amd 64 headache

[arun]

hi everyone
recentluy i bought amd 64 cpu 3200 and msi k8n neo platinum mobo
and ati 9800 pro card and 1 gb ram

i see that the temperature is reaching 67deg(max) and i have 3 additional fans installed on case.and i also have vga problem some lines and disturbances in all game .so i buyed a new system and is resting. anyone
pls help me.if u have amd system pls tell the max temperature and if anybody is in chennai pls help me so that i can contact u

and fix the prob

any one help pls

Welcome to the world of Hot computing

Don't worry thats normal temprature, if U r botherd by the sound & noise then open you cabinet door

[arun]

is that normal temp what but mobo guide it is listed as max 60deg working condition but mobo alarm sound is automatically fixed at 80deg
and what abt vga card do i need to download special drivers for ati 9800 pro card. or any updates should be downloaded for the card.it seems some of u have radeon card pls help

Motherboard temprature is not the temp of CPU

[arun]

saurav whats the difference between motherboard temperature and cpu temperature its giben in amnual of mobo that 'do not use this in enivrinment above 60 c "

do u have any idea of vga card problem

Call me gx here not Saurav

The CPU temprature is the temprature of the centre of CPU core, while the motherboard temprature is the temprature of the motherboard base PCB

[arun]

whats the maximum limit
for cpu temp
mobo temp

Well, it differs for every CPU & motherboard

[darklord]

Don't worry thats normal temprature,

You call those temps normal??? :roll: dude, its A64 not XP, those temps are way too high.

Hey Arun,
MSI boards seem to have this problem with the hardware monitoring chip,it reports weird values.

I donno why this happens but i experienced the same problem for one of my MSI board.

Physically touch the CPUheatsink,if its hot then,u need to worry,otherwise not.
Also enable Cool n QUiet Technology, it will kep temps down. [/code]

Well, the normal temprature range for AMD64 is higher then AthlonXP or Northwood, take an example, if the temprature reaches 71C for the CPU for northwood it throttles the CPU MHz to lower the temprature but with prescott, untill it reaches 89C nothing like this happens, same goes with AMD64, this is high temprature for AthlonXP but for AMD64 anything above 77 is high

[akshayt]

for how much did you buy amd 64 3200 and msi mobo,and ram

The prices differ, for 23K, Indyan baught the K8V & AMD64 3000+

[there_is_no_spoon]

Talking abt the athlon 64, i just got a new one with a asus k8vx mobo: although it says 3000+, the cpu speed is listed as 2000 Mhz( thats quite a drop); what is the 3000+ about?
And i chose this over a p4 3.0 ht with Intel 915 mobo!
how do they compare? how does the athlon catch up?

[blade_runner]

Well thats naming convention of AMD proccys, they are named accrdngly to their rivals Ghz rating equivalents. Dont worry dude u are getting the performance of a 3.0G proccy ! Chk out the benchies on some popular sites.

[i.am_mayur]

another 1 bites the dust
spoon seems like ure the latest casualty of the AMD 'fool the consumers' syndrome
How do u expect a 2Ghz proc to match up with a 3GHz . MOst of the benchmarks dont accccount for speed,they r only 'result oriented' and 'synthetic' benchmarks .In the real world all that matters is speed alone,so if ure in it for SPEEd alone,AMD sux big tiime Intel rulz anyday.

I back with a vengeance to rescue ppl like u from the clutches of AMD
I.am_Mayur

[darklord]

Hey Mayur,
Looks like you need to do some reality check.
And what do you know about A64? have you even used it to comment on it?

[blade_runner]

LOL ! Ignore him darky.........he isn't worth it .........

[there_is_no_spoon]

just a min-- if the benchmarks dont account for 'speed', then what does?

and as long as it gives a better gaming performance,and comparable performance in other apps who cares abt the speed-- speed becomes just another number!

Which applications in the "real world" DO require this 'Speed' , that the multitude of benchmarks (designed , it seems now, by idiots in some world like the Matrix) dont seem to take into account?

And i guess the only way u can rescue me from the "Matrix" is refund my money! Any neos' to help me out?

[there_is_no_spoon]

Slipped up-- didnt read your posts (which were on the next page) before posting my reply. Consider mayur's comments as ignored!

[sikku]

Hi everyone,
At any given point of time weather the Mobo Temp is more or the CPU Temp is.My athlom 64 2800+ is showing the Mobo temp is 4 Deg more than the CPU Temp.(CPU 39/Mobo 43).

[darklord]

Normally CPU temperature is more than MOBO temp.

Your temperatures look normal.
Most of A64 motherboards come with a small heatsink, this can be due to this.

I have changed the heatsink,added a fan and now my mobo temp is 35 @ full load.

[i.am_mayur]

darklord .. ur system configuration is absolutely CRAP dude ..
u shuld be ashamed of posting it so blatantly

[[flAsh]]

hey mayur AMD athlon, athlon xp, Athlon 64 alwez hav defeated Intel ones in synthetic tests certainly real world tests r optimized 2 use HT from intel but whenever 64 bit real world tests, its gonna use AMD64 instructions heavily and that will result in AMD b'cumin the winner so INTEL SUX!!! b'coz Intel is JBL now (JBL= JUST A BIG LOSER)

[wORm]

Originally Posted by i.am_mayur

darklord .. ur system configuration is absolutely **** dude ..
u shuld be ashamed of posting it so blatantly

Buddy, its not about how "big" it is, its how you use it that matters. 8)

[theraven]

ignore the guy man .... or hes just gonna post to p!$$ us off ....

[darklord]

Originally Posted by i.am_mayur

darklord .. ur system configuration is absolutely **** dude ..
u shuld be ashamed of posting it so blatantly

OH yeah, care to post yours?

[i.am_mayur]

flash . ure certainly Brain-dead man . Synthetic tests Dont Matter ..
All that matters is SPEED . An there aint nothin faster than Intel .

Even though AMD may take the performance lead ,Intel beats it in terms of Pure speed

AMD can think of coming up with a 3.6 Ghz HT processor only in its DIStant DReamz man ! (maybe after 4-5 yrs when intel would already have clocked ..say 10 GHz!)
Cause AMD simply dont have enough Technology to produce faster chips.. all it can do is compare its chips performance wih intel's

Take for eg when a game loads ,, Intel CPU will load much faster .even though AMD may give 2-3 fps more when done
so all u AMD faanatics .. [Edit Batty] Watch your words

And make sure ur kids dont make the same mistake as u (goin for AMD)

[darklord]

i.am_mayur,
Care to post your Config? You Intel w***e ...lol..heheheh

your post reflects your limited knowledge.lol

[Raaabo]

i.am_mayur you're looking at a ban coming up. Stop being silly and abusing. Also, I don't know about everyone else, but your arguements sound ridiculous.

How many of us here would rather have a CPU with 3.6 Gigs written on a box than a processor that out-performs everything else? Personally, I don't care whether Intel or AMD are better, I would buy a CPU / MoBo / RAM / HDD combo that beats everything else hollow! Whether it's a P4 - 3.2 G or an AMD 64 3200 doesn't matter, the ONLY thing that matters are the benchmarks, especially the type of benchmarks which come closest to MY usage pattern: If i'm a gamer, then only the gaming benchmarks interest me, if i'm an office user, then a P4 1.6 or P4 3.2, makes no difference to me, who cares if Microsoft Excel or Word opens 0.2765234587658756234 seconds faster on a P4 3.2—not me, that's for sure!

[[flAsh]]

hey Mayur Keep ur suggestions with u.
Nobody is stopping u from goin 4 Intel, after all u r a big genius engg. who has got 1st rank IIT-JEE and is having Computer Engg. at IIT KANPUR,(THIS MAN IS REDICULUS )Who the hell is stopping u??? but an urge here DON'T DARE 2 USE BAD LANGUAGE U $HIT!!!
Don't giv ur f**ky suggestions 2 others.
and 4 temperature problem DISABLE DOT from BIOS as it is enabled by default and overclocks ur PC till 10% in default mode thus increasing performance & temperature as well
Once again we 2 hav got tons of BAD WORDS 4 U DEAD BARIN!!!! but we r different.
Understand!!!