"Prosperity can't happen in democracy"

[Liverpool_fan]

I think we need a revolution. The government is lying in shambles and needs a thorough cleanup. But, hardly anyone is interested in changing the government. Everyone is more obsessed with entertainment and gossip. This is what the politicians want, that everyone be entertained and no one stand up against them. A few who give a damn cannot do anything much either.

Yes but it's not only the government; clerk to CEO, chaiwalla to politicians, management to panchayat, mechanic to techie, shopkeepers to shoppers, students to teachers all of them are corrupt/small time/selfish morons.
And let's face it, Who elects the government? Who votes for the parties who clearly play caste and religion based politics? Everything comes up to small time, narrow and selfish mentality of the people, open flouting of rules, no true mutual respect, no civic sense and what not.
The uneducated and ignorant make poor choices while educated and moronic make corrupt choices. Instead of improving each others life, obsession is with cheating and fleecing others; moronic gossips, and justifying their shite by pretext of "culture".
I can go on and on, and on...gaaah

tl;dr version It's all because of the mentality of the people. Our government is the image of the nation, as it is.

[Sarath]

Democracy might be bad but Dictatorship, well, that is a world of pain and a lot many wars.

We just need to fine tune our democracy, at least everyone here should take a pledge to vote in the next elections.

That reminds me, I do not have a voters ID

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

Why is everyone so obsessed with money????

I say everything should be made open source. This will make money obsolete. With the existence of money, people work for money, therefore, he who controls money controls the people. If there is no money, people will work for the benefit of society and not selfish gains.
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I think the advantage of democracy is that it is harder to knock down a democratic country's government. But in dictatorship, all that the external powers have to do is knock down one guy and the whole government crumbles.

[Arsenal_Gunners]

Don't be naive. People won't do anything without the motivation of money.

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

Don't be naive. People won't do anything without the motivation of money.

That's the point!! We are so dependent on it that we cannot do anything without it, consequently becoming ripe for oppression. Even though there is an abundance of resources to go about, certain selfish elements could regulate those resources to make us spend more, consequently forcing us to work more or take loans.

Ex. Some (if not all) petrol pump owners are known to deny people petrol by falsely claiming that petrol has run out, thus driving demand up and consequently prices.

Another example : If you get addicted to coke, you will do whatever the dealer tells you to do and pay him whatever price he quotes in order to get your fix. That mean's you are now the dealer's *****.
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[Arsenal_Gunners]

Equally distribute money,all working for each other etc. We have heard it all before,it's called communism and it has failed spectacularly.

[gopi_vbboy]

what is socialism and communism in simple terms.

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

My point is that as long as money exists, people will be oppressed.
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[tkin]

My point is that as long as money exists, people will be oppressed.
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Lets burn all the money and go back to the stone age, my rabid cow for your corny horse.

[Liverpool_fan]

Technically that's called socialism. Communism is just another form of fascism with the disguise of socialism.

My point is that as long as money exists, people will be oppressed.
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As long of life exists, there will be oppression.

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

As long of life exists, there will be oppression.

Ya, but money is a tool of oppression.
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[Liverpool_fan]

Ya, but money is a tool of oppression.
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No it's just the excuse. See also: Women, Alcohol.

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

How Women/Alcohol?
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[ico]

what is socialism and communism in simple terms.

One really fargmented ideology. Even the commies don't know what it is.

[Renny]

Democracy = A guaranteed way to keep India in poverty and make India never reach its true potential, what can one expect from democracy when the majority of voters are uneducated and even the educated ones look mainly at caste, sops etc?

The bottom line is even if there were some other form of government our situation would be the same if not worse,
MOST of the politicians and bureaucrats lack integrity and a vision for development, all they do is find ways of making money for themselves and their future generations.

We got independence from the British only to be enslaved again by our own corrupt people.

[tkin]

Democracy = A guaranteed way to keep India in poverty and make India never reach its true potential, what can one expect from democracy when the majority of voters are uneducated and even the educated ones look mainly at caste, sops etc?

The bottom line is even if there were some other form of government our situation would be the same if not worse,
MOST of the politicians and bureaucrats lack integrity and a vision for development, all they do is find ways of making money for themselves and their future generations.

We got independence from the British only to be enslaved again by our own corrupt people.

This, for example promise someone a cow and he will gladly give you a vote, a trend very popular in in the south, votes are being bought, not earned.

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

I read in an article once (cannot find link, will post as soon as I find it) that the Indian constitution is based upon the Government of India Act of 1935, which the British had rolled out. Therefore, today, only the rulers have changed, everything else remains the same, if not gone worse.

[revolt]

Posting stuff is not going to do much change.I think all the like minded people.(most of the posters here) should meet or gather somewhere else.

[ico]

I agree with my friend revolt.

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

Posting stuff is not going to do much change.I think all the like minded people.(most of the posters here) should meet or gather somewhere else.

What do you have in mind?

[doomgiver]

Blow up the telegraph poles!!!!
Explode a barrel of gunpowder near the parliament!!!

WTF??? IT MADE ALL MY LETTERS TO LOWERCASE???
what is this witchcraft?!?!?!

[revolt]

I agree with my friend revolt.

What do you have in mind?

Ok.we will discuss that.First select some other suitable place other than this forum or any other forum.

Btw doomgiver we are not doing moment against british anymore.

[Liverpool_fan]

How Women/Alcohol?

Often blamed as the root of "evils"

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

Often blamed as the root of "evils"

The love of money is the root of all evil.
Bible
1 Timothy, 6. 10.

Besides, people use money to get both.
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[Faun]

money money money lodsamonies - Killing Floor

[DeSmOnD dAvId]

Btw doomgiver we are not doing moment against british anymore.

Did you read this:
"Prosperity can't happen in democracy"

[doomgiver]

at least someone here understood the paragraph