the Official Intel Core ix thread for desktops and laptops

[ashu888ashu888]

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thanx (as always ) dude..

[official]

As Intel releases i7 we thought that we have come to settle for a great processor for couple of years untill Amd releases something...But it seems like nothing is like to last for a quarter as i heard that intel will be releasing 32nm i7 by jan probably...
Do you people think its going to fit in 1366 socket of recent x58 boards????
I just thought of upgrading to i7 this fall 09, but i think its better to wait.
What do you suggest!!
Do you think prices of i7 will fall by any chance???????

[desiibond]

^^afaik, i7 is set to remain a premium processor I don't think it will go below 12k.

[ashu888ashu888]

@ official: the more u keep waiting the more variations u will get in processors, motherboards and especially GPUs so everytime is a right time to buy stuff dear..

as the tech society is such tat everything goes outdated is jus 6months time, also if u wait for the new processors, dnt expect the new processors to be cheap instead the current line of processors will be cheaper as compared to present day prices..
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and i totally agree with desii as intel is set to launch a lower version of its processors with the names core i5 and core i3 and these line of processors wll be a bit less superior to its core i7 counterpart..

so the bottom line is tat ATM... core i7 is the premium processor in the market..



Cheers n e-p-eace....

[mac555]

Originally Posted by official

As Intel releases i7 we thought that we have come to settle for a great processor for couple of years untill Amd releases something...But it seems like nothing is like to last for a quarter as i heard that intel will be releasing 32nm i7 by jan probably...
Do you people think its going to fit in 1366 socket of recent x58 boards????
I just thought of upgrading to i7 this fall 09, but i think its better to wait.
What do you suggest!!
Do you think prices of i7 will fall by any chance???????

i9 will fit in 1366 socket of recent boards which will be top of the line processor....and yes 1366 socket is for enthusiasts.....(high price)

[ashu888ashu888]

i9 ?? my f**king god.. lol.. wen was tat news launched for i9..?? any links..? wait me googling too..(silly me)..lol..

[topgear]

As of now there are only three types of core ix based processors namely
core i7, core i5 & core i3

Core i5 & core i3 have LGA 1156 socket type & core i7 uses LGA 1366 socket type.

but the only exception in core i7 series is core i7 860 & core i7 870 - they use LGA 1156 socket type

[amitash]

@ashu: rumor has it that the new westmere 32nm cores will be called i9...6 cores, 12threads, confirmed to work on our boards.

[desiibond]

First, LGA-1366 is once again set as a platform for another new Intel architecture (westmere)

Second, do LGA-1366 owners have to worry about the future upgrade etc? Am sure that your processors are not yet tested to reveal their full potential. So, chill. An upgrade requirement for you will be atleast 2yrs away and by then, even if LGA 1366 processors are available in the market, you will be so bored of seeing the same mobo everyday and moreover, more and more upgrades would've happened (sata 6G, PCI3, USB3 and lot more).

So, for core i7 owners, it doesn't make any sense to worry about future upgrades

[ashu888ashu888]

thanx all u 3 guys.. topgear, amitash and desii..

yaa, im not at all worried abt any upgrades, not till the next 2 yrs atleast..lol.. jus tat its crazy to see intel launch a huge bombardment of processors on the 1156 and 1366 sockets thereby (again) makin it extremely difficult for new consumers to get easily confused with the various "core ixxx" processors.. lol...

[desiibond]

^^wlcm, here is the article regarding westmere architecture and has Intel slidshow in it.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=668

[ashu888ashu888]

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aah thanx , was lookinf for jus tat right thing..

[topgear]

@ desiibond - thanks for the link buddy

[official]

well then i decided to go for i7...coool!!!

but i donno which ddr3 ram to choose for coz after getting the proc+mobo i'll be having 13k inr left . And i also need to hav a good cabinet for the price.
Plz guys help me.i'm not planning to go beyond 6k for cabinet.
I saw few of the brands like nzxt, thermaltake or coolermaster.
Dunno if they are available in kolkata or not??
I need a good airflow cabinet coz ill be upgrading to gtx295 or something in sli if prices comes down.
does anyone know the cheapest price of gtx295??

[desiibond]

CM 690 should be a great buy for cabinet for 4.5k
go for Corsair or OCZ RAM

also, i think two GTX260's or even two GT250's can easily match GTX295

[topgear]

^I don't think so coz to match the performance of GTX295 you need to have 2x GTX 275 in sli

[official]

Does the cm690 has a side window?? And top fan included in the bundle?
Any cpu cooler with led that aint too costly for i7 & cool too ???
Are nzxt cabinets available in kolkata,I was really impressed with the looks of guardian 921
Dunno about their performance though.
any ati card thats stable and worth mentioning??Are they still suffering the crappy driver issues??I disregarded Ati only for over heating & power + driver issues,otherwise they are best bang for bucks
Does anyone know gtx295 price plz???
Any suggestions are welcome.

[desiibond]

^^there are two models in that. One with transparent side panel and one without. price difference is around 500 bucks I think.

HD4890 and GTX275 are identical. But you better wait another week for HD5850 and HD5870 which are going to be priced at 200$ and 300$. These are 40nm cards like HD4770 and HD4770 runs really really cool and is damn good at power management.

[ashu888ashu888]

Originally Posted by official

Does the cm690 has a side window?? And top fan included in the bundle?
Any cpu cooler with led that aint too costly for i7 & cool too ???
Are nzxt cabinets available in kolkata,I was really impressed with the looks of guardian 921
Dunno about their performance though.
any ati card thats stable and worth mentioning??Are they still suffering the crappy driver issues??I disregarded Ati only for over heating & power + driver issues,otherwise they are best bang for bucks
Does anyone know gtx295 price plz???
Any suggestions are welcome.

yup, as desii said there are 2 models, one with the side panel cutout in glass wich will cost u exactly Rs.4400/- and one without the side panel cutout in glass a.k.a a normal cabinet with the slot for 2 side fans (as compared to jus one side fan in the glass cutout CM690) will cost u Rs.4200/-

see this pic for the CM690 cabinet without the side panel cutout in glass, (the cabinet on the table) the left side if u see carefully, u will see 2 fan slots)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2541/...931fc8d5_b.jpg

(source: The SHOWOFF Thread )
my best of buddies here at TDF: tarey_g's post number 216 in the SHOWOFF thread (chit chat section)

But believe me wen u add LED fans to ur CM690, then a side panel cutout is a MUST as u can see here in my pics (i hv not put the side glass cover ON) but still jus for ur eyes only..lol...

top fan slot-1 with LED's ---> http://img504.imageshack.us/i/dsc01347medium.jpg/
my entire rig (side view) ---> http://img222.imageshack.us/i/dsc01346medium.jpg/

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afaik there are no cpu coolers WITH LEDs.. plz spare the cooler, lol..

the current price of Zotac gtx295 is Rs.29,000/-

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Cheers n e-peace....

[desiibond]

hmm. 30k is damn high price given that GTX275 can drive a FullHD easily without any efforts and it costs half that price.

When the visual difference between GTX275 and GTX295 isn't that much visible, the extra 15k bucks is totally worthless unless you do gaming using a dual monitor setup.

add to that bigger PSU needed.

[ashu888ashu888]

^^ agreed totally, even though im a die hard nVIDIA fan still tat 30K is not justifiable..

i can tcomment on tat issue but amitash has a gts295 monster so maybe he can come and answer here y he needs tat much power ofa gpu.. lol..

also, the minimum and desired psu power required fora single gtx295 (or gtx 280, gtx285) for tat matter is a 650-750W psu (of a good company that is) say tagan or corsair..

[amitash]

^of course it has no value for money...i bought i because:
1. I got it for 25k (around 25-26 not really sure)
2.At that time, the next best thing available was gtx285 for 24k, and then gtx280 for 22k, or the hd4870 which was also 19k.
3.I had the budget for it since i saved alot on RAM and cpu and mobo cus i got it from the US...i paid only around 36k for that...had a budget of 75k for upgrade.
4.i was getting th best of everything anyway...so y not gfx too?

[official]

guys do you think there will be any difference in framerates gtx275 vs gtx295 while playing intensive games like modern warfare 2 suppose..at 1920x1080 via hdmi port with 8x antialiasing???
amitash did you try out gta4 at highest settings in your monster????wats your monitor??
i know i ask a whole lot of questions..but im also planning to get a new 24''lcd with hdmi
if i can get no significant difference between gtx275 and gtx295..ill invest in that.

[ashu888ashu888]

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i guess there is NOT much of a frame rate difference..I hv gtx280 1GB DDR3 gpu and i play crysis and crysis warhead witha reso of 1920 x 1080 and settings at max and i see no frame rate drop (as crysis and warhead are the 2 benchmark games and also farcry 2 for its stunning foliage and beautiful lush green africa settings)

dnt worry, a normal human eye can see full smoothness at jus 30-33 frames per sec, so a normal frame drop say 10-15 frames drop while having a constant fps at 170-180 will not make much of a difference, believe me,

i knw ppl tend to be paranoid for jus 2-3 frames but it will not make the slightest of difference..

and also, u are there to enjoy the game, its graphics and its smoothness and NOT to jus sit there shooting bad guys/aliens with one eye and then also keeping a track at frame rates with the oter eye.... wat say?? lol..

a 22" fullHD ora 24" fullHD lcd wud suit ur cause, but u tis better to hv a good gpu than having a good LCD.. i mean 1st comes the gpu and then a 22+ inch LCD.. (with 22" being the norm these days)...

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my rig update: well tonite as i was posting this reply here, 3 of my cabinet's fans stopped functioning, i swallowed deep..fearing for the worst..lol.. if the 3 fans (one rear, one side and one LED top) were all gone kaput all of a sudden).>??

then checked the connections and the connectors and restarted the system and everything was fine as normal, now i wanna ask is this---- > is it true tat the mobo knows all by itself wich fans to shud down completely if its not required..?? is there any feature tat the mobo does this aut0omatically.. ???

or was it a silver lightening from the dark clouds..?? (tat i shud get worried).>??

the 2 other fans (2nd top LED fan and the cpu stock cooler fans were working wen the other 3 fans shutted down all by itself..) the mobo was showing temp of 50 deg Celcius and the gpu temp was 60 deg C (measured by me using riva tuner) and yes, the gpu fan was also working on the gpu .. lol..
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Cheers n e-peace....

[official]

few of my last questions before i go to order my i7 rig
1. can msi x58 PRO E handle gtx295
2. is gtx295 good choice as birthday present
any gfx (non ATI even if they are dx11..i dont care ) that should be honourable mention,
that can run all games at rapid pace 1920x1200 reso with eye candy (atleast 3 yrs..not upgrading b4 tat).

3.Out of 5 how would you rate MSIx58PROE vs Gigabyte GAEX58UD5 mobo.
4.A good monitor with 1920x1080 reso with great refresh rate and HD(hdmi port) & budget friendly.
4.I know i am demanding a lot but last but not the least
''my uncle thinks his nvidia 7200gs can win over gtx295 hands down''....??? ny one can solve this??? he collects all sorts of junks..has an avid collection of pc antics (shall upload the pics wen im done wit my rig)...lots of homie lov..

[ashu888ashu888]

hmm.. so u still awake..lol.i knw the core i7 mania keeps us all awake..

1.) yup it can handle gtx295 ofcourse it can.. (cant say abt SLi setup i.e 2 x gtx295 or any gpu for that matter)

MSi has released this motherboard with careful understanding and nice thinking...

2.) gtx295 as a b'day present, well it all sepends, most boys want their gf's to be with them but for me i want my tech toys and especially my core i7 rig with me all the time..lol.. on a serious note, "if u hv the cash to blow, then gtx295 is for u bro" as of now, gtx295 pawns all other cards (not talking abt a single gtx295 vs SLi, please)..

3.) MSi ---> 3.5 and UD5 ---> 4 (based on stability of gigabyte mobos, less failure rate and its price to performance ratio).. i knw the MSi X58 was badly criticised way back wen it was released but this new mobo from MSi looks promising, but if u were to ask me abt mobo, then i wud tell u go for UD5.. (u are not into OCing are u..??)

4.) Samsung 2233SW at Rs.10.2K is a fullHD (1920 x 1080) LCD but its NOT with HDMI..
other options wud be these:
(b.) viewsonic vx2433wm 24" @ Rs. 13,000
(c.) BenQ E2200 HD

5.) 7200gs vs. gtx295..?? lol. its like comparing Indian Football team with Brazil... i mena naa, nothing comes close to beating the gtx295, so tell ur uncle (will all respect from my side too..) that he is better off with collecting PC antiqes..
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Cheers n e-peace...

[desiibond]

@official, I would rather go for GTX275 for 14k and get xbox360 or ps3 slim for 15k-20k and that would be much more VFM as I will be able to play lot of exclusive titles that never reach PCs market.

[official]

thanks ashu and desii....u both are correct in the best possible way.
its time for me to consider both of your suggestions..
i'll post when im done with. Till then peace.

[ashu888ashu888]

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all the very best for ur purchases...
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btw, to all guys here: ---> my rig update: well tonite as i was posting this reply here, 3 of my cabinet's fans stopped functioning, i swallowed deep..fearing for the worst..lol.. if the 3 fans (one rear, one side and one LED top) were all gone kaput all of a sudden).>??

then checked the connections and the connectors and restarted the system and everything was fine as normal,

now i wanna ask is this---- > is it true tat the mobo knows all by itself wich fans to shud down completely if its not required..?? is there any feature tat the mobo does this aut0omatically.. ???

or was it a silver lightening from the dark clouds..?? (tat i shud get worried).>??

the 2 other fans (2nd top LED fan and the cpu stock cooler fans were working wen the other 3 fans shutted down all by itself..) the mobo was showing temp of 50 deg Celcius and the gpu temp was 60 deg C (measured by me using riva tuner) and yes, the gpu fan was also working on the gpu .. lol..
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Cheers n e-peace....

[Dant3]

Hi guys,
I'm new here and not entirely sure whether this is the place to be posting this,if not,please drop in a word and I'll gladly remove it.

I'm also,a total ignoramus when it comes to understanding computer hardware.It is because of this reason that I join this forum.My immediate problem being the fact that I need to buy a comp at the earliest since my work has been put on hold.But having bought my last computer years ago..which was a P4,I really am not very aware of the hardware situation in the market now..processors,mobo's etc.

I'd be very grateful if you guys could advice me as to what a good config would be at the moment.My budget is roughly 50k for just the CPU.I don't require a very high-end graphic card.A simple 1 GB card will suffice...(if it lets games like COD6 run when it releases in November this year...YIPPEEE!)Other than that,I'd want to certainly have a mobo that supports atleast 4-6gb DDR3 Ram and if my budget permits,an i7 processor...else whatever is second best.

Thanks a tonne in advance,
Dante!