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Old 20-02-2005, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well ...Come on guys ,no need to discuss cracks but at least confess how many of us actually use pirated softwares?
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Old 20-02-2005, 10:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Will a theif accept his crime?
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Old 21-02-2005, 12:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i have never used a pirated software in my life

all the softwares i need are original and i work on a genuine copy of Windows XP
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Old 21-02-2005, 12:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I do use it.
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Old 21-02-2005, 12:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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whats with the "we indians are like this only" . i thought people confess only if they have performed a crime . atleast our corporates (well most) run genuine software , as opposed to other countries who use it even in govt offices . first off people use it , its an issue , thats why all the advts and cry by big corps . not like anyone is hiding behind their pc . i dont see MS and other people too complaining abt home users , who dont profit from the "pirated" /"copied" , using their tools . if u take MS for instance , u have people use their search engine , IM , Browser and other online stuff from their "copied" os . so they dont tend to lose much . photoshop users , eventually join big corps , which have original s/w . even companies provide demos to all to check out their software . Plus people are switching over to free s/w , both windows based and linux and others . so no point in asking if people use "copied" software . similar to asking if people have ever told a lie in their life

Plus who is a pirate ??? like an oss / freedom software advocate said , some time back , pirates generally loot other ships and strike terror in the high seas . i dont think a 15 yr old kid , somewhere in india , using some software on his pc , is a pirate anyway .

Plus , if u feel guilty in anyway abt using copied s/w , go ahead and confess to the companies , bow down and apologise in japanese style , or get a few slaps like the koreans even . was a story abt how a jar containing two scorpians ,didnt need a lid , while all others needed it . when asked y , reply was if one scorpian tried to escape , the other will not allow it and try to pull it down lol . If u feel guilty , i suggest , u can just switch over to linux and help promote other free software too .
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Old 21-02-2005, 10:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If its only for Educational Purpose theres no wrong in using Pirted softwares.

I hate Buying softwares and I Love buying Hardwares.

I will never buy a software in my life, unless and until I use it for a commercial purpose or I make money out of a particular software.

There are lots of commercial companies who buy the licensed softwares and thats more than enough to support the software producing companies.

And it will never affect the software company because the % share of any particular software used in India is less compared to Developed countries and companies don't think India as a potential market for their softwares.

They concentrate on Big Companies and Developed and Powerful Countries.

Can anyone say how many BRANDED softwares are created in INDIA.
Very Very less. All are created Outside India. So companies don't mind or don't care even if their software is pirated in India or in south asia.

Simply saying I just LOVE using Pirated Softwares as it comes for free.

And also Freewares are not up to standards and they don't have many features as in sharewares or softwares that comes with a cost.
Freewares are sometimes even useless or comes with lots of bugs and can never compete with costly softwares.

Thats one reason who people prefer pirated softwares that really do the job for them.
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Old 21-02-2005, 01:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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OMG.. all u guyz unethical.. I use only Licensed sw..
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Old 21-02-2005, 02:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I use very few commercial software, and prefer freeware or open source/GPL sw.

But I use one commercial software -

Windows 98 SE (with few system files from win me)

Its upto you to guess whether it is pirated or not
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Old 21-02-2005, 03:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think no one here can say that they are using npn-pirated software.

If they are saing so, they are lying, or they have purchased their original softwaes from local cd market and in just that 50-100 Rs. CD.
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Old 21-02-2005, 03:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Unless you're totally an Open Source guy, I don't think anyone can claim not to have committed piracy. Heck, ripping songs and keeping them around in MP3 is also piracy. So is continuing to use Winzip/WinRAR by clicking the Close button everytime it tells you that your registration period is up. I guess the real question should be how many of us use pirated OSes, because as far as I can see, that's the only question that matters. We're willing to spend tens of thousands on hardware and not 5k on the software that we use day in and day out and makes everything possible on our computers.
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Old 21-02-2005, 04:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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While the OS('s) are the most important part of the computer software, there will be many people who own original copies of Windows (thanks to a branded pc) but use other pirated software.

I found that there was a freeware substitute to most software available (on both windows & linux platforms) so I dumped MS Office, Norton [and other bloatware] and stuck with the free [better] alternatives. However, though linux is a powerful operating system, some times windows is a little invaluable (for games particularly ) so I had to stick with it.
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LOL.....when it comes to pirated stuff am all game......but i do give a big hands up to original stuff too cause quite frankly everthing has its own advantages and disadvantages

now why ya ask me????? cause very simple patting reply......its damm cheap....Bad.....but Cheap Sh!t.....plus if i go ahead and buy original stuff.....say a winXp.....4-8 original games.....may be some original softwares if i get some i.e.....and ahh yes orginal Video Cd's and DVD's then let me guess i would end up spendin enough money buying a Decent Gaming Pc rig with that amt.....

so its straight deal out here....unless and until the cost aint affordable....it would prove futile to go behind original sutff....btw not sayin that original stuff is bad (It never can be) but the point is spendin so much cash will just leave me bankrupt
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Old 21-02-2005, 04:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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One more factor to consider, in most cases, the price of software is according to the spending power of people in the west. What is cheap for some fellow living in the US, would be quite expensive here. If the price of some essential products (like windows) were brought down, then maybe less people would use pirated software.

Unfortunately, the mentality of people is such, that even if a legal version of windows sold for Rs 100, 90% of the people would prefer a pirated copy for Rs 30.
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Just look atthe votes
Do u use pirated software?
Yes

85% [ 6 ]
No

14% [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 7
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Old 21-02-2005, 04:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, the mentality of people is such, that even if a legal version of windows sold for Rs 100, 90% of the people would prefer a pirated copy for Rs 30.
Actually Ujjwal. Just think Windows XP licenced version in Just Rs. 500. When i or anyone else go to buy a software. Buying Pirated CD is more easy then buying a Original One. I found more outlet for pirated instead of original one.
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Old 21-02-2005, 04:35 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Exactly! All a person has to do is get a legal OS and then look at freeware alternatives for the rest. Compression utilities like ZipGenius, photo editing with GIMP, productivity tools with OpenOffice (sure its not Office 2003, but how many of us use the billion and one functions that it has?) Quintessential media player, QuickTime and iTunes, DeepBurner/CDBurnerXP, Firefox, FreshDownload, they're all free. What more does one want?
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ofcourse most of us use.. and its mainly cos of COST!!! an original MAYA 3D full set or a 3D Studio Max could cost bout 20K min.. but pirated is jus 100 bucks n works as the same.. who wouldn want it then!!
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Exactly! All a person has to do is get a legal OS and then look at freeware alternatives for the rest. Compression utilities like ZipGenius, photo editing with GIMP, productivity tools with OpenOffice (sure its not Office 2003, but how many of us use the billion and one functions that it has?) Quintessential media player, QuickTime and iTunes, DeepBurner/CDBurnerXP, Firefox, FreshDownload, they're all free. What more does one want?
Nothing more. But what abt gamers? Life is tough for them. Any new game costs in excess of 1.5K, and even after four years, the lowest it drops to is 500 bucks (for the blockbusters like HL), 400 for the sports sims, and around 200 for games that wld either run on a PII, or never sold volumes, inspite of being good games (like Deus Ex ) And unfortunately, there aren't any free alternatives in games, that are engaging enuf! (OK u've got FLASH games...but....hell )

Luckily (?) for me, all I can play on my 810E, are games that are 3-4 years old atleast. So I can afford (to a certain extent) to get original games..but I still use Win 98 SE - unofficial version for the simple reason that I can't afford it (i.e, I cld get 8-10 games instead of that, or better still, a minor upgrade!) If it cost around 2K instead of the mammoth 4K that it does now, I wld surely have taken enuf pains to save up for it! So in my case, it's a question of price.

But there are quite a few people for whom it's a question of their..er..values. They wld rather have a Rs.300 pizza everyday than buy original s/w! Nothing can be done abt them..
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Old 21-02-2005, 09:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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regarding games , arent there any games rental stores in any of the major cities here in india . i know its a huge hit abroad with people just renting it out ( wonder how pirated cd's arent made from that ) .
If MS were to really put pressure on people in india to get original version , i think some people would go in for it , But a majority might stick to linux , as the newer versions are getting a lot friendlier to use .

On a lighter side : Regarding Pizza , most of the over rated brands dont give the actual taste as their chain stores abroad , same for chocolate . So stick to linux of pizza's , pizza deli in chennai , they customise ur pizza from the base and only give u what u want and are almost half the price , but add more cheese . Second option would be to make ur own pizza . Base is available at all supermarkets , Cheese , pizza sauce ( or ketchup ) and other ingrediants like mushroom , tuna , even frozen sausages are readily available . for those even without a microwave , a normal frying pan is enuf to melt the cheese . Tech Cooking anyone
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the problem is really with what people buy in this country and in neighbourhood countries like China and Japan, most people in this countries operate the PC's on pirated versions of softwares... WHY ????
They get the MADE IN INDIA STICKER or MADE IN CHINA STICKER
or MADE IN JAPAN STICKER ???? look funny na !!!! But that's the reality of this Software world in this silly countries. People likes to spend a 1000 buks on his/her girl-friend or better still on smoking and such stuff but they never look back and decide to buy an ORIGINAL software for themselves, even if that is affordable to them. Why is this SO ????

B'cozz they don't care about the Company which suffers b'cozz of their irratic behaviour and sense of buying pirated software. And above all after using Windows XP (pirated version) they proudly announce that Microsoft is great and have come out with great software with great enhancements ????? Did they paid anything to Microsoft before commenting on the works of Microsoft ????

I use all Original Softwares, and freewares.
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q : not sure abt the pricing of XP and others , but is it really worth pay the , sometimes hefty amounts ? some people who had a previous version of an OS , say 98 , would certainly expect to be still supported to this day right ? and get possible upgrades to their os and s/w bundled with it . but MS makes it impossible to keep old version of OS updated . sure they might have extended 98 support which was to end last year itself , but regarding a couple of patches in 98 , u got to pay them more to get it .

Someone said , u can use ur old opera registration key on even newer versions of the browser . if an os worked that way it would be gr8 . Plus MS themselves have cut prices like anything , just to keep linux from coming into offices /homes , so isnt it a case of actually them asking more than their s/w is really worth .

kurious : do u guys who have original MS os , get adequate tech support of patches in form of cd's or anything like that ? whats the price of the OS and office suites now anyways

another scenario : people who by indian branded pc's and a couple of mnc brands too , demand that they get office suite and other s/w like visual studio , adobe photoshop , norton and many other s/w "FREE" koz they paid so much for their pc . most technicians actually carry a pouch , with maybe one original OS cd , but the remaining is pirated . if these companies refuse to give custs these s/w , people will surely go into fully assembled and 100% pirated systems .
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Hey how about writing a tut & making it a sticky

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whats the price of the OS and office suites now anyways
Arnd 3.7K for Win98 SE, 4.1K for XP Home, and 6.9K for XP Pro and 2K Pro. Strange, but true.

And BTW, Office XP/2k3 (don't know which 1) costs arnd 7-9K or more. I'm not sure.

P.S: I heard a rumor that XP Pro prices have plummeted thanks to Win Server 2K3's intro....to around 4K. But I don't know for sure.
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Unfortunately, the mentality of people is such, that even if a legal version of windows sold for Rs 100, 90% of the people would prefer a pirated copy for Rs 30.
Actually Ujjwal. Just think Windows XP licenced version in Just Rs. 500. When i or anyone else go to buy a software. Buying Pirated CD is more easy then buying a Original One. I found more outlet for pirated instead of original one.
to be honest, i would seriously buy the original copy of windows if it was priced somewhere between 500-1000 bucks. nothing more. seriously. Also, if priced almost the same, I would buy photoshop, dreamweaver, and all those softwares that I really need, because when you pay for them, you really use them..


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I'm trying to be a reformed pirate. Securing an original XP copy is the first step. Offcourse, the recent Microsoft's aniti-piracy measures did prod me in the right direction, but thats another issue!

As for original games, no matter how hard I try to get the original ones, some games are plain out of my reach, atleast till the day I have to depend upon my parents for my pocket money.
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