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    Default [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Hey Can someone solve these question and explain it?
    I want the answer before 25th(till 24th)


    I didn't even understand this-


    A maths one(this one seems impossible)

    81. The area of quadrilateral ABCD whose sides are 9 m, 40 m, 28 m and 15 m is
    (A) 300 m2
    (B) 306 m2
    (C) 296 m2
    (D) none of these

    Update: solved the first and the third
    can someone explain the second?
    at least just what it means?
    Last edited by Niilesh; 24-03-2012 at 12:50 AM.

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    YOUR QN REFRMAED:

    I have a parcel with four sides with lengths of 9 on the north, 40 on the south, 28 on the west and 15 on the east. I do not know any of the angles and presume that none of them are right angles. Also presume that none of the sides are parallel to each other.

    I can't divide it into two triangles and calculate those areas using the formula 1/2 b X h because neither of the triangles would have a right angle.

    How do I go about calculating the area?



    use Brahmagupta Formula:

    A = SqRt[(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)(s-d)]

    a, b, c and d are the lengths of the four sides of the quadrilateral, and s = (a + b + c + d)/2.

    s=(9+40+28+15)/2=46

    Area=Sq rt(46-9)(46-40)(46-28)(46-15)

    =Sq rt(37)(6)(18)(31)

    =Sqrt(123876)

    =351.96

    So Answer is D

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^
    the formula only applies to cyclic quadrilateral
    Answer is B (i have answer key)
    actually the question is wrong but it has a special case in it a pythagoras triplet

    Area of quad = 126 + 180 (by herons formula) = 306

    Also i solved the first question

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^How did you solved 3rd ?
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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^ you mean first?
    I didn't solve the second one

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    This is the fig is:


    Now area of quadrilateral = area of two triangles
    Area of triangle with sides 40,41 and 9 is 180(1/2*40*9)
    area of other triangle is 126(herons formula)
    total = 306 units

    PS: i didn't label the image properly before

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    How can you consider the figure to be that way along with right angles?
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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Actually the question is wrong
    But i found that it had a Pythagoras triplet so just put a right angle there
    BTW in the question the order is 9,40,28,15
    switch the 28 and 15 sides in my fig and there you have it - the required quadrilateral

    also if you consider it to be a trapezium with height 9 and with parallel sides 40 and 28 the area is same

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^In that maths question if you do it the other way round that is 28^2+15^2 then the hypotenuse should be equal to 41 but it is not coming to 41.
    In a quardilateral if one angle is 90 all other angles should be also 90 all this leading to that it is either a rectangle or a square

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Quote Originally Posted by vaibhav23 View Post
    ^In that maths question if you do it the other way round that is 28^2+15^2 then the hypotenuse should be equal to 41 but it is not coming to 41.
    In a quardilateral if one angle is 90 all other angles should be also 90 all this leading to that it is either a rectangle or a square
    hey man who said that other triangle is also right angled?

    "In a quardilateral if one angle is 90 all other angles should be also 90 all this leading to that it is either a rectangle or a square" - this line is wrong. Go revise the basics
    PS: no offence

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Answer of second is?
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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^(c)

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Niilesh View Post
    hey man who said that other triangle is also right angled?

    "In a quardilateral if one angle is 90 all other angles should be also 90 all this leading to that it is either a rectangle or a square" - this line is wrong. Go revise the basics
    PS: no offence
    ^Sorry I mixed it up a little.
    BTW what was the answer you got for the first one

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Its again C
    you will not understand it without knowing trigno and of course snells law

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^I have studied that chapter in class 9 and have took out the answer.
    My one is also C but wanted to cross check with how you got the answer

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^
    I learned it in class X(since NCERT of class IX didn't have those topics and i was not preparing for competitive exams)

    You want to know the solution?

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    I give up, OMG I hate studies *runs away screaming*

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^
    BTW Test was held today
    It went better than my expectation

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Ok ,they will come on 28th

    finally i can enjoy the holidays

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Niilesh View Post
    ^
    I learned it in class X(since NCERT of class IX didn't have those topics and i was not preparing for competitive exams)

    You want to know the solution?
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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^
    I live in Jaipur (you can see that with the post count on the left)

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    In second ques, magnetic force only acts on moving charged particles so it'll just sit there.
    Is there magnetism chapter is 10th class.
    Explaining the question: a charged particle is on a table tied to a string and there is a magnetic field perpendicular to table surface.

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Quote Originally Posted by kuki_295 View Post
    In second ques, magnetic force only acts on moving charged particles so it'll just sit there.
    Is there magnetism chapter is 10th class.
    Explaining the question: a charged particle is on a table tied to a string and there is a magnetic field perpendicular to table surface.
    I didn't read that
    BTW magnetism was in 9th

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Can you share the questions ?
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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    ^ The question paper was taken with the OMR sheet but if you want i can post few questions that i can remember

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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Yes please.
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    Default Re: [urgent]help me solve class X physics questions

    Q. What is the chemical formula of Magnesite?

    Q. Bronze is made up of which metals?

    Q. There are 256 pages in a book how many integers are used?(Its a little tricky to understand what he is saying)

    Q.Heart:throb::Eye: ?

    Q. how many polygons are there in this figure?
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