly the third one also implies that destiny is because of our actions and that it is not fixed, written somewhere. Our actions, our choices in life determine our destiny. I just thought giving a few quotes might present my views on this topic a lil more readable and express them better. Now that makes me a Fool ?!!??? |
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I misread the second one. No offence, do not take the proverb literally. I just played around with the quote to suggest the very thing you are saying - quoting and repeating a proverb doesnt mean much. It is your actions and choices that determine your destiny in life ( your point of view)
Destiny means different things to different people. Your understanding and belief about it doesnt exactly match with mine - which is what we are discussing isn't it? Again, it doesn't make you a fool. A few lines explaining them and putting your thoughts in words would make things more clear. What say?
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SUCCESS IS BY HARDWORK AND FAILURE BY DESTINY
Now for those who do not belive in destiny.......just answer these 1. Those who die in blasts, earthquakes, accidents(not due to there mistake)...they r at that place because of they control there life or DESTINY? 2. Few miss the flight and that crashes...then what is that they knew it before hand or DESTINY? There r so many instances..everthing in our life cannot be controlled by us. Else we would have had solution for everything...isnt it? Somethings happen in our life...irrespective of our actions.....and thats DESTINY....
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@Sourabh: Yea i understand ur pt of view. Many ppl share my pt of view and they have posted the same. So instead of another long essay of My views on Destiny i thought it would be simpler and more interesting to post a few quotes.
@wizrulz: Beg to differ. Your title doesn't really go with what u've written. Yes there may be something called 'destiny' but im a strong believer in the Karmic theory. You know, whatever u give to this world comes back many times multiplied... Its not really about 'controlling' your life. Moreof what you can get out of your life. Eg. Gandhiji's destiny was not getting assassinated but his destiny was to become The Mahatma, The Father of the Nation. This was so becoz of his choices/actions, more specifically giving up his practise in SA and returning to India. --Egs inspired by Gandhigiri |
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GUNNING DOWN TEAMS
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^^^^^^^^^^
Everything in life is not due to our actions. What i have given as heading is actually for students.... Y ai also believe in KARMA.....but then can anyone explain ...how some r born with silver spoon in mouth(born rich) and some in poorer family......thats has to be destiny, isnt it..or in other words KARMA of previous life ......
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