Which 7mp digital camera is the the best?

[sidcool]

which out of sony,canon & nikon is the best 7mp dig cam?

[vijay_7287]

nikon all the way

[mohit]

y specifically 7mp ? y dont u post ur budget so we can help u buy a digicam accordingly ?

megapixels are not the only thing that u should look for while buying a digicam.

[NikhilVerma]

I wonder why didn't you include Kodak ... Because v705 dual lens camera is a great 7MP camera from Kodak .... Just read the reviews on the internet

[sysfilez]

the more number of mega pixels the bigger the printouts.

[mohit]

Originally Posted by sysfilez

the more number of mega pixels the bigger the printouts.

BIG deal.

[Tech Geek]

I will go for Nikon.

[sidcool]

well what i am looking for best in built memory,pic quality and economical price(according to features) my bugdet is from Rs. 20000 to 25000 .

[sidcool]

well what i am looking for best in built memory,pic quality and economical price(according to features) my bugdet is from Rs. 20000 to 25000 .

[NikhilVerma]

Well we seriously need more detail before one can give u any advice. MP of a camera do matter when u are going for larger print sizes. But if you are not interested in printing then there are other cameras which have lower MPs but have great features.

[mohit]

20-25k ...hmm get the Sony DSCH2 or Canon S3IS ....real good cams.

[ranjan2001]

Originally Posted by sysfilez

the more number of mega pixels the bigger the printouts.

Very well created myth by those companies who want you to buy cameras every year.

Some time compare a 5MP cell phone camera with a 2 MP digicam with 1MP digi SLR & you will get to know if MP is what makes the print big or not.

Its the quality of pixels which matter not how many of them which matters.

[mod-the-pc]

Sony DSC H5 would be a good deal I guess

[NikhilVerma]

Originally Posted by ranjan2001

Very well created myth by those companies who want you to buy cameras every year.

Some time compare a 5MP cell phone camera with a 2 MP digicam with 1MP digi SLR & you will get to know if MP is what makes the print big or not.

Its the quality of pixels which matter not how many of them which matters.

It is indeed ... But when are you are talking about the top of the line companies like Sony, Kodak, Canon and Nikon. I don't think a 2 MP camera of any brand will beat the 5MP camera of the same or the other brand. megapixels DO matter otherwise you would be taking pictures in 640x480 resolution rather than 3072*2304 it's only that if it's the range of +-1MP then the lower resolution cam might be better than the higher res. But if there is a difference of over 2 MP in between two cameras I don't think the lower res camera can claim to have better quality than the higher res camera. Also mind you that some cameras like Kodak digitally enhance the photos WHILE you shoot them, so that they appear better than other cams.

[ranjan2001]

some cameras like Kodak digitally enhance the photos WHILE you shoot them

all cameras need to do that not only kodak, since the image is captured on CCD in single channel only, where as the output is required in 3 channel RGB.

I don't think the lower res camera can claim to have better quality than the higher res camera

Since I own 4 of the canon cameras I can claim that, try to understand this objectively.

THe CCD size remains constant, 2 yaers ago it contained only 6MP, today it contains 8MP, next year it will contain 10 MP just wait n watch it will soon contain 100MP......................now when u increase the pixel without increasing the size of CCD you need to reduce the size of pixel, thats where the problem is.

Its like a child has 1 bar of chocolate, he is told 10 will be better....well he gets 10 pieces of the same chocolate, its the number game which people are attracted to & the companies are playing it.

No one bothers about the quality of pixels bcoz of ignorance. The sony camera boasting 10MP resolution is one classic example of this, I can beat the results any time with my oldest 4 mp OBSELETE camera from canon bought 6 yrs ago.
Reason is simple the pixel size in 4mp is bigger which helps better tonal range to be captured in low light conditions, whereas 10MP sony will bring NOISE 50% in the same low light conditions.

My point is simple dont make decisions to buy camera on MP count, its like how much ram does thsi computer have? does that question sound right? no................... bcoz 1GB of cheap ram vs 512mb of compatiable ram will out proform the higher 1GB ram.

[NikhilVerma]

Perhaps you are right about CCD sizes. But can you provide some example of it ? I'm just curious ... Take same pictures from your different canon cameras and post them here.

And the enhancing thing you are saying is called conversion, I am talking about enhancing , changing the normal image. Like increasing the saturation of the images etc

[ranjan2001]

And the enhancing thing you are saying is called conversion, I am talking about enhancing , changing the normal image. Like increasing the saturation of the images etc

All cameras record image in its native raw format & the image is captured in single channel, which is only dark & muddy black & white image, from this data the analog to digital convertor calulates the RGB value based on single channel (green) & has to make red & blue pixels, this is where all the enhancing R&B, tonal correction, saturation, sharpness etc is done as per the setting choosen in the camera & has to be done if you want jpeg images.

Cheaper camera dont allow you to save raw formats but they still capture in raw & raw files from any camera will out perform its own jpeg images. So its all about understanding pixels & its quality, if you do then you can easily do the same job with 6MP rather than a 10MP camera.

Will post some images when I am free, so you can see for yourself.

[janitha]

@ranjan2001
Megapixel is not all but it matters much.
Processor is also very important.
CCD size is important. In case of full size (36mmx24mm) CCDs like in case of high end Digi SLR cameras like Canon EOS 1Ds it produces much better quality in addition to being able to use ordinary lenses without change in focal length. (Sorry, in case of Canon it is CMOS and not CCD)
Finally, not all sensors (CCDs) output in single channel as you said. The brand Sigma (reputed independent lens manufacturer) has (for the past few years) a sensor which outputs separate RGB. They call their CMOS sensor Foveon. In the case of their "SD9D" model the sensor is Foveon X3 CMOS (3.54 million pixels x 3)
See the link below
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02...veonx3tech.asp

[Kiran.dks]

I recommend Sony Cybershot DSCW70 7MP Digital Camera

Features:

7.2 Megapixel Super HAD CCD
Large 2.5"1 LCD Screen
Simple Controls, Function Guide
High Sensitivity Mode
Carl Zeiss 3X Optical/2X Digital Zoom/6X Total Zoom
Stamina Battery Power
14X Smart Zoom Feature
Capture Images In-Camera
Memory Stick Duo Media

[ranjan2001]

The brand Sigma (reputed independent lens manufacturer) has (for the past few years) a sensor which outputs separate RGB. They call their CMOS sensor Foveon.

hahha I indeed forgot that people buy this camera too & yes this does not record images in single channel, it does RGB composite developed by Faveon.

Some 6 years ago I had seen a demo of this sensor costing 16 lakhs & it never saw the light of the day, sigma is written off from the commercial market inspite of having technically advance sensor which proves a point that commercial viability of technology is quite important.

[drgrudge]

I'm planning to buy a Digicam. This Dubai Shopping festival is around the corner as well. Even in the GITEX promotions, I saw Nikon and Canon 6 MP models (I don't know the name of the models) for Dhs 1000 (~ Rs 12,000) with 1GB/512MB card and Epson Photo Printer. Sony 7/8 MP model was costing around Dhs 1,450 (~ Rs. 17,000 - 17,500). Are these cams cheap? We'll be getting similar type of offers during DSF as well. Can I go for them?

Now my cousin is going to Chennai (via Dubai where he'll be waiting for over 5-6 hours for the Emirates conmnecting flight to Chennai). So I want to know if cams are cheap in USA, Dubai or in India? I've no idea abt the rates of various cams in India.


I was also thinking that higher the MP, better the cam and the prints. This thread dispelled that myth.

I don't care about the brand whether it's Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fujifilm or Kodak.. I want to buy a good cam with the picture stabilization thing, good quality in low lights as well and should last long. I'm ready to spend upto Dhs 1500 (~ Rs 18,500 / $425).

Suggestions guys.... Also where to buy? In Chennai, New York or in Dubai?

[Kiran.dks]

Sony, Nikon and Canon are all reputed brands. I like Sony for using 'Carl Zeiss' lens, unargueably the best in lens manufacturers.

I recommend Sony Cybershot DSC-W70





Basic Features

7.2-megapixel CCD.
3x zoom lens (equivalent to a 38-114mm lens on a 35mm camera).
Variable digital Smart Zoom (up to 14x at VGA resolution), or 2x Precision Digital zoom.
Real-image optical viewfinder.
2.5-inch color LCD monitor.
Automatic and Program exposure modes.
Built-in flash with five modes and an intensity adjustment.
58MB internal memory.
Sony Memory Stick Duo slot (no card included).
USB 2.0 computer connection. for extremely fast transfers
Power from one rechargeable LiIon battery pack, charger included.
Software for Mac and PC.


Special Features

High Sensitivity, Twilight, Twilight Portrait, Snow, Beach, Landscape, and Soft Snap modes.
Movie recording mode (with sound).
Multi-Burst slow motion mode (16 frames at up to 30 frames/second) and Burst continuous shooting mode.
Email (VGA) modes.
Shutter speeds from 1/1,000 to 1/8 sec in Auto mode; 1/1,000 to one second in Program mode, and 1/1,000 to two seconds in Twilight mode. Aperture range from f/2.8 to f/13, depending on zoom position.
Creative Color Mode menu.
Image Sharpness and Contrast adjustments.
Self-timer for delayed shutter release.
Macro (close-up) lens adjustment.
Spot, Center-Weighted, and Multi-Metering modes.
Adjustable AF area, two AF modes plus manual mode with five distance settings.
Auto ISO setting or 100, 200, 400, 800, and 1,000 ISO equivalents.
White balance (color) adjustment with six options.
DPOF (Digital Print Order Format) and PictBridge printing compatibility.

It's price in India is around Rs14500/-. Your budget of Rs18500 is too high for a 7MP Camera! You can stick to 7MP camera unless untill you don't want to print a mega poster of the snap. I will assure you that even with this one you will shoot at 3MP mode. At 7MP mode, the each mage size may go upto 10MB!

Regarding purchase, Dubai is a good option than US. If I was you, I would rather purchase in India considering its decent price.

[janitha]

Quote
"I like Sony for using 'Carl Zeiss' lens, unargueably the best in lens manufacturers."

Carl Zeiss is good but have you heard of the Canon lenses of L, IS and USM series?

[Kiran.dks]

Originally Posted by janitha

Quote
"I like Sony for using 'Carl Zeiss' lens, unargueably the best in lens manufacturers."

Carl Zeiss is good but have you heard of the Canon lenses of L, IS and USM series?

Well, I would have never quoted that statement if I didn't know about the Canon's L series. Amoung these two Carl Zeiss scores more. Seeing is believing right? Here is the proof!

http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/1740.html
http://www.16-9.net/ultrawides/

[janitha]

@kiran.rkk
The answer is quite simple.
It is childish to compare quality of a zoom with that of fixed focal lens.

[Kiran.dks]

Now I would say if your Canon 17-40mm produces such a horrible shot @21mm, better stay away from it! What is the need of such lens that specify range as 17-40mm? Good digital Camera's under only optical zoom will never produce such huge variations. They are manufactured to handle optical zoom in the specified focal length zone. Fact is fact. Whether you take it or ignore it in a childish way is left to you.

[janitha]

Any body who knows the basics of photography knows that the fixed focal length ones give better quality, the main reason being there are less no. of lens elements. Professionals prefer them.
Secondly vast majority of greatest photographers the world over prefer the L series ones and many hire it when they cant afford to buy.
Third, do you think a 17-40mm will perform equally at 17mm and 40mm?
(Sorry, we are deviating from the initial post.)

[Tushar.bar]

i used canon s3is its good 4 20k ~25k , 6mp, 12x Optical zoom, Rotatable LCD, Record video with streo sound 640x 480 @ 30 fps or 320x240 @ 60 fps
Direct movie botton and other exciting feature(google 4 it)

[sidcool]

which one of sony,nikon,canon have more built in memory

[janitha]

Each has various models with different specifications including built in memory. Further the built in memory is not that important, with memory prices so low nowadays.