MAC & Widows: What if ? A hypothetical question

[detoknight]

Its a known fact
-Apple's Mac Os is tied to Hardware. i.e you do not get the OS without the whole computer.(unlike windows)
-(note: this is a questionable & debatable point) Practically speaking a windows pc with the same configuration as a MAC is cheaper. (for comparisons see link1 link2. comparisons include os cost)
-The windows platform as more applications & games than the Mac platform.

Here is a hypothetical situation for you:
Assume that
1.) For some crazy reason, even Microsoft decides to marry windows to Hardware (somewhat similar to windows phone 7).
OR if u find that hard to imagine,
Apple decides to sell their OS separately, just like windows , AT THE SAME PRICE .
I find both improbable, but anyway assume.

2.) Now assume both these Windows and Mac Pc's with similar configurations
would cost the same.


3.) say, by some technological breakthrough or something, all the applications & games can be made to work on both Windows & Mac.

Now since, everything would be the same in a win & a Mac pc. EXCEPT the OS,
Here is the Question:
-Answer the poll: Which OS will you Choose & why ?

[krishnandu.sarkar]

Mac Definately.

Much better than Windows.

[infra_red_dude]

MacOSX anyday, for the simple reason that it is "UNIX" and I am a UNIX guy since a long long time.

[Liverpool_fan]

Why a thread on assumptions?
As for me, I use Linux and continue to use it.

[Krow]

I would like to assume that all applications/games can be made to work in Linux as well. Go Open Source!

[SaptarshiGhosh]

Definitely Windows.
Reasons-
1. Macs are not available as Installation disc in other words they are tied to the hardware
2. Macs are extremely over pricey
3. Mac Books specially Mac Book Pro is a super flop in design and cannot be used for more than a hour (My elder brother owns it)
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
Future-
1. If Macs reduce their price-----Not Possible at least in a billion years
2. There is a/will be problem of hardware compatibility even if the macs are sold seperately

[Krow]

Originally Posted by krishnandu.sarkar

Definately.

Don't want to be picky, but this is one of the most common mis-spellings on the Internet. It's Definitely.

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Originally Posted by SaptarshiGhosh

Definitely Windows.
Reasons-
1. Macs are not available as Installation disc in other words they are tied to the hardware
2. Macs are extremely over pricey
3. Mac Books specially Mac Book Pro is a super flop in design and cannot be used for more than a hour (My elder brother owns it)
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
Future-
1. If Macs reduce their price-----Not Possible at least in a billion years
2. There is a/will be problem of hardware compatibility even if the macs are sold seperately

Read the first post please. It says that you are supposed to vote on the basis of these assumptions:

Apple decides to sell their OS separately, just like windows , AT THE SAME PRICE

say, by some technological breakthrough or something, all the applications & games can be made to work on both Windows & Mac.

[detoknight]

Originally Posted by SaptarshiGhosh

Definitely Windows.
Reasons-
1. Macs are not available as Installation disc in other words they are tied to the hardware
2. Macs are extremely over pricey
3. Mac Books specially Mac Book Pro is a super flop in design and cannot be used for more than a hour (My elder brother owns it)
4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development
Future-
1. If Macs reduce their price-----Not Possible at least in a billion years
2. There is a/will be problem of hardware compatibility even if the macs are sold seperately

I agree with your last 2 points.but this is a hypothesis game.
Imagine! what i was trying to ask here is, if all the apps were say available to MACs too and if they become cheaper, would you choose it? Im just being fair to MAC here.
the major reasons macs are a minority , is the price and the availability of apps.
See, if these 2 are looked over, you can easily say which OS is better for you.
Which one would you prefer?

I personally would prefer windows too, because
-i am used to it
-people around me are used to it
-more tweaking options (not talking abt tweaking softwares here)
so

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by SaptarshiGhosh

4. No .NET on Mac so no Rapid Application Development

WTH Just because YOU can't work or train yourself with Xcode and Objective C with Cocoa framework, and are only LIMITED to .NET and WinForms does not make Windows better As for a .NET like platform there a cross platform Mono project, you can check that out if you wish to bother. Heck you can develop with Java with development environment of Eclipse or Netbeans too
You can't develop in OS X is your fault not the platform problem [COLOR="Silver"]

Originally Posted by Krow

Don't want to be picky, but this is one of the most common mis-spellings on the Internet. It's Definitely

How about Widows?

[ico]

As far as only the Operating System is concerned, nothing comes close to Mac OS X. Period.

For gaming, nothing comes close to Windows.

[Apple Juice]

mac obviously.

[krates]

used mac once totally blown me off.. Gonna get a macbook pro

[celldweller1591]

Linux all the way but i surely give a try to Mac

[krishnandu.sarkar]

Originally Posted by Krow

Don't want to be picky, but this is one of the most common mis-spellings on the Internet. It's Definitely.

No no

It's absolutely ok......Thanks for correcting me

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by ico

As far as only the Desktop Operating System is concerned, nothing comes close to Mac OS X. Period.

For gaming, nothing comes close to Windows.

Fixed. Linux/*BSD/Solaris are better Operating Systems for servers.

[SaptarshiGhosh]

Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan

WTH Just because YOU can't work or train yourself with Xcode and Objective C with Cocoa framework, and are only LIMITED to .NET and WinForms does not make Windows better As for a .NET like platform there a cross platform Mono project, you can check that out if you wish to bother. Heck you can develop with Java with development environment of Eclipse or Netbeans too
You can't develop in OS X is your fault not the platform problem [COLOR="Silver"]

@Liverpool_fan: I was taking about Rapid Application Development not rigorous prog. with Java/Obj. C. Yes there is Mono project for open source counterpart of .NET framework but it has license and patent problems.
Check it out here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(s...80.99s_patents .
RAD is necessary when you need some off track task done.

@detoknight: Well, then also I would choose Windows.

[XTerminator]

How about Widows?

[ico]

Windows has loopholes.

[gopi_vbboy]

mac is a resource hog bloat...win is over bloatted ...though 7 is fine...linux has many distros...different package managers...though same kernel...bah ...

the main problem is there has to be platform independent application development work shud be easier....with win/mac/linux so many format...computers become complicated

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Originally Posted by ico

Windows has loopholes.

as if mac is secure...nothing is secure...even linux is hackable...but no one hacks...dont call loophole....cos security is a relative term IMO

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Originally Posted by ico

As far as only the Operating System is concerned, nothing comes close to Mac OS X. Period.

For gaming, nothing comes close to Windows.

dont generalise man...it depends on person to person...some say photoshop rocks on mac...some say urban terror rocks...does that mean linux for gaming:-P

[infra_red_dude]

Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

mac is a resource hog bloat...win is over bloatted ....

Sorry for being direct, but that statement is completely bull$hit!

[ico]

Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

dont generalise man...it depends on person to person...

I'm using three of them at the moment in my room on different machines. I think I'm in a little better position to comment.

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Originally Posted by gopi_vbboy

mac is a resource hog bloat...

It boots up in less than 10 seconds and shuts down in less than 4 seconds.

[Liverpool_fan]

Originally Posted by infra_red_dude

Sorry for being direct, but that statement is completely bull$hit!

It is "resource hog", "bloated" on your WALLET Apart from that, it is fine.

<offtopic>
And btw anyone used Steam and Source based games on Mac OS X? And how is ze performance?
</offtopic>

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Originally Posted by SaptarshiGhosh

@Liverpool_fan: I was taking about Rapid Application Development not rigorous prog. with Java/Obj. C. Yes there is Mono project for open source counterpart of .NET framework but it has license and patent problems.
Check it out here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)#Mono_and_Microsoft.E2.80.99s_paten ts .
RAD is necessary when you need some off track task done.

Mono's patent problems are debatable, Ubuntu and few other distros do bundle Mono Apps, it is not entirely certain it has license and patent problems (potentially it can have and sadly that does put many people off).
And that problem of yours is related only to .NET developers not a generalising statement.
I don't imagine a problem using Eclipse/Net Beans or Xcode (OS X only) for RAD than Visual Studio. The only problem is for .NET developers since they don't get the tools they are familiar with.

[gopi_vbboy]

Steve: when the last time we were poor?
Bill: i don't remember.
Steve: either me.
Both : hahahaha!



Steve: did you get the Iphone?
Bill: no
Steve: you lier . . .
Both : hahahaha!

[infra_red_dude]

Originally Posted by Liverpool_fan

It is "resource hog", "bloated" on your WALLET Apart from that, it is fine.

Agreed!