Why Veg ?

[T159]

A choice
Is this the way:
http://whyveg.com/

or u choose this:
http://meat.org/
:rolleyes: :(:!:

[amitava82]

you've been rolling your eyes a lot lately.. lol

[The_Devil_Himself]

spam post reported.

[amitava82]

stfu you monster.. you should kill yourself before eating all those little pigs >.<
EDIT: Take filled-void with you too..

[The_Devil_Himself]

how come you know I am not a vegetarian?

SOBs.

this is how world is gonna end-->http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end (totally unrelated but i wuz watching this so i thought about sharing..)

[goobimama]

Bahut badiya site hai. I plan on going veggie. But it'll take a while…

[sreevirus]

The chickens I eat are fed vegetarian food AFAIK. :D

[iMav]

Bahut badiya site hai. I plan on going veggie. But it'll take a while…
Last I checked, fish isn't counted as a vegetarian.

[dOm1naTOr]

good site:)
btw im already pure veg:p

[amitava82]

I know someone (in this forum) who eats monkey.. :o

[FilledVoid]

EDIT: Take filled-void with you too..
:(

Its true that being Vegetarian is much more healthier. However I'm definitely not. Anyone who has grown up in Kerala under Christian folks would know what I'm talking about.

But on the light side, Also theres a freaking reason we are on the top of the Food Chain.

[goobimama]

Last I checked, fish isn't counted as a vegetarian.
Oooh. That will be difficult. I thought they were like...sea weed :)

[amitava82]

But on the light side, Also theres a freaking reason we are on the top of the Food Chain.
thats common excuse most ppl give :D Those creatures are meant to be eaten.

Even its rare to find a Bengali vegetarian; still I'm one. By choice. :)

[FilledVoid]

Even its rare to find a Bengali vegetarian; still I'm one. By choice
Didn't you mention once in IRC that you didn't eat non-veg because the animals give you nightmares :D?

[amitava82]

OMG WTF! :o

[dOm1naTOr]

OMG WTF! :o
lol:D:D

Oooh. That will be difficult. I thought they were like...sea weed :)

weeds? with a tail..and two eyes??
c'mon...they live in water dun mean they are veg like weeds:D
btw, there shud be some non veg to maintain the eco balance...or the fishes and chickens will rule the world!!;)

btw being a veg is easy on pocket too. while me and frens go to hotels, they pay 4~5x times the bill:D
i buy DVDs for that

and i never decided to be a veg just to save any pigs:D

[gagandeep]

Well, meat is easier to digest than cellulose (in vegetarian food). Thats why carnivores like tiger have got shorter small intestine and herbivores like Cow, Buffalo have got long small intestine (See their abdomen)...........And physically, human beings are made for non-veg food but we can still have veg. food but it is still harder to digest comparatively....

[jal_desai]

me veg. since 1986

[windchimes]

I am also a veg.(Proud to be one). Why you want to eat the deadbodies..??

[dOm1naTOr]

haha
scavengers

[gagandeep]

I am also a veg.(Proud to be one). Why you want to eat the deadbodies..??
Well, why are you then again giving harm to plants (they've also got life) ??.......

[MetalheadGautham]

veggie since I was born

[windchimes]

Well, why are you then again giving harm to plants (they've also got life) ??.......

Ofcourse yes, but as far as common sense goes we can easily differentiate between the
two.

[T159]

Well, why are you then again giving harm to plants (they've also got life) ??.......
at least they dont have nervous system and the reason is just not about morality.

Animal can think, they care for their siblings. How much your parents care for you ?

Hope you havent seen the torture (genetically manipulated). Visit http://meat.org/ for a man made hell :rolleyes:. You wont be courageous enough to watch full video, and if u do then think before eating that.

I slit your throat before decapitating you and before that i seal your mouth so you cant say a word ! How that feels ? :rolleyes: (please dont take it as personal)

Beside there are many other benefits too.

NOTE: I dont fcuking care for PETA or any other organization, its my own conscious decision.

[dOm1naTOr]

ya, most of the guys really dont know the torture behind the decorated meats in a hotel. If u have to do it all by yourself, then sure, u wont be liking to have it.

[gagandeep]

@T159, dOm1naTOr

Well, I'm a non-veg because I like eating it.....And its my own decision of being so.......Every person in my house (my parents, siblings) are vegetarians....

But you can't curse a Lion because he is a carnivore. Indeed, carnivores and herbivores are equally important.......How was the Sahara desert formed?? The romans took away all the Lions and the herbivores ate away all the plants......

And yes, while cultivating the crops we eat, loss of life is involved.......Insecticides, pesticides etc. are used to kill insects & pets........And Loss of life is even more while cultivating crops.....But who cares, they're just insects......

If you guys and those PETA activists (no offence to anyone) are so caring for the animals, then I must really say, you're devils in disguise [no offence].........Don't you use All-out, Good Knight (whatever) for killing Mosquitos......

Now please don't say that a Plant is a Plant, a Mosquito is a Mosquito and a Chicken is a Chicken.........

Getting & eating food in any form, whether it is Non-veg or Veg. involves loss of life......And remember, a loss is a loss, don't disrespect the plants by saying that they don't have nervous system........Do they have life??....Yes, they have and are the vegetarian guys killing them??........Yes, every living being is equal.....

The opinion on this topic varies from person to person........

[amitava82]

And physically, human beings are made for non-veg food but we can still have veg. food but it is still harder to digest comparatively....
Where did you get that info?

[gagandeep]

Where did you get that info?
Class Xth - CBSE Science text book........

I can even give you the PDF link if you want....

And thats because we don't have a very long small intestine to digest cellulose easily like the herbivores......

[windchimes]

It seems Gagandeep is so interested in plants so that he eats only animals ;-)

[gagandeep]

It seems Gagandeep is so interested in plants so that he eats only animals ;-)
Well, I eat what I like eating......My family members are also trying hard to turn me a pure veggie - But I'm denying........:D

And yes, I didn't get you very clearly.

[FilledVoid]

It seems Gagandeep is so interested in plants so that he eats only animals
That is probably the most strangest post I have heard of till date? What does that even mean? :D

[T159]

@Gagan
You are confusing voluntary action and involuntary action.

hope u will understand someday !

[amitava82]

Class Xth - CBSE Science text book........

I can even give you the PDF link if you want....

And thats because we don't have a very long small intestine to digest cellulose easily like the herbivores......
As far as I remember from my B.Sc.:
Humans have intestinal tracts that are much longer than carnivores of comparable size. Like other herbivores, longer intestines allow the body more time to break down fiber and absorb the nutrients from a plant-based diet.

[gagandeep]

@Gagan
You are confusing voluntary action and involuntary action.

hope u will understand someday !
Not actually.........

I very well know the difference between the two....
Voluntary actions are controlled by the the Cerbellum.(the left part of cerbellum controls the right part of our body and vice versa).........The involuntary actions are controlled by the Medulla...

Well, plants haven't god any nervous system, but they do have Chemical coordination....

@Amitava
Humans have intestinal tracts that are much longer than carnivores of comparable size. Like other herbivores, longer intestines allow the body more time to break down fiber and absorb the nutrients from a plant-based diet.
Yes, we have much longer as compared to pure Carnivores but they're still shorter as compared to pure Herbivores and thats why we're Omnivorous animals or Omnivores. Our Bio teacher has explained us all well........:D :cool:

In my post #17, I've said that Non-veg food is easier to digest comparatively for us as compared to vegetarian food..

//Offtopic: The name of our Physics teacher is Rekha and the name of our Bio teacher is Hema Malini..........Seriously.........:lol:

[windchimes]

An avid nonveg when commenting on respecting plants it looks a bit odd... so made that sort of a remark

[amitava82]

May be thats what YOU want to believe or your teacher wanted you to believe.

[T159]

Yes, we have much longer as compared to pure Carnivores but they're still shorter as compared to pure Herbivores and thats why we're Omnivorous animals or Omnivores. Our Bio teacher has explained us all well........:D :cool:

In my post #17, I've said that Non-veg food is easier to digest comparatively for us as compared to vegetarian food..
i remember a post here in this forum where i quoted some instances.

First of all, our dental structure favors mastication of food that are easily chewed. And there are less prominent canines. Observe a dog's canine and you will know for sure.

Cellulose is need for proper digestion, so that favors a veg diet.
We dont have renin and most of the people cant digest what renin is supposed to do.

Our intestine is longer and anything that cant be digested completely rots in and produces some really smelly gases. Meat is one of the most hard to digest thing. no wonder its the cause of gas problem and intermittent digestion problem.

may be your concepts in biology are still novice.

[FilledVoid]

An avid nonveg when commenting on respecting plants it looks a bit odd... so made that sort of a remark
Oh OK I interpreted it in a weird way :D.

[gagandeep]

An avid nonveg when commenting on respecting plants it looks a bit odd... so made that sort of a remark
Well, I clearly know that eating food will involve the loss of life whether veg. or non-veg.......So, I just care what I eat, not what others eat..........But if other people try to change my food habits, I try to also make them understand the same.....:)

May be thats what YOU want to believe or your teacher wanted you to believe.
Nope, I already knew that.....And anyways, I don't pay much attention in the class towards what is being taught....

[windchimes]

heyy this is turning as one VS all debate. Eat whatever you want. But make sure that
those animals deserve a decent death.

I AM A PROUD VEGGIEEE...

[gagandeep]

Our intestine is longer and anything that cant be digested completely rots in and produces some really smelly gases. Meat is one of the most hard to digest thing. no wonder its the cause of gas problem and intermittent digestion problem.
Well,
Carnivores = Short small intestine...
Omnivores = The length of the small intestine is medium. eg. Humans, dogs. But still meat is easier to digest.
Herbivores = Very long small intestine specially designed for herbal ingestion.

may be your concepts in biology are still novice.
May be, I don't care........;)

[amitava82]

heyy this turns as one VS all debate. Eat whatever you want. But make sure that
those animals deserve a decent death. I AM A PROUD VEGGIEEE...
Deserve? :o Why would they even deserve death? Who are we to decide who deserves what? If we human being are the most intelligent creature on this planet then we should act like one... and where is the intelligence in killing an unarmed innocent animal just to please our taste buds?

[T159]

@gagan
read this http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/vegwhy.html

may you see other reasons too :)

[gagandeep]

Our intestine is longer and anything that cant be digested completely rots in and produces some really smelly gases. Meat is one of the most hard to digest thing. no wonder its the cause of gas problem and intermittent digestion problem.

Dude, yes I agree its longer than pure carnivores.....We're omnivorous....

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7380/aaayq3.jpg

[windchimes]

I am not supporting a non veg here. But the word "deserve" doesn't mean they NEED to be killed but they don't deserve to suffer as we see and hence to show some decency in killing if these nonvegs can't survive without tickling their nostrils with these aroma rising from cooked dead bodies.

[gagandeep]

and where is the intelligence in killing an unarmed innocent animal just to please our taste buds?
And, then where is the intelligence in killing small Mosquitoes just to have a pleasant one night's sleep???

@gagan
read this http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/vegwhy.html

may you see other reasons too :)
Yes, I'm reading........:)

[windchimes]

Deserve? :o Why would they even deserve death? Who are we to decide who deserves what? If we human being are the most intelligent creature on this planet then we should act like one... and where is the intelligence in killing an unarmed innocent animal just to please our taste buds?

I am not supporting a non veg here. But the word "deserve" doesn't mean they NEED to be killed but they don't deserve to suffer as we see and hence to show some decency in killing if these nonvegs can't survive without tickling their nostrils with the aroma rising from cooked dead bodies.

[gagandeep]

I just wanted to say that......

Eat what you like.....Drink what you like.....Don't eat what you don't like.......

I'm out of this thread now.....

[amitava82]

Yes we are. meat-free diet is purely ethical reason for me and health concerns for others.

And, then where is the intelligence in killing small Mosquitoes just to have a pleasant one night's sleep???
I'll kill a tiger if it attacks me BUT I won't go for hunting just for fun. Same reason a snake won't bite unless its being attacked. Its called self defense.

[ray|raven]

Sheeesh, Why cant u guys just stick to your own tastes.
So , I dont eag Non-Veg , so somebody else does . Whats the god-damn point?

Its his/her personal opinion. Get over it.
People start making wierd topics now that they got bored of OS Wars.

[amitava82]

HAHHAHAH...

ray|raven was here.

[T159]

Yes, I'm reading........:)
Do you see the bigger picture ? :)

[gagandeep]

Do you see the bigger picture ? :)
Yes, I did see.....:)

but I still say, if you like it, then there is nothing wrong in consuming it......:)

But you can eat non-veg, once in a while......its completely fine eating......

I'm not a very hard-core non-veggie.......Just once in a week or two.

[T159]

Sheeesh, Why cant u guys just stick to your own tastes.
So , I dont eag Non-Veg , so somebody else does . Whats the god-damn point?

Its his/her personal opinion. Get over it.
People start making wierd topics now that they got bored of OS Wars.
ahem...ahem...better than nuke wars :D

[gagandeep]

People start making wierd topics now that they got bored of OS Wars.
Whats next........Football or Hockey or Cricket..........:lol:

[ray|raven]

HAHHAHAH...
ray|raven was here.

Die Amitava Die.

/offtopic : What happened to you nut? Dont see you on IRC.
Someone teased you? :p

[iMav]

All you non-veggies, die n00bs die. Veggies FTW! Viva la Revolution.

[Hitboxx]

I eat non-veg whenever I can, maybe will try some new meat soon. Rest all things and debates I just don't care.

[din]

Pure veg here (egg is only exception, eat it rarely).

Thing is none of my family members eat non-veg. But that is not the reason I became veg.

Worst thing is, my parents are no way against non-veg, I mean they never asked me not to eat non-veg. They left it to me. There were no restrictions at home or anywhere. No restrictions means no fun breaking such restrictions, so I became veg :D

Hmm ..They could have asked me not to eat non-veg very strictly, and the very next day I could have start eating non-veg. Seems they are more intelligent ;)

[ray|raven]

^@Din

Exact same thing here , my parents never told me not to Non-Veg , although they didnt encourage me either.

I do eat egg rarely , but thats the extent of that.

[karmanya]

Can this thread be closed? I remember an epic thread similiar to this in the fight club section. it proved no purpose, i doubt this will either

[FilledVoid]

50% of the threads in Chit Chat serve no purpose.

[goobimama]

Has anyone here been a non-vegetarian and then converted to Veg? Veg since birth is easy cause the smell itself is revolting to most veggies. Shifting later on in life is very difficult cause the smell is like a gentle melody played by a thousand angels.

About whether or not Humans are meant to eat here goes:

Man departed from chimps about 7 million years ago. Before they departed they were basically eating fruits and insects. However after departing, the Neanderthal man's diet was shifting mainly towards hunting animals. Fire was also discovered and meat was cooked. At about 500 thousand years man's diet was almost exclusively meat, eating veg only when meat was not available. Catching and trapping animals was the main reason why all kinds of spears and tools were developed, as there were not many conflicts among those beings.

The Cro-magnon man continued this meat eating when he replaced the Neanderthal at around 40,000 years ago. Agriculture only developed somewhere around 10,000 years ago possibly due to an explosion in population and less animals. The average height of man before this was 5' 10", but was reduced to 5'3" due to lack of nutrition gained from a vegetarian diet (it has since been steadily increased due to civilisation).

Saying that Man's teeth are not evolved for meat eating is not exactly correct. First of all, carnivores need those teeth for killing another, but man has evolved to be adept at killing using tools and other means. Remember, evolution is natural. Also, meat has been cooked so eating is easier. Third one is since we have opposable thumbs, we can use those to help us tear the meat unlike say a tiger who has to rely on its sharp canines.

And just as a sidenote, the eskimo's have to survive almost exclusively on meat. Without the fatty meat from polar animals and fish, there is no way for them to survive.

Now, why....so....serious?

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Btw no teacher taught me this. All their talks are bakwaas. Since I knew about technology I had to correct them like a million times during computer education. My brother had to correct his teachers so many times in his zoology class. So if you look at this, you generally find faults with the teacher when it is the subject that you are sure of. Doesn't this mean that they are also bakwaasing other subjects which you are unsure of?

[iNFiNiTE]

Has anyone here been a non-vegetarian and then converted to Veg?

me me me :D

Used to be a non-veggie but gave up eating when i reached abt class Xth.

Though I eat eggs now n then but non-veg is a strict no-no for me. Infact I am repulsed even at the sight of it nowadays. Can't believe I used to consume that once.:(

[dheeraj_kumar]

I'm pure veg, ever since birth. :) Veggie FTW!!! NonVeggie WTF!!!

[Third Eye]

I'm pure veg, ever since birth. :) Veggie FTW!!! NonVeggie WTF!!!


Do you consume dairy products.

[dOm1naTOr]

Has anyone here been a non-vegetarian and then converted to Veg? Veg since birth is easy cause the smell itself is revolting to most veggies. Shifting later on in life is very difficult cause the smell is like a gentle melody played by a thousand angels.

About whether or not Humans are meant to eat here goes:

Man departed from chimps about 7 million years ago. Before they departed they were basically eating fruits and insects. However after departing, the Neanderthal man's diet was shifting mainly towards hunting animals. Fire was also discovered and meat was cooked. At about 500 thousand years man's diet was almost exclusively meat, eating veg only when meat was not available. Catching and trapping animals was the main reason why all kinds of spears and tools were developed, as there were not many conflicts among those beings.

The Cro-magnon man continued this meat eating when he replaced the Neanderthal at around 40,000 years ago. Agriculture only developed somewhere around 10,000 years ago possibly due to an explosion in population and less animals. The average height of man before this was 5' 10", but was reduced to 5'3" due to lack of nutrition gained from a vegetarian diet (it has since been steadily increased due to civilisation).

Saying that Man's teeth are not evolved for meat eating is not exactly correct. First of all, carnivores need those teeth for killing another, but man has evolved to be adept at killing using tools and other means. Remember, evolution is natural. Also, meat has been cooked so eating is easier. Third one is since we have opposable thumbs, we can use those to help us tear the meat unlike say a tiger who has to rely on its sharp canines.

And just as a sidenote, the eskimo's have to survive almost exclusively on meat. Without the fatty meat from polar animals and fish, there is no way for them to survive.



thats all for the uncivilized humans..millions of years ago.
we are civilized now...so, i think we shud act like a civilized.

just imagine, if there was another creature on earth which has better intelligence. We mush have been perished if they adopt same strategy of eating the easy catch [they wont coz i already said...they are more intelligent :D ].

and sure loss of life is involved when pesticides and insecticides are employed on crops, but we can make sure we dun eat them [or like to eat].
lions and tiger hunt their prey with claws and eat them raw.
humans raise animals and kill them with knifes and eat them cooked.
this shows both has similar culture but humans are bit more intelligent.

and btw, the main reason y im veggie is wat din and goobimama said. And im proud. Atleast i can smile at the animals without seeing fear in their eyes [ i gettin senti:-| ]

[amitava82]

Has anyone here been a non-vegetarian and then converted to Veg?
Count me in.. :)

[windchimes]

http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/articles/vegetarianism.htm

http://www.britishmeat.com/49.htm

The Whole world is accepting the truth that veg is the way to be.

by the way where is Gagandeep ;-)

[gagandeep]

http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/articles/vegetarianism.htm

http://www.britishmeat.com/49.htm

The Whole world is accepting the truth that veg is the way to be.

by the way where is Gagandeep ;-)
Well, I'm still here......I've got my exam tomorrow.

But anyways, the thing in which Vegetarian food lacks is Proteins.......:D Non-veg food got a lot of proteins as compared to veg.......I'm not here advertising Non-vegetarianism, I just want to say that Eat What you like, Don't eat what you don't like.........:D

[windchimes]

Well, I'm still here......I've got my exam tomorrow.

.........:D

Then Go and study man. All the best for ur exams

[gagandeep]

Then Go and study man. All the best for ur exams
Thanx friend, but I'm not a nerd.......;)

[karnivore]

There are basically two types of veg: veg by chance and veg by choice.

Veg by chance: These are people born into a predominantly veg family/ society/ community/ religion. They try to rationalize their veg diet by all sorts of excuses, that they can hang on to. For these people, I have four letters. STFU.

Veg by choice: They have a variety of reasons. Health, Taste, morality etc. Health and taste are two good reasons, you just can’t argue against. (By health, I mean a condition that specifically requires to be on veg diet. It does not mean any potential hazard that a hypochondriac cooks up in his/her head, which most of us do and then claim “health reasons”.)

Those who chose veg. on the basis of morality, I have a bone or three to pick with.

1. Evolutionary need: @goobimama has explained it. So I don’t need to get into it again. I will just add, that omnivores are better equipped for survival. Because when meat is scarce they can fall back on vegetation and if vegetation is scarce, they can fall back on meat. It makes perfect sense. It gives omnivores a natural edge over just carnivores or just herbivores.

2. Vitamin and protein requirement: Vit B12, is what I have on mind. The only source of B12 is animal products like meat, milk and eggs. (Now there are veg who would have egg and milk to meet these requirements, most of the time, unknowingly)
Besides, vegetables don’t have all the proteins that a body need. That’s why a veg will have to consume a wide variety of vegetables to fulfill that deficiency. Meat on the other hand can do it without much ado. But here’s a catch which many veg does not seem to see.

All the vegetable that you have, are not grown in one place. It is geologically and climatically impossible. For example, the cooler climate of north west India is ideal for wheat. But the Gangetic plain is ideal for rice. That is why you see people from these regions having wheat and rice as their principal diet. Now think Inter-continental. The problem becomes magnified.

The point is, today’s veg is possible, because technology has made it possible for you to get all your vegetables under the same roof or place. Veg, a few thousand years ago would have been suicidal. People who cite the biology of humans to justify veg. don’t realize, that veg. is actually a creation of human genius and not something that was naturally meant to be.

3. Economics : Eskimos are good example. One example is England as well. The economics go like this. If land is in limited quantity, deforestation for agriculture would be suicidal. Animal farming becomes viable. Natural vegetation becomes fodder for the animals. These are then converted into proteins inside the animals. Then meat from these animals are consumed. It is basically conversion of plant nutrients, which can’t be tapped because of space restriction, to animal protein.

Someone here mentioned something that would give the impression that humans are allowed to kill in "self-defense". Fair enough. If self-defense is about survival, then why does killing animals for meat is immoral. I certainly hope that eating is as much valid for survival as “self-defense” is. (I of course support the thought that killing animals for meat must be made as quick and as painless as is scientifically possible. I am of course against those practices that require death by bleeding.)

Today’s organized farming uses lots of pesticides to kill pests that can harm a farmers produce. I guess that killing is ok. Those who take a moral high ground on veg. are living in a make-belief world. Its as if “Oh I am a veg. I don’t directly kill to survive. Hence am holier than thou.” What about those insects that are killed just so you can have that perfect apple for lunch ? I guess insects are not “animals” or they are too tiny to be worth the consideration.

Last, it seems NON VEG = CARNIVORES = ONLY MEAT diet. Can you be further from truth. Humans are firstly OMNIVORES and any comparison to CARNIVORE is grossly wrong. Non-veg have meat as well as vegetables.

And if you think that we non-veg are meat eating monsters, who, when see a puppy limping on one leg, break the other three and dance a victory dance, wake me up when you grow some brains.

Eat whatever you feel like…just don’t try to justify and don't judge.

[dOm1naTOr]

if thats the case, then y a man can't eat a man?

[sreevirus]

Coz man is not a natural cannibal. Some could be, by choice. But the choice could be driven by some belief, extreme misery or insanity. And when I say belief, the belief could be just on an opposite polarity to the ethical beliefs of some vegetarians. Take the Aghori tribe in India for example. They eat the meat of the dead because they believe that this act will give them some supernatural powers.

[Sunny1211993]

I generally don't eat non-veg but when I see someone eating it,my family members and all I just can't resist it.I eat it,it feels good,tastes good but after a while,I feel guilty.I feel as if I ate up someone who was alive.After eating an egg,I feel like I ate someone's child!I am DAMN EMO!
Same is the case with other techies on the forum who feel the guilt.I can't deny that non-veg is no less than a treat but the guilt forbids me from having this pleasure:(
My family members are all non-veg except my grandparents.So,I have no restrictions over what I eat.

[dOm1naTOr]

so the non vegs are weak to controls their instincts.
they fight for it, even if they knew its not rite/good. they fell for its taste. theydun even accept the fact in fear of losing it....mmnnn
:D:D:D:D

[gagandeep]

so the non vegs are weak to controls their instincts.
they fight for it, even if they knew its not rite/good. they fell for its taste. theydun even accept the fact in fear of losing it....mmnnn
:D:D:D:D
I actually fell for the proteins.....;)

[sourav123]

I support the idea on sticking to whatever you like. We should not disregard people just because they are non-veg or veg. After all, food habit is a very personal thing.

As for me, I tried to become a veggie a few times. But for me the problem was getting good veg goods (I am a hardcore foodie and I eat because I love to eat, not because I have to). Since I live alone (without family) in Bangalore, I eat either in office or in some hotel. I can't withstand south Indian veg (or maybe the cooking is bad), and I dont get good north India veg in either my office or nearby hotels. So, I again came back to being a non veggie. I should emphasize here that if I had some homemade food or some good veg food, I would have probably turned into a veggie. But as of now, I am a non veg.

[windchimes]

i have to repeat, EAT whatever you wish. It is your choice.Even all supporters of vegetarianism know that they wont succeed in a day or two to bring all non vegs to their club.

BUT show some respect to these animals. Don't let them suffer horribly and make sure
they are kept in proper hygienic conditions.

( By the way, somewhere I heard that non vegs slowly start to build animal traits inside them ;-) )

[goobimama]

thats all for the uncivilized humans..millions of years ago.
we are civilized now...so, i think we shud act like a civilized.

just imagine, if there was another creature on earth which has better intelligence. We mush have been perished if they adopt same strategy of eating the easy catch [they wont coz i already said...they are more intelligent :D ].

and sure loss of life is involved when pesticides and insecticides are employed on crops, but we can make sure we dun eat them [or like to eat].
lions and tiger hunt their prey with claws and eat them raw.
humans raise animals and kill them with knifes and eat them cooked.
this shows both has similar culture but humans are bit more intelligent.

and btw, the main reason y im veggie is wat din and goobimama said. And im proud. Atleast i can smile at the animals without seeing fear in their eyes [ i gettin senti:-| ]
I have no problem admitting that eating animals is bad and a veggie diet is a good way to go, just don't tell me that it is not natural to do so. In fact, I did my college project on "Do animals have rights? A philosophical and ethical study into the way humans affect animals". I even concluded that it is indeed wrong to kill animals for food especially given the conditions that animals are treated these days. Just that it is not unnatural to eat animals. That's all I had to say.

I don't think eating fish is unethical though. Their consciousness is very low, and since they aren't bred under pathetic conditions like chickens, I think its okay to have a fish diet. Although, deep sea fishing is pretty much exhausting all the fishes out there, which is again a cause for concern.

[FilledVoid]

thats all for the uncivilized humans..millions of years ago.
we are civilized now...so, i think we shud act like a civilized.

Lol I can't believe this. People are throwing statements out there like being civilized based on the meals they eat. I've heard that "You are what you eat" but this takes things to a way different level. Seriously tread carefully.

I appreciate all of you being a Veg and stuff like that. Good for you. But do not ever question how civilized half the world is because you are a vegetarian. So please spare the rest the little ethical seminar.

so the non vegs are weak to controls their instincts.
Oh by the way? What instincts? Care to elaborate?

By choice, choosing something or asking someone to make a change is fine. But don't push it.

[sreevirus]

To all the vegetarians here, the vegans probably might be thinking you vegetarians are cruel, coz you have milk and other diary products, not to mention wearing woolen clothes during winter.

So stop making judgements already. People don't become evil just because they have non-vegetarian food. Its not a crime to eat meat. And there is definitely no instincts involved here. Human beings can digest meat. All the ethical beliefs are, well, just beliefs made by some other human beings.

I just fed the cat outside some leftover chicken. Cats are obligate carnivores. So did I do something evil?

[amitava82]

May be its not relevant to this topic: What does it mean to be human? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViMx2ptIfaI)

[gagandeep]

( By the way, somewhere I heard that non vegs slowly start to build animal traits inside them ;-) )
From where & whom??......:lol: :lol:

[2kewl]

Veg. since 1987 (thats when I was born :))!

[axxo]

I'm pure Non-veg, ever since birth. Non-Veggie FTW!!! Veggie WTF!!!

[windchimes]

From where & whom??......:lol: :lol:

Somewhere long back.No scientific proof . But seeing certain "performances" in real world
I feel that it is true :)).

[phreak0ut]

There was a program conducted at ISKCON and I had attended it with my friend. They showed how animals are treated and why we should not eat meat,etc, etc. We watched the gore and we had decided not to eat meat. But, within 2 weeks, we were craving for butter chicken and tandoori chicken :lol: Guys, stop this stupid fight and eat what you want. If you are not interested in eating and someone is forcing it down your throat, you have the right to beat the crap out of him. Stop being so damn philosophical. Be and let us be what we are :)

[amitava82]

^^ Well that proves that you are too weak to give up something you like... :D

[T159]

Has anyone here been a non-vegetarian and then converted to Veg?
me ! Its been moar than 5 years now

I eat non-veg whenever I can, maybe will try some new meat soon. Rest all things and debates I just don't care.
next time try pressed dawgs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat)and one bite of hand. Something new, you know !