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Old 04-09-2007, 03:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking 7 Reasons Why Microsoft is Doomed!

Not this year, not next year… but soon - almost certainly by the next decade.


#1. Their business model is a dead-end. - Back when Microsoft first started business in 1980, software as a commodity was still a fuzzy concept. Computers, themselves, were flying off the shelves, and of course you bought game cartridges for game consoles, but what little computer software was being sold in the early 1980’s was worth a few dollars at the most. And then came “Micro-soft” - a BASIC interpreter on a floppy disk in a zip-lock plastic baggy! But somehow, it caught on.

Now, in 2007, the concept of software as a commodity is rapidly wearing off again. Today, it’s all about the service and maintenance - something that Microsoft isn’t prepared to deal with.


#2. They flunk at Web 2.0. - Another shift in the technology market is the much-hyped web app. When you can get more and more of your programs to download from a server and run in a web browser, your whole operating system - as far as what needs to be installed on your computer goes - can be a life-support system for a web browser. You can even get a full operating system to run in your browser! Meanwhile, the biggest stake they have ever had in the Internet user-space is Internet Explorer.


#3. They’re running out of friends. - First off, they’ve been brought up on multiple anti-trust charges in both the United States and Europe, plus been the subject of 130 lawsuits besides. Now consider that IBM, their former friend, now values Linux above Microsoft. And then there’s Sun, Apple, Google, and Oracle, who are flat-out competitors to Microsoft while favoring at least open source, if not Linux proper. Even Adobe is starting to look like a competitor with Microsoft, with nearly a one-to-one mapping of what Adobe and Microsoft each offer.


#4. They only have a couple of cash cows to work with. - Yes, it’s easy to look good when you consider their dominance on the desktop and office programs - but that’s their two products that they stay afloat on is Windows and Office. What about the other ventures of Microsoft? Is MSN taking over share from Google and Yahoo? Did the Zune beat the iPod? How many of you bought Microsoft Surface? Web servers? Nope, Apache rules that roost. OK, so what about the XBox? Yes! The XBox is selling well… at a loss.

At this point, it is becoming apparent that Microsoft had better cling to that operating system and office suite, because every time they step into another market, they get their head handed to them.


#5. People are hating on Vista. - We didn’t even see this many people mad about Windows ME.


#6. Their stock isn’t rising any more. - This is not to say “this week”, but rather over the last seven years. This chart shows a clear picture. You see the stock value climbing steadily until right at the year 2000 - then it fell gradually and has puttered along at a level rate ever since. Microsoft was once the most profitable stock you could trade, but with a seven year slump, that magic spell seems to be irrevocably broken.


#7. PC makers are starting to turn their backs on Microsoft. - Sure, small-time markets have offered alternatives to Microsoft, but when a giant PC seller like Dell starts selling Ubuntu machines, that’s another big sign. HP has followed suit.


Five months ago, noted tech industry guru Paul Graham declared Microsoft dead. People laughed and even I was skeptical, but now that we see the further developments that have happened since that time, it may turn out that Paul Graham has the last laugh, yet.

Source: CNET

PS: Such news rips apart the hearts of ProMS fans. I'm quite sure 'gx' and 'imav' will have lot of comments on this one!

Also Good for Read is Enterprises saving millions of dollars with open source
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Old 04-09-2007, 06:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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ya also explains why bill gates isnt the richest anymore
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Hope Linux gains the market.even mac too i dont mind-but not to be another monopoly OS maker.
M$ is very well known for their bad(anti-competitive) business practices.just read in desktoplinux.com that M$ closed their "get the facts" campaign and a new one coming(FUD).
the bigger blow M$ got was that SCO lost UNIX licenses to Novell.and M$ was the puller behing SCO unix co for the FUD -linux got codes from unix etc.
that's why their new bullet Linux infringes 235 patents FUD coming.
M$ is bullsh!t.I am loving the pic where some one through a cake on Bill Gates face.he deserved it.
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nice thread
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but dude windows xp still rocks even if vista sucks
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I am eagerly waiting for it. I want to be one of the reason for it
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I just read a Digg article rubbishing this claim.

I was really very sleepy then and paid attention to just on line then.

A business model, giving a $ 14 billion turnover at year end, will certainly not meet a dead end!!

About the article on why IE6 must die, common, they have released IE7 now, why still take IE6's case every time.
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wow. some1 will never leave microsoft from puch things. if microsoft is dead then it can only be a DOOMSDAY
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business model is rock solid on the contrary acc to bill gates (to pranoy roy ndtv if u remmber while with murthi) in an interview he said that its google's no add model tht will give them problems in the long run ... may be may be not

and as far as web 2.0 is concerned ... look at the entire live package ... its all web 2.0 ... no 1 in their minds can say MS flunked web 2.0 or watever

vista and the link of urs well we all know the kind of stupid blogs ppl have against vista ... there are some genuine claims but most of it pure bull sh!t

xbox ... is killer the only thing better selling than it is the wii as compared to the over-hyped peice of sh!t called the ps3 even sony has gone back to re-launching the ps2

zune and ipod well the same was said abt the xbox ... ms is blah blah gaming console and ms blah blah ... we all know the current situation ... as far as pmp is concerned may be it wont beat the ipod but will certainly eat a lot of its share

the business model and web 2.0 points were something that help~is~here u urself cud hav made sense and not put here ...
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we benefit a lot from windows as most of the softwares and hardware made r capable to run with windows.we get a variety of choice for evry type of software and hardware but imagine if all types of oses put windows behind then we users will hav a limited choice in evry pc product.
For this a joint agreement should be made that all the hardware and software should be platform independent
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Well MS-Windows certainly rulez the Gaming department. Until then I doubt the occurence of the doomsday. Its about time that gaming recieves a major boost on GNU/Linux and other OSs.
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Must be written by a Lingeek or MS hater....., I don't wanna write an explanation kicking the auther's point of view cos this will change in flame war
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well said gx but i feel that there articles nothin but a PIECE OF CRAPY BULLSHIT
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Sure enough guys M$ is heading for a painful ending and vista is the beginning of their collapse.Their non-cooperative and monopolist behavior will screw them within 5 years or so.Just wait and watch.

Google and yahoo on internet and Linux on OS front will give it a painful death.
Future is open source and sharing not exorbent prices for some sh!t OS.Look at linux just install it and it is ready to use with almost all the necessary softwares.

In windows you need an antivirus(fully updated i.e. 100's of viruses everyday should be added to it's database),a spyware,a firewall,an adware.In linux you need none of them(you can install antivirus if you are paranoid about security).

Ever wondered why windows keep on slowing down with passage of time cos it packs in itself sh!tloads of junk.You have to defragment your HD often why can't windows do it first timer itself.

And now windows VISTA supports DRM.WTF?
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5 years ..... this has been said for like the pasr 15 years ... MS wil die ms will die .. they are making game console they know nothing they will die they will die o! xp xp is hit ms shud shut shop xp sux xp sux 5 yrs down the line we all know the story ... and for ur info ms is not only a software company anymore they have got a wide variety and which reminds i forgot to mention ... where did this fool see the surface on sale ...
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Bill Gates not the richest man : yeah its true.. but do anyone knows whats the difference.. this is calculated at te business year ending.. the year has not ended yet, the calculations are premilinary.. that means when the year ends , the official calculations will take place and then it will be decided who is the richest, Mr. Helu or sir gates...

and yes for now Mr. Helu is, but thats a matter of time.. which will change soon enough...

For Microsoft : is there any IT company of the same level ?

There is no competition to Microsoft right now and till now !
so M$ isnt going anywhere, whatever the calculations say.
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5 years shantanu ... the devil_himself will crush MS ... MS painful ending in 5 years .... 50 i wud hav accepted ... 5
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i think for atleast 50 years , M$ isnt going anywhere.. look at the position they are in... and i dont think they have any wrong deeds , for which the devil will curse them to an end.. !

on what basis did this thread was posted in am amazed !

what guys think is that M$ is only based on the range of its OS.. its not true...
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Sure enough guys M$ is heading for a painful ending and vista is the beginning of their collapse.Their non-cooperative and monopolist behavior will screw them within 5 years or so.Just wait and watch.
We heard this in 1998, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2007 & ...........come back here when Linux is even remotely a threat for Windows on Desktop front. U say Linux is free, well...it is unless your time has no value which u spend on actually getting Linux to work.

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Web Apps have always been there, but u forgot...Google cannot give a whole Internet based word processor better then MS word Or OpenOffice.org Writer. An offline standalone application is always faster. Google is giving competition in Web 2.0 services such as what..

Orkut? We have Windows Live spaces too
Google Docs is a joke compared to even Abiword or OpenOffice.
Google Talk, ever heard about Windows Live Messenger or MSN messenger.
Picasa, ever tried Windows Photo gallery?

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Future is open source and sharing not exorbent prices for some sh!t OS.Look at linux just install it and it is ready to use with almost all the necessary softwares.
Lolz....didn't u just saw the stats of Linux in the technology news section.

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Nope, u just need common sense. Do U let any one unknown enter your house, just cos he is saying he is from Star news & wearing white cloths? Do U blame the almari lock company if the guy u allow to enter your home breaks it?

Same way, how do u think a virus will enter? Well....it can if U browse sites from an unknown source or unknown sender's mail. Its your fault so why r u blaming MS for this when they clearly say to follow the phishing filter.

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Already there in Windows Vista by default.

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In linux you need none of them
But time is not imporant in Linux & it is ok to hunt for drivers, & files & then blame MS if your graphics card from ATI doesn't work.
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Ever wondered why windows keep on slowing down with passage of time cos it packs in itself sh!tloads of junk.You have to defragment your HD often why can't windows do it first timer itself.
Ever tried removing Windows Component? The Disk Defragmentar in Vista automatically defragment.

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And now windows VISTA supports DRM.WTF?
You hate DRM, don't buy DRM content. Vista won't affect anything else u use.
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I am loving the pic where some one through a cake on Bill Gates face.he deserved it.
No, he didn't.
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everyone forgot the real money generator for ms: MS office!! its not windows which has the greatest share of revenue but its due MS OFFICE!!! and this has been admitted by a senior MS employee who gave a guest lecture few months ago in my college.

and unless gaming in GNU/unix based OS takes off MS is sure to stay!
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MS office, XBOX Live, Exchange Server, Windows, XBOX (Machine), WSUS, just a few of many MS cash cows.

Thread should be locked, it will only attract unnecessary flame war.
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...it is unless your time has no value which u spend on actually getting Linux to work.
bullsh!t. plz stop posting this crap again and again. keep ur eyes wide open and try to see around you. its not the 90s anymore, we are in 2007!


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Web Apps have always been there, but u forgot...Google cannot give a whole Internet based word processor better then MS word Or OpenOffice.org Writer.
MS Office is the best app out there and there is absolutely no comptt.!! and imho there can be none in the coming few years. this is a highly matured product, hard to survive widout!

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Orkut? We have Windows Live spaces too
Google Docs is a joke compared to even Abiword or OpenOffice.
Google Talk, ever heard about Windows Live Messenger or MSN messenger.
Picasa, ever tried Windows Photo gallery?
all the MS alternatives you gave are not even worthy of throwing into the trash! u are comparing orkut and windows live spaces? picasa and windows photo gallery.... man.. this should be the joke of the thread!!!


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Nope, u just need common sence.
and this is what most of the ppl lack. not everyone is like you and me to survive widout an AV!

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Already there in Windows Vista by default.
what... defender? you say it works?? omfg... someone plz take the laughing gas outta the room!!!!

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But time is not imporant in Linux & it is ok to hunt for drivers, & files & then blame MS if your graphics card from ATI doesn't work.
this is what i've been telling ppl too, time and again. if ur hardware doesn't work in an OS its not the fault of the OS.

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Ever tried removing Windows Component? The defragmenter in Vista automatically defragment.
you speak crap man!!! if you keep instlling and removing loads of software then jus go thru the system32 folder..... i won't say anything else here!


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You hate DRM, don't buy DRM content. Vista won't affect anything else u use.
fully agree. i think DRM is overhyped here in india!! don't buy DRM if you don't support it. its as simple as that. nobody if forcing you to buy it.
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bullsh!t. plz stop posting this crap again and again. keep ur eyes wide open and try to see around you. its not the 90s anymore, we are in 2007!
U cannot deny the fact that Windows is easier then Linux, most compatible with hardware out there, has lods of many usefull softwares.

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Sorry, Orkut is a better timepass . I should have said Blogger & WLS

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Aren't both Photo Management applications?

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what... defender? you say it works??
No comments, plz read the reports about Defender.

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you speak crap man!!! if you keep instlling and removing loads of software then jus go thru the system32 folder..... i won't say anything else here!
Donno how my System32 folder is only 200 MB more then initial state 10 months ago here in Vista

The thread itself is baseless & flaming, it should be locked.
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infra its not only abt the driver availability also the ease of installation ...

and also if u say ppl dont have the common sense to run windows w/o an av then we can well imagine the excitement they shall be faced with trying to mount an ntfs partition
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U cannot deny the fact that Windows is easier then Linux, most compatible with hardware out there, has lods of many usefull softwares.
i don't say windows is easier than linux. its just tht ppl haf been exposed to windows from a long time. the bullet of yester years had the gear lever on the right side and many ppl said its tuff to drive but ask those who'd owned and drove it since ages. i agree wid the second and third about the hardware compat. and no. of software. but then its coz of the the popularity of windows which none denies


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Aren't both Photo Management applications?
picasa is much more than that and a million times better than windows photo gallery.

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No comments, plz read the reports about Defender.
yeah, no comments here either. plz use defender first and then say it again!!!


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Donno how my System32 folder is only 200 MB more then initial state 10 months ago here in Vista
you haf 200 mb of redundant crap in there then! of corz all mite not be crap. but nobody can deny that total uninstallation is not possible everytime and it does slow down windows over the time. now the time may vary in everycase. it mebbe months or years....

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infra its not only abt the driver availability also the ease of installation ...
you say that coz you want a dual boot system. ever tried giving linux the whole harddisk and seen how easy it is to install? do try it.

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and also if u say ppl dont have the common sense to run windows w/o an av then we can well imagine the excitement they shall be faced with trying to mount an ntfs partition
plz try a newer distro and then speak. why wud u want an ntfs partition anyways on a linux system? then i can say that windows doesn't even read ext2,3 FS!!! let alone mounting...

i'm not a linux guy.. as i've said time and again i use both extensively and some of the points here are totally absurd.

i know i'm going off topic.. so guys can be either get on topic or haf the thread closed?
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... i'm not a linux guy.. as i've said time and again i use both extensively and some of the points......
that applies to me also
i use both to extremes,
yet to try a hand on Mac.
when will i get my Mac OS.
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Old 04-09-2007, 03:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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defender : i use it from a long time.. i have only Vista now, had Xp about 2 months back with only defender and not a AV. in vista too only defender.. its a good software.. i dont find a point where it lacks.. i dont know how some of you guys use your systems.. ?


i guess everyone is proving their points, whether it is baseless also.... thread getting deviated..

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when will i get my Mac OS.
Pay a visit to nearest Apple store
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