organic chem woes

[Ihatemyself]

Hey guys as u know org chem is considered deadly by mny students...itz not boring 4 me though ..i need sum help 4 my studies can i get a list of all reagents , catalysts with their functions/uses ,examples ,conditions ...for +2 level and competitive exams..i know it is way too difficult but if i get it at one place it would rly help me out..i have tried googling and got miserable results..so plz help me out

[Sykora]

Googleing almost _never_ produces miserable results in my experience.

Anyway, here are some of my findings : http://del.icio.us/sykora/Chemistry

You can search further for chemistry at del.icio.us

[Ihatemyself]

i think u didnt get me..i have textbooks for organic chem...i want a list of all reagents , catalysts with their functions/uses ,examples ,conditions...so that i can have some basic idea of what they can do when practicing..i want a summary(mind map) ...i dont want theory..thanx though

'Googleing almost _never_ produces miserable results in my experience.'-
yes mine too but sometimes u cant get precisely wat u want

[Sykora]

Check the link I gave you.

Otherwise, it's best to create that mind map yourself.

[Nav11aug]

dude, forget online content .Go get some good books. As for competitive exams at +2 level, get Solomons & Fryhle or Morrison & Boyd. Both of them are awesome. Though you might start off with M&B and then move on to S&F

[Sykora]

I thought he just said that he _had_ textbooks?

[Nav11aug]

oh _damn_ ... my mistake...

And if all you want is a list, why don't you compile it yourself ?

[Faun]

Yeah Morrison and Boyd is the choice to make organic chemistry interesting.

Its a must have book for serious preparation, i never had to cram reactions after reading this book.

A combination of this book and an objective competitive(say Dinesh's) exam book will be a killer.

Then if u want to go further then Finar is next.

[Nav11aug]

yup.. Finar is advanced than M&B

[shady_inc]

I always hated,hate and will continue to hate this stupid subject .Physics and maths are far more real and closer to you in practical life.Can't stay awake for more than 15 mins in any organic chemistry lecture :yawn:.

[Ihatemyself]

my concepts r clear..i dont need no books .Morrison and Boyd..thanx 4 suggestion i have this book..i just wanted what i have told before..precise... yes i have tried creating them myself but all of them will make me reread everythin again......and i hav other subjects too..so just wanted that! if someone has got any such list or mind maps..plz help me out

'A combination of this book and an objective competitive(say Dinesh's) exam book will be a killer.' of time ..i hav only 5 months and want to do as much maths as possible

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

'A combination of this book and an objective competitive(say Dinesh's) exam book will be a killer.' of time ..i hav only 5 months and want to do as much maths as possible

lol

you sholud hav clearly stated that u hav so much less time

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

my concepts r clear..i dont need no books .Morrison and Boyd..thanx 4 suggestion i have this book..i just wanted what i have told before..precise... yes i have tried creating them myself but all of them will make me reread everythin again......and i hav other subjects too..so just wanted that! if someone has got any such list or mind maps..plz help me out

'A combination of this book and an objective competitive(say Dinesh's) exam book will be a killer.' of time ..i hav only 5 months and want to do as much maths as possible

Then there is something known as Raj Bapna's Memory Maps

They are highly priced. You will get lots of memory maps and visual diagarams with some shortcuts to remember.

I wont recommend them if you can't shell out that amount of money. 56 page book is priced something like Rs.500.

And dont you make notes after reading books ???

[Nav11aug]

damn. i never thought "memory maps" were available commercially

[Ihatemyself]

yeah raj bapna's mind maps....nothing beats them in being nonsense...i make notes but relating all of them to find sumthing common will cost me dearly.so no avail..well i am actually facing trouble in dce previous year questions.. iit is easier (snds funny) yesterday i gave a test and was able to get 12 questions in 13 of mixed iit orgn. chem questions.. while merely 8 were correct in 13 for dce..so i need to cram some tricks and what reagents do(in iit there is more of concept i think)...

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

yeah raj bapna's mind maps....nothing beats them in being nonsense...i make notes but relating all of them to find sumthing common will cost me dearly.so no avail..well i am actually facing trouble in dce previous year questions.. iit is easier (snds funny) yesterday i gave a test and was able to get 12 questions in 13 of mixed iit orgn. chem questions.. while merely 8 were correct in 13 for dce..so i need to cram some tricks and what reagents do(in iit there is more of concept i think)...

yeah iit is more about concept, u can nearly go for the exam without crammed up formulaes, even for maths there are very few questions in which u need to use well known formulaes, all comes when try to solve the problems.

Then best thing is to pick up appendices from the the 11th and 12th refreshers , u know they got all the named reactions, conversion, making and all

I think DCE is more like KCET. You have to cram up things fo these. :-/

btw you really hav DID (dissociative identitiy disorder) ???

[Ihatemyself]

no we dont have any problem i..are just fine

[Nav11aug]

lolz

[Ihatemyself]

what 'lol' dont laugh at us ill kill you ...i are not here to entertain..we is going to kill u .i are not schizophrenic .NO..got it?

[Nav11aug]

nope oh,yeah

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

what 'lol' dont laugh at us ill kill you ...i are not here to entertain..we is going to kill u .i are not schizophrenic .NO..got it?

you know schizophrenia is not DID exactly.

[Ihatemyself]

yeah i know that.DID is experiencing 2 or more personalities while schizophrenia is improper functioning of brain causing hallucinations.it is a misconception in many ppl that both of them r same!

[Nav11aug]

exactly, I somehow Stumbled on this wiki article on DID . Pretty cool med stuff

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

yeah i know that.DID is experiencing 2 or more personalities while schizophrenia is improper functioning of brain causing hallucinations.it is a misconception in many ppl that both of them r same!

so u r quite okay

one prototype to experiment with, has been lost..:/

[Ihatemyself]

Originally Posted by T159

so u r quite okay

one prototype to experiment with, has been lost..:/

Ahem dont be too sure..schizophrenics dont admit they r mentally sick

''I somehow Stumbled on this wiki article on DID . Pretty cool med stuff" yeah im a bio student so get regular doses of med knowledge..

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

Ahem dont be too sure..schizophrenics dont admit they r mentally sick

''I somehow Stumbled on this wiki article on DID . Pretty cool med stuff" yeah im a bio student so get regular doses of med knowledge..

so was I, somehow my love for Bio got crushed over by...

THough still I like to read some reference books at bio

a mild schizophrenia is nothing to worry about in todays city life

[Ihatemyself]

mild..u never know when it turns out ...lol ..So u also had PCMB...now what r u doing ..btech or something else?

[Faun]

Originally Posted by Ihatemyself

mild..u never know when it turns out ...lol ..So u also had PCMB...now what r u doing ..btech or something else?

yeah btech IT, last year

[Ihatemyself]

Btech last yr..hmmm ..nice so u must be thinking bout placement..well i wanna ask one thing ..since u r as good as placed..how much salary do u get if u do btech from a private college in CS and then Designing or networking from somewhere ,...U know kindo worried abt future if i dont make it to a good college

[Faun]

it depends upon the reputation of college too, so try to get in one where placement rates are high.
Yeah getting SCJP,CCNA,OCA certificates are a surety to get high paid jobs.But these exams are not easy, u hav to study to the core to get the mark of 90+.

Remember one thing if ur %ages are good u can always grab some good walkin opportunities.
Get ur concepts clear for these subjects: Database, Networking and Operating systems. Every now and then interviewers will ask questions abt these.

Salary varies from 2.7-4.2 lacs for a BE/BTECH.
Am placed in Wipro (we have placement in 3rdYear sec-sem).

And remember life is not about studying all the time. See what is your junoon and persuade it (mine is JAVA).

[Ihatemyself]

mine is designing and animation....so ill do that after btech may be..will this work out?