The 'DONATE TO DIGIT' Thread

[amol48]

Well lately Digit seems to try EVERYTHING to get a click or two from it's visitors and earn some money. Latest in the addition I have seen is ADs after the first post and last post. (It's a mod in vB)

The site already has few dozens of ADs on every page and adding this only seems how poor these people should have been! I now have to make my way for that readable piece of text that-is-not-AD here!

So come and please help Digit come out of the crisis. Donate these poor chaps a few bucks!

[p_dude]

Originally Posted by amol48

So come and please help Digit come out of the crisis. Donate these poor chaps a few bucks!

sure why not if these guys at least put some effort to fix the forum and the magazine

i was not even able buy digit in my home town for past few months and when i asked the shopkeeper he replied there are no agent available for my place and i was buying digit for since 2001

let them fix all the mess then I'll see about donating some money...

[tarey_g]

noble initiative

[Krazzy Warrior]

Originally Posted by tarey_g

noble initiative
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Digit forum without nagging ads and with new features = http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/programming/98035-neat-digit-forum-post945285.html

use this extension and be in peace(and if u dont use it then be in pieces )...If u are a regular Digitian than this extension is like boon

[dd_wingrider]

with time we can see their ads start coming in between the posts(another mod). So yeah its a neat start.

[Krow]

Use neat digit addon or else leave the forum. Thats all that is left.

[saqib_khan]

Yeah...these people keep on adding more & more advt.... But will Raabo & all listen, no. They dont care for this forum.

[Anorion]

yes, we read. post more, post more strongly, but be polite. Give details on why it spoils the experience, and mebbe there can be enough strong points for the issue to be taken up.

[rhitwick]

Originally Posted by Anorion

yes, we read. post more, post more strongly, but be polite. Give details on why it spoils the experience, and mebbe there can be enough strong points for the issue to be taken up.

Oh, "why it spoils the experience"?
Seriously r u guys deaf or something?
In forum improvement thread, people have posted it so many times...even Raaboo visited that thread once (and the outcome was banning a "few" members)

Do you know how long does it take to open the site in IE? My office browser just takes forever to load it.
Did, u read that newbie's post who told how annoying our site looks? (check, Intro thrd)
Previously the site could be tweaked with greasemonkey scripts/diff. extensions, now I don't know what u've done, it again shrunk.

Ads, well, ads would be there, u need them. But don't make them annoying.
Remove it for "registered members" (already suggested by some member)
Remove flash based ads.

[tarey_g]

Originally Posted by rhitwick

Previously the site could be tweaked with greasemonkey scripts/diff. extensions, now I don't know what u've done, it again shrunk.

Nobody put this on the extension thread or I'd have posted a new version (i thot no one had problem with it ), the shrunk thing is simple to handle. I will post the new verison tomorrow.

[Chirag]

how it spoils experience? the forum looks awful on my 17th inch monitor. Awful, trust me. I come here to read and not to click. I bet none of us clicks. I mean, make the damn ads visible for unregistered members. None of us is going to click the ads. I will even type the damn url of 'your' adsense ads to visit the site but NEVER click an ad here because its pissing off.

It ruins the whole damn experience. When I am in the photography thread, I don't want to know what Manmohan Singh is doing, I don't want to visit your partner site, I don't want to how to fking renew my subscription. I JUST WANT TO SEE PHOTOS CLICKED BY FORUM MEMBERS. Magazine full of ads, huh fine, I stopped buying it but now forum too. Instead of fixing the forum, you guys keep adding advertisement.

I even dislike the header you guys have put up there. I just want a neat forum. I can use extension and make it neat, fine but hell why you guys messing up with your old members. How many times should we tell you? How many times? You exactly know what the problem is, you exactly know how to fix it but you won't, instead you come here and ask us again what problem do we have.

Don't tell me you guys like visiting the forum full of ads! We just want to read. So again I am telling you what our PROBLEM is: advertisements, forum bugs - I still get the random 'wait for 30 seconds error between posts', even when it is my first post.

This forum was perfect earlier. I actually liked coming here but now its bloated with ads. I come here for like 1 thread - Photography. Trust me, there are hardly 10 members in the whole forum that keep the forum alive. Don't spoil the experience for those loyal members.

PS: Will I get a ban? I tried to be polite. Hope it works.

[Gigacore]

AdBlock

[desiibond]

Originally Posted by Anorion

yes, we read. post more, post more strongly, but be polite. Give details on why it spoils the experience, and mebbe there can be enough strong points for the issue to be taken up.

1) forum now looks awkward with less real estate for "The Content"
2) headache to see so many ads when using mobile browser and slows down too
3) due to the more ad content, we may end up finishing the mobile phone's data download limit faster
4) What is the need for ad's in forum when you have ads all over the magazine and in thinkdigit.com pages. Am sure none from the forum ever cares about any of those ads.

[Krow]

I have requested already Anorion. Thanks for posting here at least. Let me place my requests.

1. Ads to disappear when one logs in.
2. If not 1. , then ads on the sides to be removed. Forum width is a need for us.
3. The amount of ads are just serving one purpose, hog bandwidth and in extension drive away members. Not everyone has a 2mbps line to not notice this and you people have to appreciate that fact. I visited a couple of other Indian forums and I was surprised at their speed. Having been a member only here, I did not appreciate the fact that forums could actually be faster.
4. I dont need any fixing of the forum as long as you dont pop in more and more ads.
5. If you want to put more and more ads for revenue, then you must give us a bug free forum. Frankly, this forum looks more like a bandaged/plastered one rather than an injury free one. The problem that Chirag mentioned about 30 seconds to post is one example. The forum AFAIK has gone in an auto double posting mode, with no control over double postings, and hence that 30 seconds between two posts fix was applied to stop the double posts and spammers hogging the forum. That's what makes sense to me anyway.
6. It is imperative that admins start fixing the forum instead of adding ads. When you have time to add more ads, why not give some to the forum. Spam still creeps in and this is a unique problem it seems, as I ave not seen any spam at other forums, why only here?
7. The new theme may be good looking to some, but it is slower and for takes longer time to load. I want a forum which does not hog my bandwidth.
8. Flash based ads are unwarranted, all they do is increase the RAM consumption of my browser and irritate me.
9. I have clicked only twice on the ads and that too before I started posting regularly. They only irritate me.
10. I know none of the suggestions are going to be taken into account. I think that if they were to be, then they would have been already. I know that if these are implemented, then many more members will be present here. It is a shame to have about 50-200 users max at a forum as well known as this. The number of members logged in here at any one time is never more than 25. This is sure to change if our voices are to be heard and something done for us.

[Aspire]

the side ads arent as annoying as the ads between posts!!
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Posted again:
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Most of us do use Tarey_g 's Neat Digit Forum extension but what about those who do not use Firefox??????????????????????
JUST GET RID OF THE ****** ADS!!!!!!!!!!

[Anorion]

When we take it up with our superiors, instead of saying "guys on the forum are ranting", it is much better to send a mail consolidating the points. desiibond's post was perfect for such purposes, but I consolidated everything rhitwick, Chirag, Krow and Aspire had to say, consolidated the points into a single mail, and sent it out. If nothing, will keep you posted on the reply.

[Krow]

Originally Posted by Anorion

When we take it up with our superiors, instead of saying "guys on the forum are ranting", it is much better to send a mail consolidating the points. desiibond's post was perfect for such purposes, but I consolidated everything rhitwick, Chirag, Krow and Aspire had to say, consolidated the points into a single mail, and sent it out. If nothing, will keep you posted on the reply.

The least you deserve is a BIG "THANK YOU". I would rep you for this post alone. I don't think any of us expected you to take it up with your superiors and this is a welcome change. Please keep us posted on the further developments. If nothing, then you may also link them to Techenclave forums, where unregistered members are greeted with a plethora of ads, but once they login, no ads whatsoever.

/me hopes that the superiors respond in a positive manner and TDF is restored to its old glorious period.

[ssk_the_gr8]

this forum has to be fixed(make it bug free) which is obvious...
hope anorion's mail wakes them up

[amol48]

A simple question "Why do you need SO many ADs at all?"

1. I mean you are not running this forum for profits, are you?
2. As far as I think, it is just a place for members of digit/subscribers to interact with each other.
3. Regarding recovering costs for servers I am pretty sure it's not as much as the ADs posted here. You can easily recover that in numerous ways if you keep the forum clean and neat.
4. Even if you fail to recover 100% costs, I don't think that should be a problem as it's anyways a publicity for Digit as a whole! Isn't that Digit wants after all?


I mean Digit now, in no way, looks like a Technology site. It looks like a forum created by a 15 year old to earn money using Adsense! (They do it better in fact). The only reason why I can't leave Digit so easily is because I have been it's member since 2005 and hence of course have attachment! But that doesn't mean I should take it the way it has gone now since the past few months.


HOWEVER, if the sole intention of running thins forum is 'Profit' then I don't have to say anything of the above and kindly ignore that. I will take my a$$ to somewhere else then

[Rahim]

^I highly doubt if TD is making any profit considering the bhikaari way they are conducting their business.

I have become immune to this mess in TDF and ANorion, its so hypocrital of you to label the complains as rants because they are not rants but complains from those members who really feel attached and watching TDF die is like a part of the body has stopped functioning. This is what Jasubhai managed to make TD and its forum: Goodwill.
But 9.9 is not a friendly company and judging by your tone of talking ,particularly in this post above (otherwise you are quite good), speaks so highly about high-handedness.

Heck, 9.9 and its fleet of highly qualified staff are giving serious competition to our Sarkari Babus.

History has reminded us the fate of those who show Arrogance. I'm afraid a part of me will soon meet that fate.

[Anorion]

^ I used the word "rants" to convey the feeling in the forum here to those above me, "complaining" or "whining" would (not) do as well, which is why I needed specific points... not on what you guys are doing here. I have a bad vocabulary, but don't have any high-handedness...
@amol48: Thanks, this really helps

[rhitwick]

Originally Posted by Anorion

When we take it up with our superiors, instead of saying "guys on the forum are ranting", it is much better to send a mail consolidating the points. desiibond's post was perfect for such purposes, but I consolidated everything rhitwick, Chirag, Krow and Aspire had to say, consolidated the points into a single mail, and sent it out. If nothing, will keep you posted on the reply.

Thank you Anorion for the Initiative.
As, a_rahim said, we have had enough martyrs, we need no more

[Rahim]

Its so amusing when a mod asks us, whats the problem? Regular members would always react the way I did. The problem are all listed and have been written many times and despite that if you ask us "Whats the problem?", I will read it; give an evil wry smile and log off.

Carry on.............

[Anorion]

^I know what the problem is, and frankly, I share some of the same problems as well. I guess you are not understanding what I am saying. I can't just go and say "look these are the problems with the forum, fix them." I can't even go and tell tehm "look these are the problems people are facing in the forum, fix them." What I can do, is say, there are a bunch of problems in the forum, the specific issues are <issue in your words> posted by <username>, and there are so many people facing the same problem and voicing their opinions. Now instead of one person's word, they have one person pointing out the problem, and supporting it with the words of so many others. That is a somewhat better approach I guess.
However, I can understand giving up on something that does not get fixed after a long time.

[JojoTheDragon]

After reading the almost the whole page i came to the conclusion that This so called "ThinkDIGIT Forum" Needs a makeover.

I suggest you the forum "Superiors" take a look at the TE forum and learn something.

[Krow]

Originally Posted by Anorion

^I know what the problem is, and frankly, I share some of the same problems as well. I guess you are not understanding what I am saying. I can't just go and say "look these are the problems with the forum, fix them." I can't even go and tell tehm "look these are the problems people are facing in the forum, fix them." What I can do, is say, there are a bunch of problems in the forum, the specific issues are <issue in your words> posted by <username>, and there are so many people facing the same problem and voicing their opinions. Now instead of one person's word, they have one person pointing out the problem, and supporting it with the words of so many others. That is a somewhat better approach I guess.
However, I can understand giving up on something that does not get fixed after a long time.

To have an admin communicate is really unusual, and that does help in some way. Yes, it does require some tact and diplomacy when dealing with superiors. However, if the forum continues to be unfixed, I'm not sure how many of us will linger. You already mentioned the reason why many members left the forum. The stagnant OSS and Programming forums are a testimonial to this fact. Most senior members left due to the forum not being fixed for a long long time.

[saqib_khan]

^^Yeah..thats true. Many senior members left this forum, because of so many bugs. After opening the forum, it feels like we opened it for just seeing the advts. You guys keep on changing the position of the advt, but I dont think you'll remove these advt. WE DONT WANT ADS. Another thing, this forum opens too slow, compared to other forums.

Closing point: Its up to you (admins or mods) to fix this forum or else many members will leave this forum. Again, remove these damn ads.

[amol48]

Originally Posted by Anorion

^I know what the problem is, and frankly, I share some of the same problems as well. I guess you are not understanding what I am saying. I can't just go and say "look these are the problems with the forum, fix them." I can't even go and tell tehm "look these are the problems people are facing in the forum, fix them." What I can do, is say, there are a bunch of problems in the forum, the specific issues are <issue in your words> posted by <username>, and there are so many people facing the same problem and voicing their opinions. Now instead of one person's word, they have one person pointing out the problem, and supporting it with the words of so many others. That is a somewhat better approach I guess.
However, I can understand giving up on something that does not get fixed after a long time.

Agreed! It's not that we never tried to 'convey' our problems in point-specific. Whenever and whatever we did it was ignored. This is one of those rare threads where admin is really interacting with us. I appreciate your help in this all but that's not all.

Like you said above, that you cannot say to your seniors that there are problems in the forum and that needs to be fixed but have to tell them that this username is facing these problems which others also have and blah blah. I just want to say, whatever way this thing works, it should not be difficult IMO. This forum has been since many years and it never faced problems till now. Why is it that this is happening only now!?

We never had any issues earlier such threads were never ever even seen on the forum. The fact that threads like this has become a daily routine, doesn't it explain my point? Is the new management to be blamed for all this then?

Look at this forum, I made a post in 'Fight Club' section somewhere around 3:45pm today and NO POST has been made since in that WHOLE forum! It's so deserted now. I mean doesn't the admins get this little thing also!?

I feel bad because I really liked this forum and cannot see it going down this way and hence the rants! I am sorry but I think this is purely the management fault and despite LOTS of previous efforts by my fellow mates this has been ignored and I am just giving MY last try. If it works then fine, otherwise I don't have any other option then!

[Anorion]

Ok, I think some people on the forum itself preferred ads between posts to the ads on the sides. Anyone interested can always mail editor@thinkdigit.com for any kind of suggestions and feedback on the forums...

[thewisecrab]

Look, Ads aren't a bad thing. Heck, even I'm trying to make money through them.

BUT

There is a better way to implement them. Look at TechEnclave forums. Ads are there too, but they are not at all intrusive and "IN YOUR FACE" like it is here.

Add to it a much faster db, lite on dial-up and no bugs in posting and that makes it 1 hell of a forum. This forum too was that way. I'm sure it can be brought back that way even now.

Just my 2 paise