Topper's Brain is xtraordinary ???

[Zangetsu]

Education has bcome competitive nowadays..when i was in school i used 2 see many
high scorers in exams...with 98 or 99 out of hundred in various subjects.
& used 2 think how they r so damm intelligent..r they gifted by GOD with intelligent
brain...or do they work hard (200% than us)...what such thing i lacked when compared 2 them...didnt i worked hard..didnt i have brain..then wat is the reason
of so much of perfection in them ?

A Topper can only answer my questions ?

[adi007]

i used to be a topper ..
SSLC or 10th matriculation : 96%

I just need to say one thing .."Every Cloud Has a Silver Lining"...
Every guy is different
We have a false notion that the toppers IQ is more than the fail students
This is BS...

All depends upon the way one studies...
It is not dependent upon HOW MANY HOURS u study ....it is dependent upon how u study ... how well u can grasp the things

Some are good in academic performance some in other things...
A one more important thing

No matter how well u know the subject,no matter how well u have studied,no matter how well u have understood the subject... to score good marks the only thing that matters is HOW WELL U DO IN THAT 1 or 3 HRS TIME...
Some times if u have bad luck then u will commit silly mistakes a loose lot of marks...

So just the marks is NOT the measure of intellegence
Nor the aptitude exams
Nor the logic exams

I strongly feel that one cannot measure how intelligent,creative the boy/girl is ..

[Garbage]

lol... no special brain man... You just study well, n u will be one of them.

All the Best.

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by adi007

i used to be a topper ..
SSLC or 10th matriculation : 96%

I got 96 - 20 = 76%

so see u r 20% intellegent than me...

Originally Posted by adi007

Every guy is different

True

Originally Posted by adi007

All depends upon the way one studies...
It is not dependent upon HOW MANY HOURS u study ....it is dependent upon how u study ... how well u can grasp the things

So, a topper has strong memory

Originally Posted by adi007

No matter how well u know the subject,no matter how well u have studied,no matter how well u have understood the subject... to score good marks the only thing that matters is HOW WELL U DO IN THAT 1 or 3 HRS TIME...
Some times if u have bad luck then u will commit silly mistakes a loose lot of marks...

+ a topper has Good Luck also

Originally Posted by adi007

So just the marks is NOT the measure of intellegence
Nor the aptitude exams
Nor the logic exams

Then y is this chaos of exams.....
OH examination what a botheration!!!

Originally Posted by adi007

I strongly feel that one cannot measure how intelligent,creative the boy/girl is ..

We can measure...by adding Prefixes such as Dr. Albert Einstein

[adi007]

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

I got 96 - 20 = 76%

so see u r 20% intellegent than me...

haha....
what if i say
intelligence is inversely proportional to marks

So, a topper has strong memory

hell no.... i said the topper employs some method that make him work well in xams..
the same method if employed by others might not work..
As i said diff methods for diff people ....

Then y is this chaos of exams.....
OH examination what a botheration!!!

Coz we have marks minded teachers,parents,exam board

We can measure...by adding Prefixes such as Dr. Albert Einstein

ROFL..

talking about Einstein,he had very very poor memory...
He was made not to attend classes coz he was BELIEVED to be poor in studies..
His mom taught everything in home..

Actually whatever happened was for good coz i think if he had attended schools he might not have been able to find so many things he found

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by adi007

haha....
what if i say
intelligence is inversely proportional to marks

But finally a topper is recognized by his marks....ryt..

Originally Posted by adi007

talking about Einstein,he had very very poor memory...
He was made not to attend classes coz he was BELIEVED to be poor in studies..
His mom taught everything in home..

Actually whatever happened was for good coz i think if he had attended schools he might not have been able to find so many things he found

But he had brain different from all of us..so he was gr8

[adi007]

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

But he had brain different from all of us..so he was gr8

i strongly disagree..
He was(is) gr8 because he thinked differently
His approach was different

AND I Forgot to say one thing

"Doctors after the death of Einstein examined his brain by dissecting it ....They found that half of his brain didn't used to work at full capacity from HIS BIRTH ITSELF..."
Actually i have read this some time ago ... there was some technical word used to describe this but i have forgotten...

So his brain was not normal ...it was below normal...yes it was below normal

[DigitalDude]

not necessarily.

Theorem: Being a topper is not a sufficient condition to derive that the person is intelligent.

Proof: After studying in the second top engineering college in chennai, I can surely say that the theorem and its corollary, both, are true.

_

Originally Posted by adi007

...
AND I Forgot to say one thing

"Doctors after the death of Einstein examined his brain by dissecting it ....They found that half of his brain didn't used to work at full capacity from HIS BIRTH ITSELF..."
Actually i have read this some time ago ... there was some technical word used to describe this but i have forgotten...

So his brain was not normal ...it was below normal...yes it was below normal

that would probably be his left brain (that deals with logic).. einstein is predominantly a right brain person as he values creativity and imagination more than knowledge

_

[Charan]

People always used to say that I was smart ( No self boasting ).. I some how managed to flunk in my exams every now and then

[furious_gamer]

Originally Posted by adi007

i used to be a topper ..
SSLC or 10th matriculation : 96%

I just need to say one thing .."Every Cloud Has a Silver Lining"...
Every guy is different
We have a false notion that the toppers IQ is more than the fail students
This is BS...

All depends upon the way one studies...
It is not dependent upon HOW MANY HOURS u study ....it is dependent upon how u study ... how well u can grasp the things

Some are good in academic performance some in other things...
A one more important thing

No matter how well u know the subject,no matter how well u have studied,no matter how well u have understood the subject... to score good marks the only thing that matters is HOW WELL U DO IN THAT 1 or 3 HRS TIME...
Some times if u have bad luck then u will commit silly mistakes a loose lot of marks...

So just the marks is NOT the measure of intellegence
Nor the aptitude exams
Nor the logic exams

I strongly feel that one cannot measure how intelligent,creative the boy/girl is ..

Well said......
I use to score above 90% till my tenth std but in XII i got just 70%.... Where it goes?
This depends on how we study things and the best is we must atleast study.. Yes, i am not even touch any books in my XII Board exams..

But now i am getting smarter by days and i got all sufficient info by self studying...
With some nice pay too..

Moral of the Story : So intelligence not depends on marks

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by rajkumar_pb

I use to score above 90% till my tenth std but in XII i got just 70%.... Where it goes?
This depends on how we study things and the best is we must atleast study.. Yes, i am not even touch any books in my XII Board exams..

So u downgraded 2 90-70% = 20%
c u got less bcoz of less hardwork...

then how they get Highest percentages....
IMO:
not nebody can bcome a topper....

To bcome a topper u must have these things:
1) Very Sharp Mind/IQ
2) Hard-Working
3) Good Luck

Originally Posted by rajkumar_pb

But now i am getting smarter by days and i got all sufficient info by self studying...

Dats bcoz u have matured...

Originally Posted by rajkumar_pb

Moral of the Story : So intelligence not depends on marks

True..but the vice-versa is false...

[adi007]

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

then how they get Highest percentages....
IMO:
not nebody can bcome a topper....

To bcome a topper u must have these things:
1) Very Sharp Mind/IQ
2) Hard-Working
3) Good Luck

I agree with 3
Partially agree with 2 coz sometimes those who have not worked hard will get good marks(coz of their method of learning and luck... not by IQ)
Completely disagree with 1

IMO everyone can become a topper if he finds and works by the method he will get good marks and have good luck or atleast no bad luck

I am the kind of person who believes that their is no thing like IQ,intelligence,high memory power....

[hullap]

toppers in our class are the kids who just *rattafy* the whole book

[Chirag]

Well some people sure got better stuff up there.. My friend never studies...NEVER.. still scores the most among all of us. Not that we are dumb

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by adi007

IMO everyone can become a topper if he finds and works by the method he will get good marks and have good luck or atleast no bad luck

Its just a thought & not a actual thing
Have u seen in class of 50 Students...getting same marks...if we leave all our
comments aside...

[furious_gamer]

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

So u downgraded 2 90-70% = 20%
c u got less bcoz of less hardwork...

That means no hardwork at all...

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

then how they get Highest percentages....
IMO:
not nebody can bcome a topper....

Partially true, but one of my friend who is currently employed in HoneyWell used to fail in chemistry at all test and he got second highest mark in our school... And he did his engg in a reputed college in TN and got placed there.. What u say here?

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

To bcome a topper u must have these things:
1) Very Sharp Mind/IQ
2) Hard-Working
3) Good Luck

IQ was completely diff from the topic...
Good luck and a lil bit of hard work is enough if u have the power to understand things... No need to hard work like mugging up the whole book.. Thats B$

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

Dats bcoz u have matured...

Of course u r rite...

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

True..but the vice-versa is false...

I already explain that...

[Psychosocial]

lol........ being topper just requires luck. I am dumbo (many here know that) and still I am a topper ().... I had my exams recently and guess what I did ? I played COD4 for 4 hours every day and then what happened ? Luckily I topped out with 92% while all those hard workers were staring in disbelief...... lol!!

[Chirag]

^^
Well its not about luck. If you pay attention in class and sleep all day at house, still you can top. It just depends on your understanding. You are in Gujarat, right?? Stateboard kya?

[Psychosocial]

LOL.......I am in ICSE!!! And I sleep in class too....... especially in Maths (damn subject... just ****ing hate it!).

[comp@ddict]

^^^

Just one thing.

Everyone is unique, there's not much of a difference between a 90% scorer and a 70% scorer. The 70% scorer might be able to do things the 90% scorer falters at big time.

[krazzy]

LOL! I used to be a topper in school. Back then, studies used to be everything for me. But ever since I got interested in tech stuff, my attention got diverted there and the concentration on studies reduced. Now I just manage to pass.

[n2casey]

Well, this is my personal experience that average marks (60-65%) or more than average is OK. We shud work hard, not to *rattafy* but to understand things properly.

From 6th Std I decided to become an Engg. From 4th Std I was very much interested in Maths, but I was very poor in Bio (Even I hated bio a lot coz I hate *rattafication*). After 10th Std I have chosen my Subjects as Math, Physics & Chemistry so finally got rid of Bio. I scored good in 10th & 12th & after 12th I prepared for Engg. & got selected but due to some reasons I got Biotechnology Branch ( again Bio) in a private college.
But still I was studying Maths & Computers in parallel coz of my interest. I worked hard (just to score in Bio) & I got distinction marks in B.E. (Biotechnology).

Now I m working in a Software Company as a Tech Lead (I have only 1.5 yrs of Experience in Software Ind.) & two NIT passout Engg. who scored much more than me r working under me.

Now what will u say, am I very intelligent??????

I think anyone can be like me or more brilliant than me, it depends on his way of study & thinking.

To remember things u can make thing easier like in maths, just to remember,

SinA = Perpendicular/ Hypotenuse
CosA = Base/ Hypotenuse
TanA = Perpendicular/ Base
CotA = 1/ TanA
......

I just remembered short form like

PBP/ HHB

& just by inverting it (HHB / PBP) will give u CosecA, SecA & CotA.

So, just make ur own easier way to remember & understand and be a good learner, scorer.

[furious_gamer]

^^ Well said...
esp i like ur siggy...

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by n2casey

Well, this is my personal experience that average marks (60-65%) or more than average is OK. We shud work hard, not to *rattafy* but to understand things properly.

From 6th Std I decided to become an Engg. From 4th Std I was very much interested in Maths, but I was very poor in Bio (Even I hated bio a lot coz I hate *rattafication*). After 10th Std I have chosen my Subjects as Math, Physics & Chemistry so finally got rid of Bio. I scored good in 10th & 12th & after 12th I prepared for Engg. & got selected but due to some reasons I got Biotechnology Branch ( again Bio) in a private college.
But still I was studying Maths & Computers in parallel coz of my interest. I worked hard (just to score in Bio) & I got distinction marks in B.E. (Biotechnology).

Now I m working in a Software Company as a Tech Lead (I have only 1.5 yrs of Experience in Software Ind.) & two NIT passout Engg. who scored much more than me r working under me.

Now what will u say, am I very intelligent??????

I think anyone can be like me or more brilliant than me, it depends on his way of study & thinking.

To remember things u can make thing easier like in maths, just to remember,

SinA = Perpendicular/ Hypotenuse
CosA = Base/ Hypotenuse
TanA = Perpendicular/ Base
CotA = 1/ TanA
......

I just remembered short form like

PBP/ HHB

& just by inverting it (HHB / PBP) will give u CosecA, SecA & CotA.

So, just make ur own easier way to remember & understand and be a good learner, scorer.

Well i agree by ur post..& i even agree dat hardworking do works 2 get good marks
so, shud i assume dat those who gets very less marks do not work hard or has less understanding

[furious_gamer]

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

Well i agree by ur post..& i even agree dat hardworking do works 2 get good marks

Cant argue for that... You are rite...

Originally Posted by KaranTh85

so, shud i assume dat those who gets very less marks do not work hard or has less understanding

But sometimes even a hard worker too got low marks...

[iinfi]

folks plz dont worry. its not necessary to get good marks in the examinations to prove you are intelligent.
to prove whether you are intelligent or not you only have to shake a bit and visit a pathologist.
trust me ... if you dont ... jus read THIS THREAD
if u have a good healthy count then you are intelligent

[IronManForever]

Well. In my opinion there are a lot of factors. Many which we we do not know of.

I used to be and am sharp. Now I aint boasting but I feel that underestimating oneself and saying that I am not good is so passe.

Alright; I used to get good marks(not great) in my primary levels. Sometimes I topped but I was most of the time in the top5 among 50s. In my 7-8 my marks got lesser (was bad in nepali ) but still the positon was within top 5. In 10th I crapped up and got 74. I stood @ 15th postion. But it didnt mean that I knew any less. Maybe I did not pay attention to fortify whatever I knew; maybe what I read nicely did not come in exams. Maybe I just got unlucky. I dont know. Perhaps I didnt work hard.

I was good in Science; fair enough in Maths; good in English(due to which I did not pay attention and didnt get the best marks ).

In my 12th the situation worsened. I got 66% and barely passed maths (39 ). But I know more maths than our topper who scored in 80s. How? Strange, isnt it? And I'm serious.
Our topper used to fail maths in 7-8. He used to come in 20s postion. By the time we reached 10 and then 12. He became one of the toppers. He memorised alot and worked hard. I failed to do so. He fortified his stuff. Whereas my castles were made up of sand.

Now I really hate when people say that..; Oh! hes a stupido, he just memorises and understands nothing! Common guys; Isnt working hard and being able to memorise also a commendable task? He deserves to be a topper.

Anyways, Ive given my 2cents.

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by iinfi

folks plz dont worry. its not necessary to get good marks in the examinations to prove you are intelligent.
to prove whether you are intelligent or not you only have to shake a bit and visit a pathologist.
trust me ... if you dont ... jus read THIS THREAD
if u have a good healthy count then you are intelligent

^^ lolz

But dats not the ans 4 our doubts...

Originally Posted by IronManForever

Well. In my opinion there are a lot of factors. Many which we we do not know of.

I used to be and am sharp. Now I aint boasting but I feel that underestimating oneself and saying that I am not good is so passe.

Alright; I used to get good marks(not great) in my primary levels. Sometimes I topped but I was most of the time in the top5 among 50s. In my 7-8 my marks got lesser (was bad in nepali ) but still the positon was within top 5. In 10th I crapped up and got 74. I stood @ 15th postion. But it didnt mean that I knew any less. Maybe I did not pay attention to fortify whatever I knew; maybe what I read nicely did not come in exams. Maybe I just got unlucky. I dont know. Perhaps I didnt work hard.

I was good in Science; fair enough in Maths; good in English(due to which I did not pay attention and didnt get the best marks ).

In my 12th the situation worsened. I got 66% and barely passed maths (39 ). But I know more maths than our topper who scored in 80s. How? Strange, isnt it? And I'm serious.
Our topper used to fail maths in 7-8. He used to come in 20s postion. By the time we reached 10 and then 12. He became one of the toppers. He memorised alot and worked hard. I failed to do so. He fortified his stuff. Whereas my castles were made up of sand.

Now I really hate when people say that..; Oh! hes a stupido, he just memorises and understands nothing! Common guys; Isnt working hard and being able to memorise also a commendable task? He deserves to be a topper.

Anyways, Ive given my 2cents.

Hey ironman,where r u from(where do u live...) ???

[IronManForever]

[Zangetsu]

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