should we attack on pak...........?????????

[pr.itdude]

hello frndz,
as we know all abt the mumbai attack, the whole world shocked.....
thereafter there were a lot of protests and anger against our politicians who misjudged the indian mood this time atleast,
now there is talk everywhere abt
y we always kept quiet??
y gov not take strict actions...???
now being here at a tech forum,
i want to open up a new thread to know the views of all the techies here, what u think.......

should we go for a final change, should we attack on pakistan and destroys all the terrorists camp.....????

mostly ppl would say ""yes""
but there is another side of coin, the world is facing economic crisis,india too. so is this the right tym for the attack, we will also suffer a gr8 loss in terms of money n soldiers....!!! and both india and pak are nuclear power today....!!!

will this not agitate the world war......??? As America is supporting india and there are a lots of anti-american countries.........who would be with pak, muslim countries basically..........!!!

Also this is a matter of indian pride, so y dont we...........???

What u ppl, the thinkdigitian think abt this issue...........????

[iNFiNiTE]

First of all, why is this post in the random news section? Shouldn't Fight Club be the better place to move this thread?

And as for the strike on pakistan, we should remember that India is not US and Pakistan is not some militarily backward state like Afghanistan/Iraq. Any such attack maybe treated by pakistan as an attack on its sovereignity and it may quickly escalate into a full scale war.

Think rationally dude, wars are not fought over pride or issues like economic crisis. Especially when there are nuclear weapons involved.

[ravi_9793]

Only possible way to end terrorism is.. PAK and IND together destroy all terrorist camp. A direct war on PAK may result in nuclear war... which nobody wants.

[nix]

^^ you think pak has control over its nukes? i think US controls pakistan's n-button. its highly improbabl for US to let pakistan's unstable govt to govt to control pak's nukess

[mrintech]

Don't pave a way to World War III

A Big NO to war.....

[IronManForever]

For me, this tech forum is one of the ways I try to escape from harsh realities. Discussing politically sensitive issues here feels odd. I did that once.. and as no imminent end was seen, I dread these kinda debates..

[ionicsachin]

No way man, wat if they trigger nuclear weapon, it ll create large scale destruction and long lasting radiation effects....it took lot many years for Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be back.....Chernobyl after effects were dreadful too

[mrintech]

A BIG NO Again

Mujhe abhi jeena hai aur bade bade kaam karne hai

[QwertyManiac]

Not something I'd discuss on a forum

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by ionicsachin

No way man, wat if they trigger nuclear weapon, it ll create large scale destruction and long lasting radiation effects....it took lot many years for Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be back.....Chernobyl after effects were dreadful too

hum kya diwali ke 50 rupay wale rocket leke baithe hai?If they attack with nuclear weapons then their country will be history.They can destroy maximum 2-3 indian cities but they wont be alive to see all this.

Originally Posted by mrintech

A BIG NO Again

Mujhe abhi jeena hai aur bade bade kaam karne hai

Seedh seedha bol tujhe shaadi karni hai.

[ionicsachin]

^^no yaar...we can distroy them off...but nuclear weapons have very bad effects...try google image "chernobyl afteraffects"...radiation is hell

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by ionicsachin

^^no yaar...we can distroy them off...but nuclear weapons have very bad effects...try google image "chernobyl afteraffects"...radiation is hell

I know.Agar is sey pakistan saaf ho sakta hai toh main qurbaani ke liye ready hu.Joking.Nuclear ka effect toh dheere dheere khatam ho jayega par Pakistan ka kabhi nahi hoga.

[mrintech]

Originally Posted by gaurav_indian

Seedh seedha bol tujhe shaadi karni hai.

LOLuRight

[pr.itdude]

yup.........a NO from me too.......
but there is an utter need to give a tight slap to pak........!!
and this is the only way....
can't we just attack only on their some base camps.........
our AIR FORCE is very much capable of doing that.........!!! and UN is also with us.......!!

Originally Posted by QwertyManiac

Not something I'd discuss on a forum

well if u not discuss it today,,,,,,,,,,,,
next tym u will be the victim of these terrrorists........!!
samay aa gaya hai.......jab aar ya par k ladai ki jaye..........

[IronManForever]

Originally Posted by pr.itdude

and UN is also with us

:laughs: :laughs:
UN and Nukes are two sides of a coin. Use nukes and Un will turn their head opposite..

a big no to all the guys who supported war here, or even they say as "samay aa gaya hai.......jab aar ya par k ladai ki jaye..........".

this is not the way to deal the situation, remember that pak is a nuke capale country, and there are very high chances that these terrorists will be having the same nuke weapons, recently US intel report says it suspects that they may posses nukes.

the solution to this is

1. we have a terrorist in our custody that can tell where are the camps
2. our intel has very strng proof against terror camps ib pak

give all the proof to all the world or best the UN and create a preassure on them to all the countries come under one roof even the pak and destroy their terror camps.

waging a full scale war on pak is not a solution, there are human beings in pak who are innocent, they did nothing. why they should suffer.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by hhhgame

waging a full scale war on pak is not a solution, there are human beings in pak who are innocent, they did nothing. why they should suffer.

So the victims of terror attack at Mumbai, Delhi, Jaipur, Hydrabad........... were not innocent ????

Anyways, I am also against the war...

[mrintech]

Originally Posted by Ross

So the victims of terror attack at Mumbai, Delhi, Jaipur, Hydrabad........... were not innocent ????

But it's a truth that Innocent people are there also in Pak (not all but some)

[Ross]

Originally Posted by mrintech

But it's a truth that Innocent people are there also in Pak (not all but some)

right said..
then not only in Pak, they are all over the Earth .. (and may be some at LeT, JeM, Osama's camp too)!!!

[gaurav_indian]

Osama bada shareef insaan hai.And he is a very responsible man.Kahin bhi bomb blasts ho uski responsibility apne shoulders pe leta hai.

Originally Posted by hhhgame

a big no to all the guys who supported war here, or even they say as "samay aa gaya hai.......jab aar ya par k ladai ki jaye..........".

this is not the way to deal the situation, remember that pak is a nuke capale country, and there are very high chances that these terrorists will be having the same nuke weapons, recently US intel report says it suspects that they may posses nukes.

the solution to this is

1. we have a terrorist in our custody that can tell where are the camps
2. our intel has very strng proof against terror camps ib pak

give all the proof to all the world or best the UN and create a preassure on them to all the countries come under one roof even the pak and destroy their terror camps.

waging a full scale war on pak is not a solution, there are human beings in pak who are innocent, they did nothing. why they should suffer.

India gave all the proofs in the past also.What happened?People in pakistan even though terrorism exists there and they know that cant accept when indians tells this same truth to them.They make fun of all these proofs.And say things like its hindu terrorists.Where in our country news channel and people always say terrorism has no religion.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by gaurav_indian

.....And say things like its hindu terrorists....

OT: BTW, i may be wrong(and please correct me if i am), but AFAIK the term Hindu Terrorists was coined by a Indian(and Hindu) himself only after Malegaon blasts....Guesse who..???
There was no such thing like hindu terrorist in India before...(and Pakis caught the word.)

[gaurav_indian]

Originally Posted by Ross

OT: BTW, i may be wrong(and please correct me if i am), but AFAIK the term Hindu Terrorists was coined by a Indian(and Hindu) himself only after Malegaon blasts....Guesse who..???
There was no such thing like hindu terrorist in India before...(and Pakis caught the word.)

Yeah may be by an indian politician. Yeah pakis are making it as an excuse.That samjhauta express blasts were done by an army official so this mumbai attack is also done by hindus thats their thinking.

[Ross]

pathetic pakis......

[pr.itdude]

hey, i am not also in the favour of war, "full scale war", india will also have to pay in that situation....
but something must be done........we cant sit quiet now....!!
i am more concerned about the Air attack on PAK terrorists camps......
the other countries can only say to india that "u r right"............but we, INDIA has to take steps bcoz its the indians who have died in the attacks..........

its not mere about these recent attacks,v r suffering from this terrorism problem since the 93 mumbai attacks..............buddy,,,u cant count the no. of innocent indians died since then........!!!

[iNFiNiTE]

I have said this earlier and will repeat it again, attacking pak isn't the solution for ending India's woes with terrorism.

What we have in PoK and other areas as terrorist camps aren't some definitive buildings but makeshift camps. Even if we bomb them, whts the guarantee that they won't spring up elsewhere? Terrorists can be trained in any area of Pak or afghanistan. Do you seriously think that once these camps are destroyed, there won't be any future terrorist attacks? Remember, US with all it's high tech gadgetary and intel and its 'War on Terror' started -8 years agao couldn't stop the international terrorism menace, couldn't bring an end to Taliban in afghanistan and also got itself stuck in Iraq.

Attacking pakistan now would be playing directly into hands of LeT and ISI. They WANT India to attack those areas so they can unite in the name of an aggression from India and shift the focus from the northern front of pakistan where the pak troops have to wage a war against their own home bred terrorists under US pressure. Pak already used a hoax call as an excuse to shift many troops to its border with India and started preparing for a so-called incoming attack, Imagine what they would do if there are real surgical strikes.


Those who say that "samay aa gaya hai.......jab aar ya par k ladai ki jaye..........", I would say that yes, its high time that we beef up our own security. Instead of attacking pak which won't stop future terrorist attacks, we should spend money on our modernizing our police and improving the Intelligence networks. Enhancing the security cover in all cities, federal agencies to tackle terror, ensuring better cooperation between all security agencies etc would be a rational thing to do.

As for the people- Stop giving bribes to policemen to get away from security checks/toll tax barriers or get things done faster for you. It's corruption and slacking at the job by persons responsible for security, that makes things easy for terrorists in their evil plans. So be responsible and see to it that things around you work how they are supposed to work.


And those who say that only 2-3 cities will be destroyed by a Pak nuke attack, with India's 'No first use' policy and Pak's 'Anything threatens us, we nuke India' policy, which cities do you thing they would first attack? Delhi,Mumbai, Bangalore,Kolkata??? What about the millions of people who will lose their lives? And even if we fire away tens of nukes at their cities, it won't end the nuke war coz nuclear missile launchers aren't kept in cities but in remote places which could be used to launch further strikes. So any war which even has a remote possiblity to escalate into a nuclear war is a Strict NO-NO.

[pr.itdude]

@ infinite......i really appreciate ur security knowledge....!!
but u ppl really think pak will gonna to help us to catch those militants/master-minds....???

[oval_man]

Slightly off the topic:

During Mumbai Terrorist Attack,NSG commandos fought and the 'war' came to an end with

many loss of life-------------This is a known Fact,

Now,we all know NSG commandos comprise of many trained people from various states of India like BIHAR,UP,TN,Karnataka,Kerala and so on...

Now,the question is What happened to our DADA 'Thackarey & co' who opposed other state Indians entering Mumbai & Maharashtra?

NOw,how our Mumbaiites will deal such campaign against other state Indians?

[m-jeri]

In one word. YES.

We should have done this years ago.
But it will never mean it be the end of anything. it will just trigger a lot more new movements.

The only thing abt their govt is their active support of terrorism and harboring fugitives. for that a war is not the answer though. it be having strong and correct diplomatic and strategic movements. political and military.

Moreover. even before taking the war to others it be better to start from inside this nation. the level of corruption, racism, patriotism have to be checked again on each indians. failing to do so. even a 50 year campaign on the enemy will not result in a better nation. just a torn apart good for nothing one.

Protect the citizens. Modernize and arm the domestic security. 3 days it took for them. inside the nation. if one politician was there we would have seen far better results.

Even after the incident CNN done a report on the security of various hot spots in india. nothing is different.

[dreamcatcher]

Cummon guys,you actually serious?? India doesnt have the horsepower to floor Pakistan, and thats a fact.US will be the sole gainer if India ever decides to lanch an attack.they will be supplying arms to pakistan and India alike and thereby gaining huge sums in the process. And what about us?? Imagine the amount of destruction it shall cause to the Indian subcontinent if the terrorists retort bck with missiles and fighter plnes of their own?? The militants are nothing but a rogue arm of the ISI, who gives a gurantee that Pakistan wont nuke us??


Look at the broader side of the matter and not take a hunch for a decision. If in the course of the attack, China decides to run amock, what shall be our plight??? We cant attack them unless we have heavy backing from all quarters, which as of now, seems a distant possibility..

[Sridhar_Rao]

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