your views on prophet's cartoons

[dhawald]

first let me inform that I am a hindu
but I feel that whatever the europeans are doing(showing caricatures of prophet mohhemed) is wrong

those guys have been hankering about freedom of expression.

but i feel that etiquette,ethics and respect for others come above
freedom of expression.

what are your views on this.

[siriusb]

Whatever the cartoonist did, he did it on a private property (the newspaper). He can shout all kinds of non-sense in it coz he has free speech in his privae property. I don't know much about the prophet, but, if anything, the violence that followed only seems to lend legitimacy to the caricature.

One saying by Benjamin Franklin comes to mind: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"

Another (funny quote) from Dan Quayle comes to mind too: "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
Substitute clean air with free speech and tell me if it's not funny.

[__Virus__]

Certainly bad. No gain all pain.

[sujithtom]

according to me no probs. Its press. You can't say anything...

[rajas700]

There must be a limit.Being press they can do anything????Why they don't want to respect the people's religion???IF some one go against them how the f**k soughting???Like these felling dose the religion people don't have?????So i feel i must avoid in feature.

[paul_007]

i agree that printing photos of prophet was wrong but i think people r over reacting on this issue. for example demand for death penalty etc.

[netarget]

If we are to shout at the wrong doings of others, then, rest assured that we would die shouting.

One of the first points and maxim we learn at Jurispurdence in "IBI JUS UBI REMEDIUM" : which simply means, 'Where there is a right there is a remedy'.

Mass rallies, burning effigies, rioting or calling bandh are all a form of expressing protest. But it hurts all. Instead, there are other tactical and strategical methods to show your protest or overcome the libel.

[nix]

even if the cartoons were offensive, they should not go to the extreme of looking to kidnap danish people, threatening, publishing holocaust cartoons in retaliation etc....
hindu's never did it when we were offended. not to this murderous extent. due to the violence, the issue has only become bigger. senior muslim leaders should call for restraint and calm.

[siriusb]

Originally Posted by nix

hindu's never did it when we were offended. not to this murderous extent.

I remember seeing a video from desitorrent on hindutva (i think) violence in gujarat, so I think what you are saying can't be always be true.
As long as ther's religion, there'll be cause for violence (My God's larger than your God's). It's really funny though, as not one religion (islam included) suggest violence as teh answer.

[nix]

^^^
the cause for that incident was differnt. The same people would not react violently to offensive cartoons.
and you are not sure about it either.

[praka123]

West simply dont know about Islam and Arab Culture.They thought everything "cool".For eg; like the way they are viewing Christianity and the freedom offered by Christianity.U cannot expect this in other parts of the world. by putting prophet's cartoon they are surely gonna learn more about middle east and Quran.

[nishant_nms]

There's nothing bad it's a press act and they keep doing things like that. Even cartoons of hindu gods like that ganesh and others are created. But we Hindus never mind on such things so the muslims shouldn't.

[sujithtom]

LOL see all the violence on religions name. No two religion's idea mix perfectly even how much hard u try b'coz all these god thing was made by human at diffrent parts of the world who had diffrent ideolgies and culture. And all these religions started from culture of the society.

[tuXian]

This topic is not debatable,

thread may result into flames/abuses

mods lock it.

[kumarmohit]

I agree with tuxian
besides I dont think such matters are allowed here either

Originally Posted by netarget

One of the first points and maxim we learn at Jurispurdence in "IBI JUS UBI REMEDIUM" : which simply means, 'Where there is a right there is a remedy'.

Student of Law Are u???

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

It ws not right thats for sure.

But, the Muslims should also forgve the cartoonist. He might not have done this knowingly.

[led_shankar]

He did. I support him, but he did. It was in opposition to how an artist was prohibited from illustrating a children's book about Islam (not anti-Islamic) with drawings of the prophet (depicting the prophet pictorally is forbidden in Islam). It was done deliberately, therefore. Also, Hindus do take offence many a time though I have not heard of any of them demanding the death penalty). For example, the portraits of Hindu gods on footwear, tiffin boxes, etc.

[tuXian]

but, if anything, the violence that followed only seems to lend legitimacy to the caricature.

Can u elaborate on what did u mean by that......if this thread is locked then PM me with your reply.


How come this thread has been re-opened. I remeber Raaabo had already locked it.
Did anyone PM the mods with a valid reason...if yes can the mods let us know what that valid reason was.

Oh! got it opened with the introduction of a new section....well Fight club fights limited to technology is good but allowing such topics is a bad decision after all.

It will result in flames and abuses and the loser will be technology in due course.

[Zeeshan Quireshi]

well i think what the cartoonist did was wrong , but rioting will not do any good either , it'll hurt only you not the cartoonist .

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by Zeeshan Quireshi

well i think what the cartoonist did was wrong , but rioting will not do any good either , it'll hurt only you not the cartoonist .

I completely agree with u.After all every time common man have to pay for these kinds of behaviour.

[tuxfan]

Making a caricature of the prophet was an absolutely bad thing!! Should not have been done! But then in the same way, MF Hussain should also control himself and not draw pictures of nude hindu deities!

That Danish reporter and MFHussain both are idiots and they create controversy by their foolish acts!

[mAYHEM]

It was totally wrong,
That reporter should knows its against Islam.He took the feelings and faith of muslims for granted.

[Apollo]

This seems like a case of exaggeration, judging by the reaction. A war; that sounds insane! But having said that, if I were a devout Muslim and see an image of the Prophet 'misrepresented' in a daily, I wouldn't be amused one bit.

Freedom of Speech and autonomy of the Press is crucial, giving them the right to print and speak one's mind. But certainly the Press has an obligation towards the masses whereby it doesn't offend anyone and exercises its liberty with a good measure of caution.

I can recall one or two cases similar to this one where Hindu deities have been 'misrepresented' in various forms; mainly in the West. In fact, Hindu deity's images are rather prevalent in the genre of rock music. But the situation, I believe, never went off hand and turned into a crisis.

I guess Westerners should look more carefully at the religious and cultural significance behind the imagery, rather than just plainly opting for a religious imagery of some kind to make a statement.

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

Well , the people in west have think freely , and they r not biased by the religion

like in germany a restaurant uses pic of jesus christ, shri Ram and mary on a tissue paper and there was no furore on that but on Shri Ram some hindu oraganisations in UK protested againstt this .


We should not be religion biased but free thinking biased. but @ same time donot
disrespect ur religion . but the violence by muslims was not justified . They had some problems with thier thinking . They have same thinking now which was 1500 yrs back when islam was born .So there is nothing much we can do to change their thinking

[Vyasram]

people misunderstand popularity with notority when they do such things.

[shaunak]

Sure the cartoonist had and still has freedom of expression. but balant misuse of power and right is best left to the politicians. We live in a democracy {so does the cartoonist} and we must learn to live in peace and harmony and respect all other cultures and appreciate their sentiments.

we all are free to express our views to like minded tolerant people {like i am doing here}; but our convictions are best left out of leading national dailies, especially not expressed in such a manner that would hurt the sentiments of an entire community.

[jamesbond007]

Unlike most of the westners ( I mean most and not all), we indians are very very strong believers of Faith. A true Indian is one who believes in one God. I read this thread very carefully and I was stunned to find some of us feel that it is freedom of expression and one has the right to say what ever he wants.
Yes I do believe in freedom of expression but when it comes to matter of faith I have zero tolerance. I believe we should blindly I mean blindly believe our religion and there should be no tolerance towards those who raise questions about religions. If all the digit members believe in one god then all the members should condem it strongly without saying about freedom of press crap. I feel that rogue should be hanged he is not christian or he is not a jew he is an apostate. He belongs to no faith and so is MF Hussain, Salman Rushdie, and Tasleema Nasreen. They all should be hanged. Those Digit members who support them saying that he has the right to express his views then I got three words for you : Suck my dick

[jz2linkinpark]

@jamesbon007:i oh so agree with you james,but how can a beautiful woman like you have a dick?
p.s:eat my ass,those who believe in freedom of speech

[nix]

^^both of you dont know the importance of free speech. you deserve to be in north korea.

[led_shankar]

@nix: people seldom realise the value of something until they lose it.