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Old 22-11-2007, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking I have BSNL 8 Mbps connection.




As u can see even though my connection is Home 500 2Mbps.BSNL is so damn nice that its providing me with 8Mbps connection.Well u might as well think that 8Mbps is good but to be true its pretty much impossible to get a stable connection with 8Mbps speed in ADSL 1.I checked the speed of one of my friend's Home 500 plan using the same modem (he's got a connection from the same exchange as i do) and found that his speed was 2048(2Mbps Down and 256Kbps up).So what's the idea I have.

WHEN BSNL SETS ITS SPEED TO 8Mbps many BSNL USERS WILL HAVE SYNCING PROBLEMS WITH THE EXCHANGE,AS A RESULT THE BROADBAND CONNECTION WILL BECOME UNSTABLE AND ULTIMATELY BSNL WILL HAVE TO REVERT BACK TO 2Mbps.ASKING 8Mbps FROM BSNL IS ASKING TOO MUCH.

My Snr Margin value is alright for 2Mbps connection(anything above 15 is good).
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Old 22-11-2007, 07:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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^^wow!!!!
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Old 22-11-2007, 07:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^^Believe me this is what's gonna happen.I don't know which idiot at the main exchange set my speed to 8Mbps but i am having syncing problems since then.
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Cool...
I get 2.5 to 3Mbps sometimes...
But 8Mbps is insane man..
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Old 22-11-2007, 07:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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@ Harvik780, please perform a speed check in www.speedtest.net and post the result
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Old 22-11-2007, 07:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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^^Which server do you recommend??
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The ones in yellow will be good..
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Old 22-11-2007, 08:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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This is the speed i am getting on most servers(including the recommended one)due to syncing problems.



My link is responding very poorly.I have complained several time and changed my line 3 times by bugging the exchange office.
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Are! Lahore,paki ones are waste,try singapore or some us mirrors or even mumbai
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^ thats it
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Ummm... Do you call this 8Mbps????
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Old 22-11-2007, 08:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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@ nvidia, lol yeah.. thats why i said him to perform a speed check in speedtest.net
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No i call this cheating consumers and harassing them mentally for 5 months.
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No i call this cheating consumers and harassing them mentally for 5 months.
Cheating consumers??
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Old 22-11-2007, 08:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think that is different thing.
Right now I am siting on a friend PC having 128 Kbps Airtel broadband connection.

Here also, downstream is 2559 Kbps
upstream is 572 Kbps

But, it doesn't mean he is on 2 Mbps connection.That must be something different.
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Old 22-11-2007, 09:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: I have BSNL 8 Mbps connection.

As mentioned in few other posts, BSNL has already started carrying out 8Mbps trials and started upgrading few lines, so it's not a surprise.

However, as @Harvik780 suggested, there are going to by synchronisations problems. But, this will be there only during intial stages of testing. Normally, when a line is shifted to 8Mbps, the line goes through something called a stabilization period which can last anywhere between 5-15days. During this time, the BRAS and DSLAM work with something called RAMBO to monitor the line connectivity, dropouts, SNR levels, throughput and synch speeds. All the data is collected during this time and the line is tested by the exchange equipment automatically with several different synch speeds, decrease/increase SNR margins until it finds a stable rate at which the line can perform. Some ISP's call this rate as MSR or Maximum stable rate.

So, it's going to take time for the tests to pass through however, in @Harvik780's case I think, although they are testing his line with higher synchronisation speeds, his TCP/IP throughput is still capped at below 2Mbps so that he doesn't take BSNL for a ride , hence the test results turning out to be what is posted.

@Harvik780, if you got time, please make a log of the synchronisation speeds and speedtest on a New York server every 6hrs for the next few days so that we can know what it's really going to end up on. Also make a note of the no. of synchronisation drops.
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No i call this cheating consumers and harassing them mentally for 5 months.
but unfortunately, you cant do anything about it, since their entire life rests on the word UPTO
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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any idea when is BSNL rolling out this BSNL 8Mbps?
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wats the big deal ?? i think

2 Mbps = 2048 Kbps ................
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Old 22-11-2007, 11:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This is the speed i am getting on most servers(including the recommended one)due to syncing problems.



My link is responding very poorly.I have complained several time and changed my line 3 times by bugging the exchange office.
YOu check BSNL query thread, may be you can get help.


About seeing those figures, it simply means that your line can handle upto 8mbps stuff, when dataone was launched initially, they had done most of the line with 8mbps capacity but later found that its not possible on current bsnl infrastruture so they reverted back..

anyways.. rolling out 8mbps is not possible for bsnl.. but ya can do in new areas.. where they hv new infra!
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Old 22-11-2007, 11:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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@Harvik780 Arent u the one who had started a topic on VT.com? Stating negligence from BSNL's part !!??
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whts the use of 8 Mbps speed for home purpose..when there is download limit.
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I am on Airtel 256 I get 275 down and 250 Up.Thats enough for me.And its quite stable for me
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I am on Airtel 256 I get 275 down and 250 Up.Thats enough for me.And its quite stable for me
yaa..Airtel is really a good ISP..and best when it comes customer support and service.

I am also on Airtel BB, 256 unlimited connection..and I also get around 300 kbps speed.
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@Harvik780 Arent u the one who had started a topic on VT.com? Stating negligence from BSNL's part !!??
Yup.I am sick of going to the BSNL office again and again.
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Can anyone guess
what is my connection speed ???

here's my result

1st attempt


from New York

2nd attempt




and 3rd attempt

From London
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Yes the internet service providers in india is not up to date uptill now be it BSNL on any other providers. I have used BSNL and Airtel as well and the speed is always the demand which they are not able to give us of what they have promised.
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@satyamy ..who is ur ISP???
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This is my BSNL DataOne ADSL Line Status as my modem shows.

Statistics --- Downstream/Upstream

Line Rate --- 2048 Kbps/256 Kbps
Attainable Line Rate --- 8203 Kbps/1036 Kbps
Noise Margin --- 29.8 dB/31.0 dB
Line Attenuation --- 37.0 dB/20.5 dB
Output Power --- 15.4 dBm/12.0 dBm


I think that my ADSL line can attain ~8mbps download and ~1mbps upload speed. I live in Gurgaon. But I personally think that BSNL is not going to make a big mistake to roll out 8mbps to every single user regardless of their plans (except Unlimited) like they are giving 2mbps to everyone (except those on Unlimited plan) at the moment. They are not going put strain on their servers only for those who are paying Rs.250 per month (Startup Plan 250) and give them 8mbps. And even I think that they will not give 8mbps to Home 500 (Rs. 500/month). I don't exactly know, but they may give 8mbps to everyone.

But I don't care about download. Its the upload speed which matters me the most. We need to get upload speed far more than 256kbps (which we get at the moment). Probably they may give 1mbps (what I am assuming by seeing my line status) to 8mbps customers. But for those who seed torrents, do you think that 1mbps is enough??. I personally think that their 8mbps plan will cost Rs.1000+. They also need to improve upon their 2am-8am Night Unlimited time slot. Lets hope for the good from BSNL (because we can't hope the best)!

How many of you agree with me????
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