Vista and Its "DRM"

[Tech_Wiz]

Anyone read this ****? I read in detail and next thing I did was threw that M$ Win in Trash can and a gogo for Debian 4.0

Just google "Vista DRM" if you guys want details


ps: Debian 4.0 is really cool. Not missing windows except for games :$ but I will sort that out soon anyways

[iMav]

prakash u have a follower ...

[praka123]

Originally Posted by Tech_Wiz

Anyone read this ****? I read in detail and next thing I did was threw that M$ Win in Trash can and a gogo for Debian 4.0

Just google "Vista DRM" if you guys want details


ps: Debian 4.0 is really cool. Not missing windows except for games :$ but I will sort that out soon anyways

we had already discussed.but Microsoft is paying its fanatics here in this forum it seems.there are three ppl who are adament on Vista borks!
one of them already posted in the thread.another one is our vista club maamu-woh yahann aayega koi trash leke ki vista is glorified!
your correct.the reality is hidden by the monopoly and its followers.
Not only DRM-go to tech section and read the link which says Vista collects ur personal data too more than what they specified in EULA.
dude,ur new-but let me tell you there is three users here in this forum who are funded by Microsoft.they will try their best to hide realities.they are the "bots".
DRM is the biggest sin these proprietory monopolies does to users.even u must be knowing the M$ patent warfare.software patents hinders innovation.
http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/intro/index.html
and the real Vista details:
http://defectivebydesign.org
http://badvista.fsf.org
http://badwindowsvista.com
History of M$ FUD
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57261/index.html
btwn me too uses Debian Sid(latest).
For a Novice Linux user- Ubuntu Feisty too is fine.if u like windowish gui go for Kde as in PClinux os.
but dear friend,ur one of the few who understood the realities!three cheers to you

[iMav]

buss thats it only 5 links ... man im dis-appointed some more please

[gxsaurav]

Vista has no inbuilt DRM from Microsoft in it. It has support for DRM technologies used by Blu-rAY & HD DVD without which U cannot watch these on Windows Vista.

If you don't use DRM based content, DRM doesn't affect you.

You can use Vista the way u want.

Hey prakash uncle.,...I don't understand Linux & can't work on it. Now what should I do to work on computer? Should I stop working on computers just cos I don't understand Linux? Or should I use an OS which works for me, the way I way I want,...a.k.a Windows Vista

[praka123]

^^ofcorz i post with legit sources unlike you-a blind Microsof(windows) zealot
read the reality of what Vista is @:

The serious problems of the new
Microsoft OS Windows Vista.
Windows Vista - Broken by
Design
Vista isn't yet available to
consumers but already both hackers and security firms are reporting
vulnerabilities in this "Most Secure Ever" version of Windows (E4, E5). Unfortunately
these vulnerabilities are nowhere near as serious as features that have been
deliberately designed in.
Most of the much-trumpeted new features
Vista was supposed to have were dropped so Microsoft could ship it during the
current decade, but three new things have remained:
*
A security system that prevents
most current software from running on Vista. New versions will be needed for
just about everything you run. Even much of Microsoft's own software won't
run. For instance, the free workstation database engine much small business
software depends on (MSDE) will never work on Vista (E3). Of course this
security system has already been penetrated and even some old attacks still
worked in tests by security firm Sophos.

*A confusing new graphic interface,
necessary to make Vista look sufficiently different from previous versions of
Windows.

*A draconian DRM (Digital Rights
Management) system designed to protect "premium content" published by major
studios and music distributors. This is apparently where most of their
development effort went to the detriment of other features.

This DRM system will severely increase
the cost of computer hardware to the consumer, limit hardware choices, force
purchase of much more powerful computers just to achieve the same performance
you are accustomed to with Windows XP, and make the system fragile and
unreliable. A Windows Vista computer is
completely unsuitable for any critical application because it can be degraded
and/or disabled by any number of events, deliberately by Microsoft, by malicious
software, or even by power fluctuations and similar events.
If a user is doing some image work,
say, and sticks in a "premium content" disk to play some music while s/he works,
the image work is immediately degraded in unpredictable ways to protect the
"premium content" - but that's the least of it. Say Microsoft finds a flaw in a popular video card which might allow
breaking DRM protections. Their DRM documentation promises content providers
they will immediately send out an "update" that causes all Vista computers with
that video card to drop to a "less functional" level until that problem is
fixed. Generally it will require every impacted user to immediately buy a new
video card to restore their computer to a fully functional state - an expensive
video card because that's the only kind that supports Vista.
But what if your computer has on-board
video as so many now do, or it's a motherboard problem? What if every low cost
Dell Dimension made between November 2007 and January 2009 is suddenly crippled?
And replacing the whole motherboard / video / memory system will trigger Vista
licensing issues to help complicate the situation. But it gets worse: a Vista computer polls various hardware and drivers 30
times a second to make sure nothing has changed that might indicate an attempt
to break DRM protection. Not only does this create great overhead within the
computer, but a blip at your local power provider can easily change something
Vista is watching - Bingo! your computer is degraded.
Perhaps the greatest risk is from
malicious software. Vista has already been shown vulnerable to a variety of
attacks. If a malicious program invades your machine (over 80% of small business
computers are currently infected), it can make your computer useless either
deliberately or more probably accidentally. Recovery will be next to impossible
without simply wiping the hard disk (total data loss) and reinstalling Vista,
and even then maybe not. You could say this is
all just the ranting of an unbalanced anti-Microsoft zealot, but unfortunately
it is not. Those with patience can read all the details and much more from the
recently published paper by Peter Gutmann, Department of Computer Science,
University of Auckland, A Cost
Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection.

Read Full report

[gxsaurav]

Vista isn't yet available to
consumers but already both hackers and security firms are reporting
vulnerabilities in this "Most Secure Ever" version of Windows

This means the article was written using Vista beta, which means yup...Vista had bugs in beta stage, thats why they call it BETA

A security system that preventsmost current software from running on Vista.

90% of softwares work out there without any issue in Vista.

New versions will be needed for just about everything you run.

I am running Quake 3 arena fine....no problem

Even much of Microsoft's own software won't run. For instance, the free workstation database engine much small business
software depends on (MSDE) will never work on Vista

What timeframe r u talking about? This has been fixed in Vista RTM 7 months ago.

A confusing new graphic interface,
necessary to make Vista look sufficiently different from previous versions of
Windows.

Its 85% the same as XP in looks. Whats confusing? No seriously I m asking from a UI designer point of view....whats complicated here?

cost of computer hardware to the consumer

Vista runs fine on even 2002 hardware

limit hardware choices,

You can use whatever hardware u want.

force
purchase of much more powerful computers just to achieve the same performance
you are accustomed to with Windows XP,

Nope....

and make the system fragile and unreliable.

What? How?

A Windows Vista computer is
completely unsuitable for any critical application because it can be degraded
and/or disabled by any number of events, deliberately by Microsoft, by malicious
software, or even by power fluctuations and similar events.

How is that Microsoft's fault? Wait...when Linux is running there is no power cut in india