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Old 26-02-2008, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is a PDF file that will give an idea of what Open Office is and hopefully make a switch if they feel like.

Here's the download link from the original authors site: http://www.fanaticattack.com/Switchi...OpenOffice.pdf
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Shell we consider this as advertising OpenOffice.org?
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Shell we consider this as advertising OpenOffice.org?
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So, tell me, you had a question about advertising?
We're allowed to Link to our Blogs in our Signatures , same does not apply to posts .

Advertising in Posts is not allowed . {I'm not saying this post is an ad }
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Ya, I am telling people about my blog & also telling them my award. I am also not advertising any Microsoft product in my signature.

You are not telling people about your blog & not telling them about some award. You are telling them about an OSS Product & telling them to switch, in a manner advertising them.
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You are not telling people about your blog & not telling them about some award. You are telling them about an OSS Product & telling them to switch, in a manner advertising them.


OMG! and do you have any idea how many 1000's I earn by advertising opensource alternatives from somebody's blog here

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I guess everyone is doing it regardless of the rules

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Advertising in Posts is not allowed . I'm not saying this post is an ad
Thank you, and I guess that answers @gx's question.
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Shell we consider this as advertising OpenOffice.org?
lol.....Cyrus dude chill............hes joking
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lol.....Cyrus dude chill............hes joking
I know.. but at the same time, he wishes that somebody starts thinking it's propaganda
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Here is a PDF file that will give an idea of what Open Office is and hopefully make a switch if they feel like.

Here's the download link from the original authors site: http://www.fanaticattack.com/Switchi...OpenOffice.pdf
And the point is?? I think this is where F/OSS gets a bad name. Instead of making statements like "Switch from MS Office" a title like "What can OOo do?" would've been better.

Instead of showing something in bad light, highlighting one's own merits can do a lot of good. And if someone thinks I'm MS Office user then its wrong! I am a full-time OOo user on Windows as well as on GNU/Linux.
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he wishes that somebody starts thinking it's propaganda
which even the smartest of individuals with the sharpest of intellect can confirm to

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And the point is?? I think this is where F/OSS gets a bad name. Instead of making statements like "Switch from MS Office" a title like "What can OOo do?" would've been better.

Instead of showing something in bad light, highlighting one's own merits can do a lot of good. And if someone thinks I'm MS Office user then its wrong! I am a full-time OOo user on Windows as well as on GNU/Linux.
Totally True . Putting forward one's benefits is much more than showing the other's pitfalls .

Especially , campaigns like BadVista , by organizations such as FSF only decreases their own merits .
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which even a dumb fcuk* can confirm to

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Yes, and its STILL a part of thinkdigit forum. And the rules apply here too. What do you mean by that statement of yours? Just because its chit chat, you can do whatever you like? You JUST came out of your ban, and going by the looks of it, you haven't learned anything.. Im not taking any action this time. But you know it yourself, this was a good enough reason to ban you again.
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Totally True . Putting forward one's benefits is much more than showing the other's pitfalls .

Especially , campaigns like BadVista , by organizations such as FSF only decreases their own merits .
Why only Badvista? What about "Know the Facts" and "How to remove Linux" and "Linux is a cancer" attempts by MS?

You want a fair trial, round it off both ways!
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Yes, and its STILL a part of thinkdigit forum. And the rules apply here too. What do you mean by that statement of yours? Just because its chit chat, you can do whatever you like? You JUST came out of your ban, and going by the looks of it, you haven't learned anything.. Im not taking any action this time. But you know it yourself, this was a good enough reason to ban you again.
oh yeah i forgot i was at think-anti-ms.com/forums sorry my bad, editing my previous post
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Ok.. The flames end now.. I guess what Cyrus meant is now clear from the entire discussion. Infra's post gave us a little insight on it too. Now there is no reason to fight on this.

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And the point is?? I think this is where F/OSS gets a bad name. Instead of making statements like "Switch from MS Office" a title like "What can OOo do?" would've been better.

Instead of showing something in bad light, highlighting one's own merits can do a lot of good. And if someone thinks I'm MS Office user then its wrong! I am a full-time OOo user on Windows as well as on GNU/Linux.

I was just posting the document which I thought would be helpful. Now it's turned out to be an all out OS fight! BTW, I can't change the title of the actual document, can I? hence the reason I stuck with it.

@guys who are fighting here, if you don't get it, let me repeat it. It's just a document how anyone scared to make the transition from MS office to open office can do it. If you think it would help you, read the document else sthu Don't turn this into Windows v/s Linux when this has nothing to do with either one of them.
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Even the test is flawed. The guy is comparing the UI of OpenOffice.org latest version with Office 2003 . WTH.....Office 2007 UI makes everything much easier, no more need to dig through all the menus.

Not only that, he compares Office 2003 but says "Office 2007 document format will not open in old computers"...ever heard about Office 2007 compatibility pack for office 2003?

Now, if this isn't plain FUD & advertising...I don't know how else to define it.
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Even the test is flawed. The guy is comparing the UI of OpenOffice.org latest version with Office 2003 .
Yeah that did seem kind of strange and not fair :S .

I dont have MS Office 2007 so out of curiosity can I customize the UI (the shortcut icons etc) in it? I heard somewhere it doesnt allow that. Im not saying its a flaw Im just curious.

For the OS Product war people. Give it a rest already.
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Are you trying to provoke me?
no, im not trying to provoke u, but only trying to bring to attention the fact that u chose to nitpick a word i used which was a general term and u know as good as i do that in the context i used it, it was directed at no 1, on the other hand u having read infra's reply and recommending others to read infra's reply did not even mention or do what infra suggested and chose to blindly ignore the provocative title that has been used insipite of knowing how things happen here. Oh damn i just turned to the left of my screen and noticed ur avatar

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As long as OpenOffice is not flawlessly compatible with Office 2007 and is able to produce OpenXML format documents and presentations which work flawlessly in Office 2007...I'm not going to look at it also. For me, the only reason to use Office is producing reports and presentations and doing excel statistics stuff...90% of my assignments are done in group works, and 100% are submitted to lecturers who use Office 2007. Using Open Office basically prevents me from working on these files efficiently. Yes, I know getting them to send it in the old 2003 format would work, but when you are in a group of 8-9 people and you are the only one using the other software, no one cares...
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Even the test is flawed. The guy is comparing the UI of OpenOffice.org latest version with Office 2003 . WTH.....Office 2007 UI makes everything much easier, no more need to dig through all the menus.

Not only that, he compares Office 2003 but says "Office 2007 document format will not open in old computers"...ever heard about Office 2007 compatibility pack for office 2003?

Now, if this isn't plain FUD & advertising...I don't know how else to define it.
Dude, get a life, this is not a review or a head to head comparison to anything, this is just an article for helping anyone make the switch. Stop your cr@p whining at once before it's reported and try somewhere else to start a fight.

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no, im not trying to provoke u, but only trying to bring to attention the fact that u chose to nitpick a word i used which was a general term and u know as good as i do that in the context i used it, it was directed at no 1, on the other hand u having read infra's reply and recommending others to read infra's reply did not even mention or do what infra suggested and chose to blindly ignore the provocative title that has been used insipite of knowing how things happen here. Oh damn i just turned to the left of my screen and noticed ur avatar

'nuff said
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All those fighting here.. temme frankly how many of you actually read the pdf?

The author has simply ruined the whole thing! After page 4 or so there is no mention of "switch from MSO" etc. All the next 9 pages highlight the features of OOo. It'd haf been better if he'd titled it "OOo features".

Ther interface hasn't been compared. The author says that anyone familiar with MSO inteface can get his/her way thru in OOo (obviously MSO has retained the same interface since years and only now made a switch).

SO BEFORE FIGHTING HERE LIKE FOOLS, ITS BETTER IF YOU ALL GO THRU WHATS BEEN POSTED.

Sure MS Office can't be replaced where VBA is put to use (thanks to Charan for reminding abut VBA) but at least small firms' HR/Admin dept. shouldn't find much of a problem in switching. Nobody needs a full blown office for typing letters. So what I think is that switch should be made where it can. But using assertive words, showing the rival product in bad light and then preaching about the product is folly and being shameless.

I hate the 'badvista' (FSF) and 'linux is cancer'(MS) campaigns. It just shows how cheap those ******* are!
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how about going thru the article before posting it here and then giving it an appropriate title and then posting it
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^^^ I dont' think thats appropriate. Changing original titles is a bad practice. I was not pointing about Cyrus, but was referring to the original author of the document.
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o cmon ani there are ways of posting,give an appropriate title acc. to u as u are not quoting some life changing or an influential individual's post. if 1 actually needs to do things ethically, politically and morally correct then the original title should be given in the beginning of the post with as a link to the original text and followed by an excerpt of the article in quote because now u are quoting an individual
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I didn't go through the pdf at all !! But I use Open Office in all PCs in my office and in my laptop and I am quite satisfied with it.

There may be things which Open Office can't do or things which are only in MS office, but for common man, Open Office is quite adequate. I have a wide variety of friends (form Civil Engineer to an Ice cream manufacturer) who use Open Office more than me and they never had any problems using that.

What my point is, a lot of people can switch to OO as it will be enough for their needs. For people who really need to use MS Office because of certain features (like Infra said - the VB features as example), do not go for OO (of course not majority considering Indian scenario) plus those who support MS and love to use MS products always - use MS office happily !

@kalpik

IMav is one of my great friends. And I know he is one of the most immature guy in this forum whos an expert in provoking others too !!! He was warned / suspended many times because of that but he continues. Best way is to ignore him in most cases and yes I know as you are a mod, you can't ignore everything, was just telling though.

Back to the topic - Do not follow something blindly. Use your brains. Use all products that we come across. If OO is quite adequate for you, use that (instead of using pirated MS Office of other commercial stuff). If it is not ok for you, go for other products, do not blindly rely on any review or any company. As simple as it.
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no, im not trying to provoke u, but only trying to bring to attention the fact that u chose to nitpick a word i used which was a general term and u know as good as i do that in the context i used it, it was directed at no 1, on the other hand u having read infra's reply and recommending others to read infra's reply did not even mention or do what infra suggested and chose to blindly ignore the provocative title that has been used insipite of knowing how things happen here. Oh damn i just turned to the left of my screen and noticed ur avatar

'nuff said
I was not nitpicking on the word you used. I was nitpicking at the sentence you used after that word (*this is chit chat, and i can do whatever the hell i want here*). iMav, try to learn to respect other users on this forum.

You have earned yourself an infarction.

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IMav is one of my great friends. And I know he is one of the most immature guy in this forum whos an expert in provoking others too !!! He was warned / suspended many times because of that but he continues. Best way is to ignore him in most cases and yes I know as you are a mod, you can't ignore everything, was just telling though.
Din, I know that very well. That is exactly the reason why im not banning him again I have nothing against ANYONE on this forum. But he's gotta learn how to behave on public forums. Maybe you can help him?

For the records, i do use OpenOffice on linux, but yeah in office an all we use MS Office only.

P.S.: My resume doesnt open properly in OpenOffice
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@kalpik: remember my PM ? you should have moderated looooooong back, copied the contents of the pdf to the first post(to let ppl kno whats in da pdf), removed offending stuff and put this in tutorials.

how the hell can a simple guide cause an OS flame war ?
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Oh noooooooo !!!!!

If you ask me to count the stars, I will do it, but advising iMav ? I gave up that long back, now who said "Nothing is impossible", I just found something that is impossible lol.
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I hope you do understand theres a fine line between a persons life and the time he spends on this forum. Not to mention I think hes doing a good job of moderating considering he just joined the list of new mods. If I posted a link to a 100 page document would you expect him to go read all 100 pages and then edit it to fit a thread. Be realistic hes a mod not Flash (the super hero).
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