Why is metal not considered a part of the main stream music ?

[Psychosocial]

I have been thinking over this for a long time. Why is metal so ignored ? Why aint it considered as a part of the main-stream music ? Sure there are bands like Metallica and Iron Maiden, etc who are very popular but what about black and death metal bands ? Why aint they so popular ?

[iMav]

Maybe because metal is an element.

[Hitboxx]

Maybe because not everyone is in Satan's grasp ;P

[IronManForever]

Originally Posted by KPowerMania

Why aint they so popular ?

Eh? They arent?

Maybe because as a genre; they have the following traits.
1. Should be loud to enjoy. Loudness isnt loved by all.
2. Most high-tempoed, not easily understandable.
3. Transtitions within the song maybe difficult to digest.
4. Patroned by a bunch of cocaine-snuffing-emos.
5. Can't be played at wedding parties.
6. Not all people play/understand instruments. And so not all will actually give due respect to the drum, guitar, piano, whatevers played in the songs. Pop, in turn does not need such an understanding.
7. Lyrics are much inhuman, un-productive and IMo worthless. though I do enjoy the songs.

metallica, iron maiden, thats enough for meh.

[Psychosocial]

But what about Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Behemoth, Gojira, Children of Bodom, Mayhem, Emperor, Immortal, Satyrico, etc Black/Death Metal bands ? They are one of the best instrument players in the world (Alexi for an example). There is this underground band called Disrepute... they have made this song called Insanity which has one of the most fastest, the most advanced drumming I have ever heard. If you listen to it, you will think its impossible to drum so fast but its not ! Then why are they so ignored and mostly condemned as 'bad' stuff by the society. They are sidelined as 'noise' . Ok leave Death/Black but what about SlipKnot ? They belong to Nu Metal but still they are not so popular. Why ? Just because their vocalist uses a Death Growling tone ? Or just because their lyrics have more 'fu.cks' then most songs ? SlipKnot has been blamed for inspiring a young teen for murder.... now this is crap BS. What about thrash (your so called great Metallica and IM belong in this one) ? Isnt Slayer been in spotlight for making songs like 'Disciple' ? (The songs main lyrics are something like "God Hates Us All") The song actually talks about the inefficiency of the Government and thats they condemn it . Ok leave the genres. I see no point in sidelining Metal as a music genre. In India, Metal concerts are VERY rare and why ? Because of some dumb, and crap culture of God and what not .

[Faun]

parental advisory

[Psychosocial]

^^Blame Al Gore's stupid ass wife .

[Faun]

Well in india its pop and rap + rick roll

lolz...

[Psychosocial]

^^In my town ==

Coolest artist --> yo man, its teh dumB Emin3m....

The most brutalest/fastest/heaveist/kick-ass artist = Linkin Park

[thewisecrab]

Originally Posted by KPower Mania

^^In my town ==

Coolest artist --> yo man, its teh dumB Emin3m....

The most brutalest/fastest/heaveist/kick-ass artist = Linkin Park

Dude, it takes a while to grow into metal
I graduated from Bollywood music to Linkin Park, Bon Jovi 2 years ago
And from Linkin Park to Metallica, Megadeth, CoB about a year back ....
But I graduated by choice as I wanted to listen to more music....

[rhitwick]

@KP
One question to you, provide more than 5 reasons why people should LIKE metal (Trash, death only)?

[Psychosocial]

Originally Posted by rhitwick

@KP
One question to you, provide more than 5 reasons why people should LIKE metal (Trash, death only)?

1. One of the best instrumentals. Actually the fastest. See Kirk Hammet, Dimebag Darrell, Alexi Laiho

2. Best bassist. See Steve Harriss of Iron Maiden.

3. Fast music. 70% of today's youth prefers fast music and so they listen to LP and what not. Its just that they are not exposed to Metal .

4. Agreed that 80% of lyrics contain un-human stuff but sometimes, they are informative too. Sometimes, they talk about the inefficiency of Government and thats why face opposition. See Disciple from Slayer.

5. The glitz and glamour related Metal. The charm of the concerts. Fans getting together and enjoying it a different manner. Going crazy over it.

6. Metal kinda gives an element of power. Some lyrics just inspire us to get up and do what we aspire to. In Metal language, "**** you, I won't do what you tell me" .

7. Metal generally irons out the wrong superstition related to religion, etc opening the eyes of people who listen to it.

8.The fan clubs created by the bands themselves (CoBHC ,etc) give a feeling of ironing out ones loneliness. It makes you fell that you are a part of something. Coz ultimately everything in Metal is larget than life.

9. It inspires a lot of people to pick up an instrument and start playing.

10. Carves one imagination.

Originally Posted by IronManForever

Eh? They arent?

Maybe because as a genre; they have the following traits.
1. Should be loud to enjoy. Loudness isnt loved by all.
2. Most high-tempoed, not easily understandable.
3. Transtitions within the song maybe difficult to digest.
4. Patroned by a bunch of cocaine-snuffing-emos.
5. Can't be played at wedding parties.
6. Not all people play/understand instruments. And so not all will actually give due respect to the drum, guitar, piano, whatevers played in the songs. Pop, in turn does not need such an understanding.
7. Lyrics are much inhuman, un-productive and IMo worthless. though I do enjoy the songs.

metallica, iron maiden, thats enough for meh.

Does this means people who listen to Pop are a bunch of brainless dumb asses ?

[thewisecrab]

Didnt you read my post
I said that metal grows on to you over time.

[Psychosocial]

^^Pop or RnB fans might have it for small time but Metalheads are serious about their music. Its real. You will never see a person who will say that he liked Slayer once but you will see many who have got 'Slayer' carved across their hand.

[Zangetsu]

@KPM: apni-apni pasand.....

I dont like Metallica coz they only shout & loud..... & after listening 2 them its like ur head really bcome a metal type...

its like :
1) LP > Pink Floyd > Metallica

c i have never heard KORN & Smokie & people say they r cool...so i'll update myself after hearing 2 their music...

[Psychosocial]

^^WTF is a Smokie ? And forget Korn, they suck.

Metallica ONLY shouts ? What about some of their songs called One, Nothing Else Matters, Unforgive I, Unforgive II, Unforgiven III, etc ?

Please dont drag Pink Floyd or LP here....

[rhitwick]

@KP
I know u know this, but once again, c wat wiki tells about Metal.
No, No, its not a proof that Metal is bad, its the various genres of Heavy_Metal.
LINK

And, I just came to know that I love Doom Metal, Neo Classical Metal and Nu Metal

[Psychosocial]

^^Nu-Metal has only one good band and incidentally that is one of my fav. band, its called SlipKnot. Though now a days, they are categorising them as Death Metal which is good . They deserve it. Their music is much better than the Nu-Metal posers. Doom Metal is OKish. They creat a nice ambience though. But no match to ambient Black Metal and Blackened Death Metal. For more info, listen to Cradle of Filth . Neo Classic Metal.... .

[manishjha18]

i don't think metal is not popular--those who listen English music genuinely---would definitely like it.
who can ignore system of down,korn,Slipknot,Rammstein,Iron Maiden--etc
and my favorite disturbed

[Psychosocial]

SOAD is Metal o_0

[manishjha18]

http://www.last.fm/tag/metal

definitely--

[Psychosocial]

I thought they were Hard Rock.... w/ever they are, they make some respectable music.

@manishjha18

Did you tag SOAD as Metal.. ?? It looks so.

[manishjha18]

hehe no no--i myself was bit amused to find soad in metal group--but i totally trust last.fm--even if they say pop i would believe them

hey kpower can you list your favorite metal track with singer name---
i just want to add it to my library.( say your top 10)

[Psychosocial]

^^Leave it. The kids in your house (if any) will start crying .

Anyways, here they are (in no particular order) :-

1. People=Sh1t by SlipKnot
2. Hellhounds on My Trails by CoB (Children Of Bodom)
3. In Your Face by CoB
4. Needled 24x7 by CoB
5. Moonlight in Chaos Shone by Nighshade
6. Disciple by Slayer
7. Insanity by Disrepute
8. Swansong of a Raven by Cradle of Filth
9. Tears Dont Fall by Bullet For My Valentine
10. Master of Puppets by Metallica

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by KPower Mania

^^Leave it. The kids in your house (if any) will start crying .

& also KPM....

here they are (updated) :-
1. From the Inside by LP
2. Somewhere I belong by LP
3. In Your Face by CoB
4. Needled 24x7 by CoB
5. Moonlight in Chaos Shone by Nighshade
6. Disciple by Slayer
7. Insanity by Disrepute
8. Swansong of a Raven by Cradle of Filth
9. Tears Dont Fall by Bullet For My Valentine
10. Master of Puppets by Metallica

[Psychosocial]

^^Paranj (my name) and Linkin Park.... this two dont go well together. So please, remove the above post or I might take it a newer level .

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by KPower Mania

^^Paranj (my name)

Oh...so dats ur real name..then henceforth i'll call u Paranj...

Originally Posted by KPower Mania

and Linkin Park.... this two dont go well together.

but where will u go together with metal...

Originally Posted by KPower Mania

So please, remove the above post or I might take it a newer level .

hmm..magic word...
Btw..wats the new level...it thought it was "Game Over"

[Psychosocial]

^^W/ever.... do what you want..

n00b

[MetalheadGautham]

Well, you need to see that not everyone listens to the same thing. Mainstream means whats "hip" and "popular", and metal does not fit the category. Nor does Symphonic music. Nor does Classical Music. But that DOES NOT mean that they suck. Only that a majority does not have interest in them.

[Zangetsu]

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

Well, you need to see that not everyone listens to the same thing. Mainstream means whats "hip" and "popular", and metal does not fit the category. Nor does Symphonic music. Nor does Classical Music. But that DOES NOT mean that they suck. Only that a majority does not have interest in them.

Here comes the Metal. ..but what u feel abt it..do u also like Metal Music ?