CPU/Chipset News

[damngoodman999]

AMD phenom 2 X2 550 is winning all the core2duo's , how WOW , if it is priced @ 5K means it is the best proccy for Core2duos

[MetalheadGautham]

AMD phenom 2 X2 550 is winning all the core2duo's , how WOW , if it is priced @ 5K means it is the best proccy for Core2duos

You sir, are wrong.

AMD Athlon II X2 250 is priced @ 5.5K - GROSSLY OVERPRICED.

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition is priced @ 6.5K - OK-ish but not sweet enough IMO to NOT spend 1K more for 720BE.

[damngoodman999]

^^^ Ya thats right , i told when it is priced @ 5K then it would be much better

[desiibond]

AMD to block core unlocking by BIOS microcode udpate.

Source: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gigaby...ews-31293.html

[damngoodman999]

^^^ u mean multiplier will not be there ???

[desiibond]

not the multiplier. some boards are allowing the third and fourth cores of dual core 7750 to be unlocked using a BIOS hack. With the coming BIOS update that won't be possible.

[I_no]

You sir, are wrong.

AMD Athlon II X2 250 is priced @ 5.5K - GROSSLY OVERPRICED.

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition is priced @ 6.5K - OK-ish but not sweet enough IMO to NOT spend 1K more for 720BE.

Can we expect both prices to lower in coming days by about Rs. 500 so that they can really give the pentium dual cores run for their money??

[comp@ddict]

We can expect the Athlon II X2 250 to come to about 4k not Phenom II X2.

[I_no]

We can expect the Athlon II X2 250 to come to about 4k not Phenom II X2.

Thanks.
I have a feeling that Phenom II X2 will be any way phased out in coming days and that segment be covered up by higher clocked Regors (Athlon II) since Regor is cheaper to produce and the 45nm produce has matured enough to get higher yields of fully functional X4.

Also, any signs of single cores from harvested Regors coming like Athlon II X1 150??

[MetalheadGautham]

^^I think we would find 512KB cache version Sempron II X2 and Sempron II X1 CPUs harvested from Regors.

[I_no]

^^I think we would find 512KB cache version Sempron II X2 and Sempron II X1 CPUs harvested from Regors.

And i thought Athlon was going to become the sempron now.
Anyway, anybody around here overclocking those Regors?? They should make for a nice 24x7 4.0 Ghz AMD setup.

[MetalheadGautham]

And i thought Athlon was going to become the sempron now.
Anyway, anybody around here overclocking those Regors?? They should make for a nice 24x7 4.0 Ghz AMD setup.

Nope. NEVER.

Athlon II X2 will still be the best offering by AMD for budget gamers from the dual core era.

And Sempron II is most likely to be sourced from Athlon II X3 and X4 CPUs which have only 512KB of L2 cache per core.

For the same reason, I think Athlon II X3 makes a not-so-good buy along with Phenom II X3.

Triple Core CPUs were always a temporary solution. No app is optimized for triple core but not quad core. But you do have dual optimized apps which are not optimized for more cores.

So I advice you to buy one of these:

• AMD Sempron II - low budget
• AMD Sempron II X2 - value
• AMD Athlon II X2 - budget gaming
• AMD Phenom II X2 - performance gaming
• AMD Athlon II X4 - mainstream value (my favourite)
• AMD Phenom II X4 - overall performance

And avoid these:

• AMD Athlon and Sempron series classic CPUs (excluding 4050e)
• AMD Phenom first generation CPUs
• AMD Athlon II X3
• AMD Phenom II X3 NON black edition
• About 720 Black Edition: if you already have one its fine. It beats E8000 series CPUs in almost ALL benchmarks

But the choice is still yours.

[j1n M@tt]

can u guys plz post some reviews which shows A II 250 vs E7500 and P II 550BE vs E8400?

[topgear]

http://www.techspot.com/review/171-a...omx2-athlonx2/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/athlon...550-be-review/

[j1n M@tt]

does the Phenom black editions come with new heatpipe based HSF?? or only PII 955 comes with the new HSF?? can someone who hav BEs plz post pics of HSF??

[Krow]

I'll post soon.

[desiibond]

BTW, AMD CPU market share jumped up by 5% last quarter. A direct cut from Intel though intel has hold on netbook market.

Now that 550 and 250 are out, I hope they will add another 8% of share and hold 30% share. This totally seems likely given the poor releases from Intel.

[MetalheadGautham]

BTW, AMD CPU market share jumped up by 5% last quarter. A direct cut from Intel though intel has hold on netbook market.

Now that 550 and 250 are out, I hope they will add another 8% of share and hold 30% share. This totally seems likely given the poor releases from Intel.

But remember, Intel's 32nm Clarkdale (2 cores, 4 threads, on-die GPU, 4MB L3 cache, 73W TDP) is set to launch by the end of this year replacing the PDC E6300 @ 84$ according to rumors. I don't think Intel will let AMD enjoy for that long.

And AMD has next to NOTHING to combat intel in mobile CPUs.

[desiibond]

Mobile has always been Intel's but still this time, AMD gained market share in mobile platform too. And now they released a competitor to Intel Atom.

btw, Clarkdale is the one with integrated GPU right? Any idea when Fusion is coming out?

[MetalheadGautham]

Mobile has always been Intel's but still this time, AMD gained market share in mobile platform too. And now they released a competitor to Intel Atom.

What competitor ? Only AMD Bobcat can compete with Atom and that won't be out till 2011.

btw, Clarkdale is the one with integrated GPU right? Any idea when Fusion is coming out?

Fusion is coming out in 2010 ending with K10.5 Stars core.

Later AMD plans to use 32nm Bulldozer Cores (mainstream/performance - upto 100W TDP rumored) and 32nm Bobcat Cores (low end value, 1-10W TDP) by 2011.

Even that may get delayed due to funding issues and recession.

I doubt AMD can compete with Clarkdale and Arrandale (clarkdale's mobile equivalent).

BTW, you bought Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition yet ?

[desiibond]

Am actually talking about Athlon Neo,

1.6GHz single core with a 15W TDP
512k L2 cache, 64k L1 data and instruction caches
AMD 690T northbridge and SB600 southbridge based on the UMC 65nm process - platform total TDP is 27W (for Athlon Neo)

yes. it uses more TDP than that in netbooks but could be lot more useful for those who want little bit more. Check HP dv2z, first notebook utilizing this processor.

I am going to get Phenom II X2 when the price goes to 4k . Have to sell 7750BE anyway

[I_no]

Later AMD plans to use 32nm Bulldozer Cores (mainstream/performance - upto 100W TDP rumored) and 32nm Bobcat Cores (low end value, 1-10W TDP) by 2011.

Even that may get delayed due to funding issues and recession.

I doubt AMD can compete with Clarkdale and Arrandale (clarkdale's mobile equivalent).

If AMD can continue with the present momentum, then I don't think fusion will get delayed further. AMD, with its 3 months before schedule launch of Istanbul and pre-scheduling of magny-cours is really looking in good aggresive shape today.

And I think that clarkdale's integrated GPU is not really a threat to AMD as propus X3/X4 coupled with AMD's strong integrated GPU (on northbridge like 4200HD etc.) should be able to keep clarkdale in check. Granted, AMD's margin will be lesser than that of Intel, but we will have competition. And who knows, by the time clarkdale comes out at 32nm, AMD would have also shrunk K10 to 32nm and 28nm GPU's should be in production while clarkdale's IGP will still be on 45nm, so maybe AMD would have an edge there with maybe 5200HD IGP!!
Remember, Intel graphics suck today and AMD, today, have a very strong platform and Intel in this department will play catchup with AMD with clarkdale's IGP.

[desiibond]

5200HD??? dreaming kyaa?

Anyways, what you said is true. Intel till now was not able to design a proper IGP for nothr bridge, i do doubt the capability of on-die IGP. Also, they will be charging a lot for those processors. In the age when you get a graphics card for 2k, I don't think it's a big deal.

AMD on the other hand already have a winning combination of CPU+IGP(mobo) and all that they need to do is shrink the size of 780G or 790FX and put it into processor. That should be enough to sink Clarkdale

[I_no]

http://translate.google.com.au/trans...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
AMD RD890, RS880D coming with SB850 southbridge in next year, January.
IGP not updated, still 4200HD based on RV620 core as 780G with UVD 2.0 + SATA 6.0 but no USB3.0

[amitash]

so far in the mobile market intel are dominating..as for low end desktops amd are ahead and in the mid-range market there is real competetion between both the giants...will be interesting to see what the new chipsets from intel (core i5) can do...as for the high end market, intel are really way ahead with the i7's...and now with some x58 mobos below 200$, the i7-920 can really take the mid-range market if its priced equal to phenom 2 configs.

[Shadowfax2009]

Hey guys,
This is out today as Intels future plans with i7 ....... with introduction of i5 and i3. Lynfield is going to be both i7 and i5. 1156 socket is going to have both i7 and i5.

GOOD PUBLIC HOGWASH.....BUT BUT IF U SEE THE TECHNICALITIES THE 1156 PLATFORM I7 IS COMPLETE MISNOMER TO MISLEAD PUBLIC. WITHOUT QPI AND OTHER 9 SERIES SPECIALITY IT IS CHEATING PUBLIC.

Anyway read here http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3585

Below is the most relevant part:
The important take away points are as follows:

1) The new brand is Intel Core. There will be three derivatives: Core i7, Core i5 and Core i3.
2) The Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad branding will eventually disappear.
3) Pentium, Celeron and Atom will remain.
4) Centrino will also go away and Intel's WiFi and WiMAX products will inherit the name starting in 2010.

But what separates a Core i7 from a Core i5 and Core i3? I may have some insight. Let's start with desktop processors:

Intel Core i7: Cores 4, Threads 8, TurboYes
Intel Core i5: Cores 2 or 4, Threads 4, Turbo Yes
Intel Core i3: Cores 2 or 4, Threads 4, Turbo No

Only the Core i7 is allowed to run in a LGA-1366 socket, however there will be LGA-1156 i7, i5 and i3CPUs . The number of memory channels and the presence of a QPI link does not determine branding. In other words, Lynnfield will be both a Core i7 and a Core i5 depending on the SKU.
The LGA-1156 Core i7s will be the 8xx series, while the LGA-1366 i7s will be the 9xx series. The i5s will be the 6xx series and the i3s will be the 5xx series.
Four cores and HT enabled with turbo mode yields you a Core i7 on the desktop. If you only have support for up to 4 threads then you've got a Core i5; take away turbo and you have a Core i3.

(Posted also in official i7 thread, Mods delete one if necessary)

[comp@ddict]

NEW AMD PROCESSORS - HOT

[Krow]

^^^looks good.

[topgear]

The Phenom X4 X945 is really a hot one. A 3GHZ quad core @ only 95W. Great !

[damngoodman999]

Where is 940 ???