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27-10-2007, 09:28 PM
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Dravid is out of the team!
It looks like Vengsarkar has some ego clashes with Rahul.And howcome Sehwag is in the team again without performing.  Badrinath,Raina,Tewari they are performing well in the Challenger series but it looks like there is no use.
Here is an article
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Part of a method or plain madness?
Two years ago, on another October evening, a day after another Challenger Trophy, the national selectors decided to 'rest' another former Indian captain. Sourav Ganguly, then out with a mild injury, was left out of the Indian squad for the first two matches of the home series against Sri Lanka and needed to wait another year and a half before his next one-dayer.
Now it's Dravid who faces the brunt. 'Rest' is a commonly used euphemism in Indian selection circles and what it means is anyone's guess. Dilip Vengsarkar, the current chairman of selectors, has said "he will be back soon" but also added "fitness and fielding have become very important in the one-day game so he will have to show it playing for his state". Logic suggests that Dravid has been dropped for his fielding. If true, there will be a few in the squad dashing to the nearest gym. Incidentally Dravid's replacement, Virender Sehwag, is no Asafa Powell and has done little to deserve a recall.
'Rest' tells you nothing about the selectors' motives. Have they decided to give Dravid a break to regain his form? If so will his performance in a four-day Ranji Trophy match tell them anything? Do they have a plan to phase out the seniors? If so will Ganguly and Sachin Tendulkar be rested too? Have they even kept Dravid in the loop? Has there been a serious thought given to the balance of the side? If so why are there five openers in there?
Or have they simply realised that Dravid is the most expendable option? If that's the case it's a decision based on the present and not on the future - purely on one poor series against the best one-day side in the world (all talk of his lean phase in England can be squashed with his two good half-centuries, one of which was a match-winning unbeaten 92 in Bristol).
An average of 8.88 in ten games is a cause for concern but numbers can only tell you so much. India, it seems are too caught up in the Twenty20 dizziness, forgetting that a technically-sound middle-order batsman is an integral part of a one-day team. As Australia so conveniently exposed, flashy 30s can only take you so far. It's the beaver-like innings-building that wins games. It just needs a Mohammad Asif or Mitchell Johnson to rip through the top order for the fragile underbelly to be exposed.
More importantly who replaces him? Who can enter at 20 for 3 and see off the new ball? Who can walk in at 160 for 4 and launch a 300-plus total? Who, especially while playing in the large arenas in Australia, can find the gaps with such ease? Rohit Sharma may develop into such batsman in the next few years but the top-heavy nature of the side means he will struggle to even make it to the playing XI in the upcoming series.
India's selection history is littered with instances of great players being abandoned and Vengsarkar and his band might have just carried on the tradition. Players of such quality require a certain leeway and need to be judged on the body of their contribution rather than a series or two. Just a month-and-a-half back he was being urged to revoke his captaincy resignation. Now he's dispensable. Is there a method in place or are we to assume it is plain madness?
Whatever the reasons, one can't help thinking that the selectors have chosen an easy escape route. Leaving out Dravid isn't a decision you would associated with outrage (one doubts if there have ever been any effigies burnt in his support) and a victory or two would douse the flickering fires. Somewhere along the line, when his side are inserted on a juicy pitch, Mahendra Singh Dhoni will look around the dressing room for someone who can curb his flashy style and do the dirty job of scrapping hard. Finding no-one to fill the breach, he might look back on today's selection meeting and ponder about what might have been.
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27-10-2007, 09:32 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
wall is out huh ??/
i think he should have stuck with his captaincy .. atleast he would have been in the team....
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27-10-2007, 09:33 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
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wall is out huh ??/
i think he should have stuck with his captaincy .. atleast he would have been in the team.... 
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lol vengsarkar forced him to quit.
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27-10-2007, 09:34 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
toh Dravid se kuch hota vhi hai kya?
remember when he scored 12 runs of some 80 odd balls in a test match in the test series against England earlier this year.
pata hi nahi chalta ki captain hai ya slip fielder ka substitute.
he does not have the qualities of a captain.
Dhoni is a much better skipper than him.
why there is no use of the three guyz u mentioned?
badri is ok ,tewari has performed well and deserves to be in the team.
and raina is also a gud lower-middle order batsman.
bhai in teeno se koi dushmani hai kya?
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27-10-2007, 09:36 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
i just dont get it, why are they giving the out of form sehwag so many chances. gautam gambhir, uthhapa , ganguly , tendulkar ... how many openers do they need?
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27-10-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
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Originally Posted by abtom
Dhoni is a much better skipper than him.
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And how many matches, may I ask, has Dhoni capped?
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27-10-2007, 09:41 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
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Originally Posted by abtom
toh Dravid se kuch hota vhi hai kya?
remember when he scored 12 runs of some 80 odd balls in a test match in the test series against England earlier this year.
pata hi nahi chalta ki captain hai ya slip fielder ka substitute.
he does not have the qualities of a captain.
Dhoni is a much better skipper than him.
why there is no use of the three guyz u mentioned?
badri is ok ,tewari has performed well and deserves to be in the team.
and raina is also a gud lower-middle order batsman.
bhai in teeno se koi dushmani hai kya?
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tujhe samajh nahi aayegi baat.Jaake kanchey khel.Mere kehne ka matlab tha ke unke achey perform karna ka kya fyada hai select toh honge nahi woh.
Its a big mistake to drop Dravid.I want to kick vengsarkar.He can gth with his ego.  Dravid has given so much to indian cricket.How can they left him just becoz he had 2-3 bad series.They will never do this to sachin becoz he is mumbaikar oh infact whole of the BCCI setup is in mumbai so its expected.
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27-10-2007, 09:47 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
kanche nahi goti goti goti goti.
wall me toh crack aa gaya ab toh ambuja cement hi kaam kar sakta hai.
acc to me sachin,dravid and sourav should not be there in the shorter version of the game.
test matches are perfect for them.
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27-10-2007, 09:51 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
we have a fireWALL leak here
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27-10-2007, 09:54 PM
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27-10-2007, 10:12 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
Sehwag -- Very Worong Decision
Dravid -- Should Have Got A Chance
There Is Again A Politics In It . You Remember When Sehwag Was Not Performing, Then Too He Got Lott Of Chance And He Was Kicked Only When Selectors Had Pressure From Media Showing All That How Others Were Thrown As Soon As They Were Not Performing But Why Not Sehwag ? And Now Again Bcoz Of Sehwag Dravid Is Kicked On The Name Of Rest .
Damn Politics
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27-10-2007, 10:21 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
Guys switch over to soccer.hehe.EPL is so much more fun.
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27-10-2007, 10:25 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
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Originally Posted by gaurav
Dravid has given so much to indian cricket.How can they left him just becoz he had 2-3 bad series.They will never do this to sachin becoz he is mumbaikar oh infact whole of the BCCI setup is in mumbai so its expected.
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if they can kick ganguly why not dravid? bcci sux anyway...
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27-10-2007, 10:58 PM
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Re: Dravid is out of the team!
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Originally Posted by clmlbx
Sehwag -- Very Worong Decision
Dravid -- Should Have Got A Chance
There Is Again A Politics In It . You Remember When Sehwag Was Not Performing, Then Too He Got Lott Of Chance And He Was Kicked Only When Selectors Had Pressure From Media Showing All That How Others Were Thrown As Soon As They Were Not Performing But Why Not Sehwag ? And Now Again Bcoz Of Sehwag Dravid Is Kicked On The Name Of Rest .
Damn Politics
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Yeah and if you remember correctly it was dravid who was supporting sehwag's inclusion in the team.And he is now out of the team becoz of sehwag.  Arun jaitely teri ....
Article on this conspiracy against Dravid added.
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