Are We (Indians) Racists ?

[Phantom Lancer]

Though this issue never crops up when i have a talk with my Indian friends it almost always crops up in all my conversations with my friends abroad and leaves me very embarrassed .
Our Fair and Lovely Adverts are a standing joke abroad ..... It gives everybody the idea that Indians hate to be brown and desperately want to be pale skinned ! If you look at matrimonial sites/papers the discrimination is even more apparent

Heres a sample of what people think about our ads
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Your opinions

[Rishabh_sharma1990]

^^^Don't you know what a forum is for??

[crawwww]

First of all the options given for the poll are wrong. They shud be "yes" & a "no" not "sometimes" as given by u. And secondly a big yes. Indians are the most racist ppl in the world. Trust me. Just take a look at the conflicts dat have taken place in India in recent times, Attack against Biharis by Maharashtrians, revolts taking place in north eastern states & in Jammu and Kashmir, the supposed partition of Andhra Pradesh, attack on women by members of Sri Ram Sena, attacks on Christians, attacks on Muslims, attacks on Dalits in various parts of the country, the hooliganism shown by MPs in Parliament of a certain party when a supposed oath was not taken in the native language of the state, the Barbari Masjid demolition, the Godhra carnage, Hindu- Muslim riots in Mumbai,.... the list goes on. Even foreigners have not been spared. Look at the gruesome murder of the Australian, Graham Staines and his children in the name of religion. These are all different forms of racism in India. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel if u consider the achievements of certain ppl belonging to the minority in India. For eg. the former President Abdul Kalam (a Muslim), the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh (a Sikh), Sonia Gandhi (an Italian Christian), the Khans of Bollywood, the pluralism shown in the players of the Indian cricket team, one of the richest Indians Azim Premji (a Muslim), Sania Mirza, Leander Paes, Anju Bobby George, etc..... This shows dat India presents equal opportunities to ppl of all cultures, races and sex. So minor incidents of racism will happen and can't be avoided. We shud consider only the bigger picture and move with a positive mind to lead us to the path of development

[Krow]

@ Rishabh Remove links in the quote please. Don't encourage spammers.

[The Sorcerer]

Aren't all humans racists in some way or the other? What's with the fuss? People who say they aren't racists are nothing but hypocrites.

[freshseasons]

You got the tile Wrong.What you are talking is fascination with being fair.Not racism.
Its not that when foreigners comehere we hate them or cant stand them.
We just dont stand dark color something..few i mean..

[ico]

Every Indian will prefer marrying a 'gori' rather than 'kaali'.

[Faun]

Every Indian will prefer blaming himself and cowering under his dhoti. Its a long 1000 years of genetic effect which will require atleast 100 years to ward off the effect.

[IronCruz]

Many people say that ARYANS came from outside India. All rubbish. This was done by British. Actually in Sanskrit the word Aryans means elder people in a family. Even today in schools they teach the same rubbish things. What do all say about this.

[cute.bandar]

Aren't all humans racists in some way or the other? What's with the fuss? People who say they aren't racists are nothing but hypocrites.

+1 Agreed......

[dheeraj_kumar]

"Sometimes" and "No way!" ? Where is the "Of course!" option?

[Rahim]

Post deleted due to over-dose of misunderstanding.

[fuzzyboy]

@a_rahim,
Given a chance, will you marry someone outside your community?

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by a_rahim

I am racist. To add more, i wont allow my siblings to marry outside our community or against the wishes of the family; with this liberal and grown-up crap going around, parents spend heir money and time to give the best of lives to us and all we tend to do is ignore them. Even the courts have given judgement that parents have no say in their childrens lives when they acheive majority. Why not? If parents dump their new borns in wastebin, everyone brings love and cries horse; so imagine the feelings of the same parents who gets the finger.

What the hell The topic is racism, when one discriminates by colour and you are going off topic. Hello?

[FilledVoid]

Even the courts have given judgement that parents have no say in their childrens lives when they acheive majority.

Actually to an extent I agree with this. This actually does give you the means of fighting back if the need arises. I'm not saying that its a boon but I do say that its a necessity.

Furthermore I think that the term racism is being taken a bit too broad.

[Rahim]

Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan

What the hell The topic is racism, when one discriminates by colour and you are going off topic. Hello?

Now that you are done with your making faces; go back to your Rafa slurping.
Come back and post when you have something for this thread. Enough of you and your minion's shadowing.

Racism is a much wider concept than just fair and dark skin. Someone should have realized that before waving his hands to get noticed.

@fuzzy: No I wont.

@all: I see most of the comments not touching the core; just by-passing with a general comment and i agree completely with Sorcerer.


@FilledVoid: Racism in India is not solely on skin colour; its all about caste and dont tell me fair skinned people are not in low caste families.

[MCDC]

Originally Posted by ico

Every Indian will prefer marrying a 'gori' rather than 'kaali'.

sorry dude !! i wont mind if she's black or white. All i need is intelligence, care towards my child(this aint
racism)
But all of us must agree that we indians are racist in a way.
the root of this problem is Money.

[Rahim]

^Caste arrogance is the root cause of racism in India.

[FilledVoid]

@FilledVoid: Racism in India is not solely on skin colour; its all about caste and dont tell me fair skinned people are not in low caste families.

I don't recall writing anything about skin color. All I said is I definitely support the court ruling and I think its a necessity. As far as racial prejudice goes I would believe that it involves comparisons based on your origin or the race you believe you descend from.

And again I don't think caste arrogance is the main cause of racism in India . I believe its pure ignorance and stupidity. That's just my opinion of course.

[Faun]

Originally Posted by MCDC

sorry dude !! i wont mind if she's black or white. All i need is intelligence

And should be in good shape like me (no racism intended for other types).

[The Sorcerer]

Originally Posted by a_rahim

I am racist. To add more, i wont allow my siblings to....

You need to allow yourself to get a dictionary dude . Mini ones cost 60 bucks, lasts a lifetime and if you're being stingy, there Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

I wish next time they have an entrance test for people before coming in such debates. They are not only threadcrappers but also hypocrites.

[thewisecrab]

Yes, Indians are racist, in fact, greater than Australians too. Bloody double standards everywhere in our society.

Deep down, we all are, as ico said so.

Its a strange thing to boldly say that "I'm racist", isnt that something to be ashamed off? No wait, racism implies acting like the Ku Klux Klan right? Shouting your fact across the roof?

[asingh]

Show me a race that is not...!

[ico]

Originally Posted by MCDC

sorry dude !! i wont mind if she's black or white. All i need is intelligence, care towards my child (this aint racism)

We both have similar ideas. However, the fetish of Indian men for white skin is well-known.

[MCDC]

Originally Posted by a_rahim

^Caste arrogance is the root cause of racism in India.

Caste arrogance is just because some are poor and some are rich....so money is the rooooot cause.

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Originally Posted by ico

We both have similar ideas.

thats gud yaar....

"However, the fetish of Indian men for white skin is well-known.".. yaa but those men do suffer after marriage, (no caompatibility, fighting often , then they decide to separate)

[awesomeabid]

sure we are....

Saw Russell Peter's old show. der was a small birthday party, and it was all about Indians...

we Indians, difer each other within our own country....

Gujju's , South Indians, Marwaris, Biharis....i can go on and on... !

chek dis out :
Russell Peters Intense Comedy Night

watch other parts too.

P.S - i dint upload this vdo, so this is no Ad. it goes with the Forum topic.

[amitash]

I am racist. To add more, i wont allow my siblings to marry outside our community or against the wishes of the family;

you WONT allow it? You will controll their lives? I thought this was a free country? What you said looks like a dictatorship to say the least..

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by amitash

you WONT allow it? You will controll their lives? I thought this was a free country? What you said looks like a dictatorship to say the least..

come on man He is sacrificing himself and keeping the "honour" and "traditions" of his family In fact he should be called a hero And you are calling him a dictator. Very bad

[XTerminator]

everybody's a racist in some way or the other...and we all know that.just that being vocal about it isnt acceptable in the society.

[Aberforth]

Are Indians racist? No. A lot of Indians may be xenophobic, but the prevalence is no more than it is in other parts of the world. Bring up a SINGLE country in the world where you think there is no racism. We are just more open about it, since there aren't 938493 laws in India to keep our sentiments bottled up.

For those who think Fair and Lovely concept represents racism, it doesn't. Fair and dark skin in India represent skin tones, not races. And contrary to the way it is portrayed in TV commercials, women rarely ever get rejected for a job on the basis of their skin colour alone.

As for matrimonial ads, the demand for lighter complexion is just a fetish. It is not racism, any more than my desire for slender women with beautiful face and good legs.