Moser Baer is a damn Cheater.

[sharptooth]

Moser-Baer India, is cheating the mass , it is currently manufacturing 2nd Class and 3rd Class media. Find it out here on the class tables-
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
I just bought a HP-Blank DVD+RW, the M.I.D is MBIPG101W04 showed in Nero, the HP DVD is a Moser Baer India make, and falls under the 3rd Class media category. SHAME.

Now think of all the Ad's that come on tv showing Moser as an archival quality product, and that will last more than 100yrs, and archive all precious moments of your life into a moser baer DVD/CD. They r simply cheating our A$$.
Until yesterday i was an A$$ to moser baer. Not now Hee Hee . R U.

[NucleusKore]

Thanks for the link. I never knew this about any cds for that matter.

[Pathik]

does it mean that all SONY discs r 1st class???
damn moser baer !!!
but still most of my moser baer discs work pretty good....

[aditya.shevade]

I am beggining to think all HP products avalable in India are like that only. I have had the HDD of my HP laptop replced twice and DVD writer replaced once for manufacturing defects. That too within 4 months of buying.

Aditya

[drvarunmehta]

Don't get carried away by what one site says.
Why not test MoserBaer yourself? Burn more than 4 GB data on a disc and run an error scan if your drive supports it. My drive doesn't otherwise I would have tried it, but people with Liteon/BenQ drives can post their results.

[24online]

i show moser factory near noida on gadget guru on ndtv... it has totally automatically plant for cd manufacturing... but cant compete china...and MNC...

I never bought a Moser Baer. I only buy Sony discs. They're a bit expensive. But offer excellent quality.

[blackleopard92]

noo i buy national disks, rs 10 only!

[casanova]

I also prefer sony to moserbaer. But I was never disappointed with any of the mosaer baer cds/dvds

[Pathik]

yea man.. None of my dvds hav ever been bad quality.. Be it unique 12rs or moser baer 40rs

[caleb]

I've used moser 4 a long time & continue to do so without any problem. As far as HP is concerned it is old news coz HP openly announced 2 years ago that HP had outsourced cd manufacturing to moser. Also one needs to b careful with duplicate moser cd's so check b4 buying.

[drvarunmehta]

All DVD's are labeled as 4.7 GB, not just MoserBaer.

[goobimama]

Got to admit the market is flooded with mosers. Nothing but mosers. i would have loved to buy some verbatim, mitsubishi or that yung tung whatever for a premium, the all I get is moser...

[rajasekharan]

I use all types of dvds . . I just burn them in 6x or slow .and put max 4gb . Never had any trouble .

I just have 1 question. I brought a Moser Baer and if you look at bottom it is blue in colour. Is it a fake?.

[Kniwor]

who's this guy coming out of the blue, making one post, and bashing Moserbaer in that.

secondly, the info on that page seems unreliable, from what it seems, some guy just made that page up overnight, collecting info from here n there, and when it came to moserbaer and less known brands, he kept in lower class or something.

[caleb]

Originally Posted by Kniwor

who's this guy coming out of the blue, making one post, and bashing Moserbaer in that.

secondly, the info on that page seems unreliable, from what it seems, some guy just made that page up overnight, collecting info from here n there, and when it came to moserbaer and less known brands, he kept in lower class or something.

I totally agree

[tuXian]

Never faced problems with moser baer...infact scratchy moser baer disk work while others stop working.

[Maverick069]

Mostly buy Sony, but the time I bought Moser, I have not had any problems.

[Ramakrishnan]

I WAS USING mOSER BAER AND AT PRESENT SONY BECAUSE THE PRICE OF THE dvd MEDIA OF BOTH ARE SAME. ONCE I LOST DRIVE BECAUSE OF MOSERBAER'S INNER RING TO HOLD IT BROKE INSIDE THE DRIVE MAKING ONE HELL OF A NOISE AND SCARING THE WITS OUT OF ME. I LOST DATA, I LOST DRIVE WORTH RS.2750/- AND I LOST CONFIDENCE IN MOSERBAER. AFTER ALL IT IS MANUFACTURED IN A NOIDA FACTORY. THERE COULD BE SOME TRUTH IN THIS.
I checked ID of my sony discs and it is SONY16D1, which I learned from the net gives good results. This guy's site also gives a good opinion about this ID. These are manufactured in Taiwan.

[nishant_nms]

My friend bought 10 MB CD-RWs and 7 out of them went bad in a month. So now a days I do not buy MB

[drvarunmehta]

CD-RW's are especially susceptible to scratches. If you don't handle them properly they won't last beyond a few burns.

Never use Eurovision. They're the worst. Half of the ones i bought never worked.

[sharptooth]

Originally Posted by Kniwor

who's this guy coming out of the blue, making one post, and bashing Moserbaer in that.

secondly, the info on that page seems unreliable, from what it seems, some guy just made that page up overnight, collecting info from here n there, and when it came to moserbaer and less known brands, he kept in lower class or something.

LOL I m just a simple guy just like u all. Hah i have no idea of watsover regarding bulding a website in oneday or one year, cos im no web designer or watever.

Regarding moserbaer discs i've also been using them for a long time(since they came out), burned a lot of them, no problem until recently when i tried to copy a file from one of my moserbaer archives which i burned about 2yrs ago, it gave some "data redundancy cyclic error" and stops, i have three drives and none of them can copy the file, the case was not only with 1 disc but 17 of them, others a ok till now.

SO MY PRECIOUS DATA IS GONE FOREVER.

I trusted Moser and this is what it gives. False archival gurantee. Can the people of Moser Baer recover my data back.

Thats why i decided to post a topic on these, i wanted people to be aware of this, and stop buying cds/dvds from those who make fake promises.

And there is no point in saying that someone build that page overnight. Just google the MID : MBIPG101W04, the first three letter stands for Moser Baer India or may be International , the W stands for Write(RW), the others i don't know.

As far as i know Sony is the No.1 brand, i wud stick to Sony from now on, and rewrite all the left archives on to Sony.

Moser Su*ks and will su*k your valuable data very slowly as time passes by, and one day u will find that it has completly suc*ed it.Throw it away(my personal advice).

[drvarunmehta]

You can't just burn data and expect to retrieve it 2 years later without taking some precautions.

Firstly there is no guarantee that the data was ever burn properly. Did you verify the contents after burning? It could easily be the fault of the DVD writer not the media.
Secondly the disc could easily have been damaged due to improper handling/storage/humidity.
Finally, you should never burn such important data on a single DVD. You should have a copy on another disc or an external HDD.

I've been using MoserBaer for a very long time now and I haven't ever had a problem with it.

Originally Posted by sharptooth

LOL I m just a simple guy just like u all. Hah i have no idea of watsover regarding bulding a website in oneday or one year, cos im no web designer or watever.

Regarding moserbaer discs i've also been using them for a long time(since they came out), burned a lot of them, no problem until recently when i tried to copy a file from one of my moserbaer archives which i burned about 2yrs ago, it gave some "data redundancy cyclic error" and stops, i have three drives and none of them can copy the file, the case was not only with 1 disc but 17 of them, others a ok till now.

SO MY PRECIOUS DATA IS GONE FOREVER.

I trusted Moser and this is what it gives. False archival gurantee. Can the people of Moser Baer recover my data back.

Thats why i decided to post a topic on these, i wanted people to be aware of this, and stop buying cds/dvds from those who make fake promises.

And there is no point in saying that someone build that page overnight. Just google the MID : MBIPG101W04, the first three letter stands for Moser Baer India or may be International , the W stands for Write(RW), the others i don't know.

As far as i know Sony is the No.1 brand, i wud stick to Sony from now on, and rewrite all the left archives on to Sony.

Moser Su*ks and will su*k your valuable data very slowly as time passes by, and one day u will find that it has completly suc*ed it.Throw it away(my personal advice).

Oh gosh. Iam having goosebumps reading this. I brought 100 blank dvd for 2500RS and i have more 10 dvd to burn. Now i dont know if all the data i stored will be gone. .

[sharptooth]

and BTW Moser baer disc r the only one in world who manufactures using their own foolish techniqes like extra layer for protection which makes the disc thicker and out of standard. Mention any other brand who uses such abnormal techniques. There r none, look at other top class manufactures such as Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden, Sony, Maxell, TDK none of them use such awkward method of manufacturing cd/dvd.
Moser baer targeted us the Indians fooling that a thicker disc will prove to be of better quality. But many don't realize that a thicker disc is out of the standard specifications of a CD/DVD and will not perform as the drives were designed to.

[blackpearl]

Never trust home burnt discs to hold your important data. Whether its moser baer or sony or any others, they are bound to go bad after a few years. Backing up on a hard disk is the best way to go. Believe me, hard disks are more relaible than burnt CDs and DVDs, and new HDD rarely crash.

[sharptooth]

Originally Posted by drvarunmehta

You can't just burn data and expect to retrieve it 2 years later without taking some precautions.

talking about precautions all my burned media is stored in a protective case that comes with Moser.So there is no question of improper handling. About 2 yrs ago the price was also high i purchased 25/- per cd.

After burning every important data i always check data with nero.No in all case but do when the data is very important.

Sad to say almost all marriage ceremony cd's which i archived are gone. Fact is i trusted moser baer so much that i never thought of making a backup.

[Ricky]

Well, whether its true or not but Indian is mostly dumping place .. remember that Qualis