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Cyrus_the_virus
26-02-2008, 09:04 PM
Here is a PDF file that will give an idea of what Open Office is and hopefully make a switch if they feel like.

Here's the download link from the original authors site: http://www.fanaticattack.com/SwitchingOfficeSuitesfromMicrosoftOfficetoOpenOffi ce.pdf

gx_saurav
26-02-2008, 09:06 PM
Shell we consider this as advertising OpenOffice.org?

Cyrus_the_virus
26-02-2008, 09:22 PM
Shell we consider this as advertising OpenOffice.org?


Microsoft MVP
My Blog : http://gxsaurav.spaces.live.com


So, tell me, you had a question about advertising?:rolleyes:

Zeeshan Quireshi
26-02-2008, 09:26 PM
So, tell me, you had a question about advertising?:rolleyes:
We're allowed to Link to our Blogs in our Signatures , same does not apply to posts .

Advertising in Posts is not allowed . {I'm not saying this post is an ad }

gx_saurav
26-02-2008, 09:27 PM
Ya, I am telling people about my blog & also telling them my award. I am also not advertising any Microsoft product in my signature.

You are not telling people about your blog & not telling them about some award. You are telling them about an OSS Product & telling them to switch, in a manner advertising them.

Cyrus_the_virus
26-02-2008, 09:32 PM
You are not telling people about your blog & not telling them about some award. You are telling them about an OSS Product & telling them to switch, in a manner advertising them.

http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif

OMG! and do you have any idea how many 1000's I earn by advertising opensource alternatives from somebody's blog here http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/21.gif

We're allowed to Link to our Blogs in our Signatures , same does not apply to posts .

Your answer

* Signatures
Signatures will NOT contain links/HTML of any kind. Members sporting such signatures will find them mysteriously deleted.

I guess everyone is doing it regardless of the rules :D


Advertising in Posts is not allowed . I'm not saying this post is an ad

Thank you, and I guess that answers @gx's question.

rohan_shenoy
26-02-2008, 09:41 PM
Shell we consider this as advertising OpenOffice.org?
lol.....Cyrus dude chill............hes joking :)

Cyrus_the_virus
26-02-2008, 10:12 PM
lol.....Cyrus dude chill............hes joking :)

I know.. but at the same time, he wishes that somebody starts thinking it's propaganda :D

infra_red_dude
26-02-2008, 11:58 PM
Here is a PDF file that will give an idea of what Open Office is and hopefully make a switch if they feel like.

Here's the download link from the original authors site: http://www.fanaticattack.com/SwitchingOfficeSuitesfromMicrosoftOfficetoOpenOffi ce.pdf
And the point is?? I think this is where F/OSS gets a bad name. Instead of making statements like "Switch from MS Office" a title like "What can OOo do?" would've been better.

Instead of showing something in bad light, highlighting one's own merits can do a lot of good. And if someone thinks I'm MS Office user then its wrong! I am a full-time OOo user on Windows as well as on GNU/Linux.

iMav
27-02-2008, 12:01 AM
he wishes that somebody starts thinking it's propaganda
which even the smartest of individuals with the sharpest of intellect can confirm to :)

*Note: This is Chit-Chat

Zeeshan Quireshi
27-02-2008, 12:02 AM
And the point is?? I think this is where F/OSS gets a bad name. Instead of making statements like "Switch from MS Office" a title like "What can OOo do?" would've been better.

Instead of showing something in bad light, highlighting one's own merits can do a lot of good. And if someone thinks I'm MS Office user then its wrong! I am a full-time OOo user on Windows as well as on GNU/Linux.
Totally True . Putting forward one's benefits is much more than showing the other's pitfalls .

Especially , campaigns like BadVista , by organizations such as FSF only decreases their own merits .

kalpik
27-02-2008, 12:12 AM
which even a dumb fcuk* can confirm to :)

*Note: This is Chit-Chat
Yes, and its STILL a part of thinkdigit forum. And the rules apply here too. What do you mean by that statement of yours? Just because its chit chat, you can do whatever you like? You JUST came out of your ban, and going by the looks of it, you haven't learned anything.. Im not taking any action this time. But you know it yourself, this was a good enough reason to ban you again.

Hitboxx
27-02-2008, 12:16 AM
Another war thread. Ok.Totally True . Putting forward one's benefits is much more than showing the other's pitfalls .

Especially , campaigns like BadVista , by organizations such as FSF only decreases their own merits .
Why only Badvista? What about "Know the Facts" and "How to remove Linux" and "Linux is a cancer" attempts by MS?

You want a fair trial, round it off both ways!

iMav
27-02-2008, 12:18 AM
Yes, and its STILL a part of thinkdigit forum. And the rules apply here too. What do you mean by that statement of yours? Just because its chit chat, you can do whatever you like? You JUST came out of your ban, and going by the looks of it, you haven't learned anything.. Im not taking any action this time. But you know it yourself, this was a good enough reason to ban you again.oh yeah i forgot i was at think-anti-ms.com/forums :lol: sorry my bad, editing my previous post :)

kalpik
27-02-2008, 12:24 AM
Ok.. The flames end now.. I guess what Cyrus meant is now clear from the entire discussion. Infra's post gave us a little insight on it too. Now there is no reason to fight on this.

oh yeah i forgot i was at think-anti-ms.com/forums :lol: sorry my bad, editing my previous post :)
Last edited by iMav : Today at 12:19 AM. Reason: i wet my pants after kalpik's threat

Are you trying to provoke me?

Cyrus_the_virus
27-02-2008, 12:28 AM
And the point is?? I think this is where F/OSS gets a bad name. Instead of making statements like "Switch from MS Office" a title like "What can OOo do?" would've been better.

Instead of showing something in bad light, highlighting one's own merits can do a lot of good. And if someone thinks I'm MS Office user then its wrong! I am a full-time OOo user on Windows as well as on GNU/Linux.

http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/20.gif
I was just posting the document which I thought would be helpful. Now it's turned out to be an all out OS fight! BTW, I can't change the title of the actual document, can I? hence the reason I stuck with it.

@guys who are fighting here, if you don't get it, let me repeat it. It's just a document how anyone scared to make the transition from MS office to open office can do it. If you think it would help you, read the document else sthu http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/26.gif Don't turn this into Windows v/s Linux when this has nothing to do with either one of them.

gx_saurav
27-02-2008, 12:32 AM
Even the test is flawed. The guy is comparing the UI of OpenOffice.org latest version with Office 2003 :D. WTH.....Office 2007 UI makes everything much easier, no more need to dig through all the menus.

Not only that, he compares Office 2003 but says "Office 2007 document format will not open in old computers"...ever heard about Office 2007 compatibility pack for office 2003?

Now, if this isn't plain FUD & advertising...I don't know how else to define it.

FilledVoid
27-02-2008, 12:41 AM
Even the test is flawed. The guy is comparing the UI of OpenOffice.org latest version with Office 2003 .
Yeah that did seem kind of strange and not fair :S .

I dont have MS Office 2007 so out of curiosity can I customize the UI (the shortcut icons etc) in it? I heard somewhere it doesnt allow that. Im not saying its a flaw Im just curious.

For the OS Product war people. Give it a rest already.

iMav
27-02-2008, 12:42 AM
Are you trying to provoke me?
no, im not trying to provoke u, but only trying to bring to attention the fact that u chose to nitpick a word i used which was a general term and u know as good as i do that in the context i used it, it was directed at no 1, on the other hand u having read infra's reply and recommending others to read infra's reply did not even mention or do what infra suggested and chose to blindly ignore the provocative title that has been used insipite of knowing how things happen here. Oh damn i just turned to the left of my screen and noticed ur avatar :oops:

'nuff said

faraaz
27-02-2008, 12:57 AM
As long as OpenOffice is not flawlessly compatible with Office 2007 and is able to produce OpenXML format documents and presentations which work flawlessly in Office 2007...I'm not going to look at it also. For me, the only reason to use Office is producing reports and presentations and doing excel statistics stuff...90% of my assignments are done in group works, and 100% are submitted to lecturers who use Office 2007. Using Open Office basically prevents me from working on these files efficiently. Yes, I know getting them to send it in the old 2003 format would work, but when you are in a group of 8-9 people and you are the only one using the other software, no one cares...

Cyrus_the_virus
27-02-2008, 01:10 AM
Even the test is flawed. The guy is comparing the UI of OpenOffice.org latest version with Office 2003 :D. WTH.....Office 2007 UI makes everything much easier, no more need to dig through all the menus.

Not only that, he compares Office 2003 but says "Office 2007 document format will not open in old computers"...ever heard about Office 2007 compatibility pack for office 2003?

Now, if this isn't plain FUD & advertising...I don't know how else to define it.

Dude, get a life, this is not a review or a head to head comparison to anything, this is just an article for helping anyone make the switch. Stop your cr@p whining at once before it's reported and try somewhere else to start a fight.

no, im not trying to provoke u, but only trying to bring to attention the fact that u chose to nitpick a word i used which was a general term and u know as good as i do that in the context i used it, it was directed at no 1, on the other hand u having read infra's reply and recommending others to read infra's reply did not even mention or do what infra suggested and chose to blindly ignore the provocative title that has been used insipite of knowing how things happen here. Oh damn i just turned to the left of my screen and noticed ur avatar :oops:

'nuff said

@imeov, Mods are supposed to be respected and not your sarcastic puppets. @kalpik is no less important that any other mods here, so if you think that just because he is part of OSS, he's any different, then you'll see what comes next and please stop your sarcastic cr@p.

infra_red_dude
27-02-2008, 01:20 AM
All those fighting here.. temme frankly how many of you actually read the pdf?

The author has simply ruined the whole thing! After page 4 or so there is no mention of "switch from MSO" etc. All the next 9 pages highlight the features of OOo. It'd haf been better if he'd titled it "OOo features".

Ther interface hasn't been compared. The author says that anyone familiar with MSO inteface can get his/her way thru in OOo (obviously MSO has retained the same interface since years and only now made a switch).

SO BEFORE FIGHTING HERE LIKE FOOLS, ITS BETTER IF YOU ALL GO THRU WHATS BEEN POSTED.

Sure MS Office can't be replaced where VBA is put to use (thanks to Charan for reminding abut VBA) but at least small firms' HR/Admin dept. shouldn't find much of a problem in switching. Nobody needs a full blown office for typing letters. So what I think is that switch should be made where it can. But using assertive words, showing the rival product in bad light and then preaching about the product is folly and being shameless.

I hate the 'badvista' (FSF) and 'linux is cancer'(MS) campaigns. It just shows how cheap those ******* are!

iMav
27-02-2008, 01:28 AM
@imeov, Mods are supposed to be respected and not your sarcastic puppets. @kalpik is no less important that any other mods here, so if you think that just because he is part of OSS, he's any different, then you'll see what comes next and please stop your sarcastic cr@p. how about going thru the article before posting it here and then giving it an appropriate title and then posting it :rolleyes:

infra_red_dude
27-02-2008, 01:35 AM
^^^ I dont' think thats appropriate. Changing original titles is a bad practice. I was not pointing about Cyrus, but was referring to the original author of the document.

iMav
27-02-2008, 01:38 AM
o cmon ani there are ways of posting,give an appropriate title acc. to u as u are not quoting some life changing or an influential individual's post. if 1 actually needs to do things ethically, politically and morally correct then the original title should be given in the beginning of the post with as a link to the original text and followed by an excerpt of the article in quote because now u are quoting an individual :)

din
27-02-2008, 08:06 AM
I didn't go through the pdf at all !! But I use Open Office in all PCs in my office and in my laptop and I am quite satisfied with it.

There may be things which Open Office can't do or things which are only in MS office, but for common man, Open Office is quite adequate. I have a wide variety of friends (form Civil Engineer to an Ice cream manufacturer) who use Open Office more than me and they never had any problems using that.

What my point is, a lot of people can switch to OO as it will be enough for their needs. For people who really need to use MS Office because of certain features (like Infra said - the VB features as example), do not go for OO (of course not majority considering Indian scenario) plus those who support MS and love to use MS products always - use MS office happily !

@kalpik

IMav is one of my great friends. And I know he is one of the most immature guy in this forum whos an expert in provoking others too !!! He was warned / suspended many times because of that but he continues. Best way is to ignore him in most cases and yes I know as you are a mod, you can't ignore everything, was just telling though.

Back to the topic - Do not follow something blindly. Use your brains. Use all products that we come across. If OO is quite adequate for you, use that (instead of using pirated MS Office of other commercial stuff). If it is not ok for you, go for other products, do not blindly rely on any review or any company. As simple as it.

kalpik
27-02-2008, 08:13 AM
no, im not trying to provoke u, but only trying to bring to attention the fact that u chose to nitpick a word i used which was a general term and u know as good as i do that in the context i used it, it was directed at no 1, on the other hand u having read infra's reply and recommending others to read infra's reply did not even mention or do what infra suggested and chose to blindly ignore the provocative title that has been used insipite of knowing how things happen here. Oh damn i just turned to the left of my screen and noticed ur avatar :oops:

'nuff said
I was not nitpicking on the word you used. I was nitpicking at the sentence you used after that word (*this is chit chat, and i can do whatever the hell i want here*). iMav, try to learn to respect other users on this forum.

You have earned yourself an infarction.


@kalpik

IMav is one of my great friends. And I know he is one of the most immature guy in this forum whos an expert in provoking others too !!! He was warned / suspended many times because of that but he continues. Best way is to ignore him in most cases and yes I know as you are a mod, you can't ignore everything, was just telling though.
Din, I know that very well. That is exactly the reason why im not banning him again :p I have nothing against ANYONE on this forum. But he's gotta learn how to behave on public forums. Maybe you can help him? :)

For the records, i do use OpenOffice on linux, but yeah in office an all we use MS Office only.

P.S.: My resume doesnt open properly in OpenOffice :p

MetalheadGautham
27-02-2008, 08:15 AM
@kalpik: remember my PM ? you should have moderated looooooong back, copied the contents of the pdf to the first post(to let ppl kno whats in da pdf), removed offending stuff and put this in tutorials.

how the hell can a simple guide cause an OS flame war ?

din
27-02-2008, 08:17 AM
But he's gotta learn how to behave on public forums. Maybe you can help him? :)

Oh noooooooo !!!!!

If you ask me to count the stars, I will do it, but advising iMav ? I gave up that long back, now who said "Nothing is impossible", I just found something that is impossible lol.

FilledVoid
27-02-2008, 10:32 AM
@kalpik: remember my PM ? you should have moderated looooooong back, copied the contents of the pdf to the first post(to let ppl kno whats in da pdf), removed offending stuff and put this in tutorials.


I hope you do understand theres a fine line between a persons life and the time he spends on this forum. Not to mention I think hes doing a good job of moderating considering he just joined the list of new mods. If I posted a link to a 100 page document would you expect him to go read all 100 pages and then edit it to fit a thread. Be realistic hes a mod not Flash (the super hero).

gx_saurav
27-02-2008, 10:42 AM
Dude, get a life, this is not a review or a head to head comparison to anything, this is just an article for helping anyone make the switch. Stop your cr@p whining at once before it's reported and try somewhere else to start a fight.

It is a flawed & unfair article telling you to switch to latest version of OpenOffice.org from 5 years old version of Office. Why didn't he compare Office 2007 with OpenOffice if he wanted to talk about Ease of Use, features etc. Does OpenOffice has an online library of more powerpoint effects, word tamplates etc?

All those fighting here.. temme frankly how many of you actually read the pdf?


I have.

OpenOffice is good, if you are in 1995. If you are a single user in a home & hardly need word processing applications other then writing letters or Resume once in a while then yeah, OpenOffice or even Abiword is enough along with Word/PowerPoint/Excel 2007 viewer.

din
27-02-2008, 10:59 AM
OpenOffice is good, if you are in 1995.

I have no clue on what basis you are talking this !! Do you go out of your home / office to see what others use ? I go and what I wrote is from what I see.

Open office is good in 2008 and it wil lbe even better in the coming years. A lot of people / offices / institutions in India use open office and that is quite adequate for them.

Please remember, majority of the office softwares are NOT tech gurus or even in the IT field ! Yes, I mean it, any doubts ? ?

The huge majority who use office suite use it for not-very-complicated stuff which may be available only in MS Office or other commercial product. As I mentioned already, there are two types of people - one, who need MS office as it is has things like VBA and second, blind followers of MS. These does not means the majority.

And most users use MS office because it is "free" for them installed by the hardware guy and secondly they think office suit = MS office (before it was computer = windows lol).

When you get a a chance, go out of the office or home, go to super markets, govt offices, institutions and places where office suits are used more and using an un-biased analysis (give it a try !) you can very easily find out OO is best suited for that section of the society which is majority.

Open eyes sometimes, it does not hurt ;)

legolas
27-02-2008, 11:05 AM
.... and hopefully make a switch if they feel like.

Personally, I don't have any difference in opinion regarding the content of this thread. However, I realize your title "Switch from M$ to OOo" has made all the difference. You better knew about Chit Chat section and its difference from Fight Club. It is not difficult to know this title definitely seeks combatting replies. It simply is.

However, again, as I have quoted your post, it doesn't insist or advertise and is written by not villifying any. I therefore only think that the intended title of the post is only an honest mistake.
I read the pdf and honestly am not impressed. It doesn't even discuss 10% of the humongous potential M$ has. Which misleads me to the possibility of an advertisement, but then its sick of the original author to have posted so... Taking on M$ office by telling that OOo has more potential features is funny... while they must insist on sufficient features for amateur users as Din pointed above and exploit it being open source...

Take it easy guys!!

lywyre
27-02-2008, 11:56 AM
I am still convinced that all features in O2007 (not the GUI) are backward compatible in 02003. I just think it as an effort by MS to stop the advance of OO, as OO is capable of handling .doc, .xls, .ppt etc, well enough. They have just changed the UI, skewed the features a bit and gave an extra character to the file extension.

On the other hand, I am convinced with the features of OO, but I would like to be much faster than it is now. Also, I feel it is getting as bloated as MS Office suites are getting.

In my opinion, Office 2000 is more than enough for most office works.

P.S: I use Office 2007, because I have share documents of other people who use Office 2007. I always save my files in .doc and also .rtf whenever possible.

gx_saurav
27-02-2008, 12:40 PM
Please remember, majority of the office softwares are NOT tech gurus or even in the IT field ! Yes, I mean it, any doubts ? ?

Wait, who told you that u need to be a tech guru to master or use Office 2007??

When you get a a chance, go out of the office or home, go to super markets, govt offices, institutions and places where office suits are used more and using an un-biased analysis (give it a try !) you can very easily find out OO is best suited for that section of the society which is majority.

I see them using Office 2003/2007 flawlessly.

gave an extra character to the file extension.

Lolz....do u know about the benefits of the new XML based file format of Office 2007 :D

vish786
27-02-2008, 12:48 PM
with 35 bull$hit replies... Did anyone cared to click on link... its not even working... :mad:

@cyrus.... upload it on rapidshare or somewhere else if you have the copy.

din
27-02-2008, 12:56 PM
Wait, who told you that u need to be a tech guru to master or use Office 2007??


Oh no !! Not the iMav syndrome, please no.

All others got what I meant. What I meant is (assuming you are not into iMavism much) the huge majority of office suit users, use it not for any hi-fi things. Do I need to explain again and again and again ? ? I never meant to say someone has to be a tech guru to learn Office 2007 lol, if I say that it will be a nice joke, you know it very well.


I see them using Office 2003/2007 flawlessly.

I also see a lot of people who will be using Office 2007 / 2008 flawlessly, but I categorise them into 4 now (yes small change - lol)

1. MVPs who get things free

2. Blind supporters of MS

3. Those who get the "free" version from computer hardware guys

4. Those who really need MS office to do their work (may be less then 10% ? )

Now how many offices / institutes you see people using MS Office very happily after paying for it ? Please type in the number (it will not take much space to type that number ;) ) I am eagerly waiting for it.

It may sound rude, but as I mentioned before, it is pretty easy sitting in the office chair and typing things by assuming everything, again, give it one more try to open your eyes, give it one more try to go out, to see what people use, why they use it, what they really need, how much they need to spend for it and try to analyze un-biased.

@Others, I am sorry, but couldn't resist lol.

nish_higher
27-02-2008, 01:03 PM
Making the leap: Microsoft Word to OpenOffice.org Writer
http://www.linux.com/articles/44314

The pdf link posted in this thread does not work but i think the article would be similar.this article posted in 2008 compares Office 2k3 and OO (no i m not saying MS rocks-so stay quiet!) and yea what Din mentioned is totally true.and its worth shifting to OO rather than living life of a thief

din
27-02-2008, 01:06 PM
and yea what Din mentioned is totally true.and its worth shifting to OO rather than living life of a thief

Oh, thanks a lot for the support man, and I see there is "country for old men" ;)

infra_red_dude
27-02-2008, 01:23 PM
o cmon ani there are ways of posting,give an appropriate title acc. to u as u are not quoting some life changing or an influential individual's post. if 1 actually needs to do things ethically, politically and morally correct then the original title should be given in the beginning of the post with as a link to the original text and followed by an excerpt of the article in quote because now u are quoting an individual :)
What happens when users are given freedom to change the title according to what they wish?? Fanboy wars!!! MS users will give a title: FOSS software sux and post an article about Linux/BSD; FOSS guys will say: MS are a bunch of ******* and post something bad about MS/Products. See the implications of allowing users to choose their titles? Aren't we hafing enuf of it already?

It is a flawed & unfair article telling you to switch to latest version of OpenOffice.org from 5 years old version of Office.

Why didn't he compare Office 2007 with OpenOffice if he wanted to talk about Ease of Use, features etc.

I have [read].
Clearly states you are lying! You haf just scrolled thru the screenshots and I'm 100% sure of it (tho I haf no means to prove it!).

The author has shamelessly asked people to Switch from MS Office in the first 3 pages. In the next 12 pages or so he says that UI of OOo is similar to what UI of MSO was (again, what UI we see in MSO 2k7 wasn't an eternal one. They've just made a switch to ribbons). Hence people would not find it difficult to get many things done in OOo. He's not comparing features of OOo in those pages but suggesting things on how to make lives earier for those who are used to OOo. Comparing is one thing and suggesting changes is another!

Does OpenOffice has an online library of more powerpoint effects, word tamplates etc?
If you'd not blatantly lied but really read the article then you'd haf noticed that the author has mentioned exactly what you said. OOo doesn't haf the huge cache of templates/online library.

OpenOffice is good, if you are in 1995. If you are a single user in a home & hardly need word processing applications other then writing letters or Resume once in a while then yeah, OpenOffice or even Abiword is enough along with Word/PowerPoint/Excel 2007 viewer.
Temme what features does an admin/HR dept. of a company need from an Office suite?

People just don't get it and argue just for the sake of it. Do you know there are companies which earn their bread and butter by making VBA modules for MSO???? What would happen if they switched to OOo? They'd go bankrupt! On the other hand what would happen if home users/small offices/admin depts. etc. switch to OOo? They would save a lot of cash.

So before blindly supporting OOo or MSO just use your rusted brainz a bit!

gx_saurav
27-02-2008, 01:35 PM
Temme what features does an admin/HR dept. of a company need from an Office suite?

Basic Word processing, making presentations, Statistics on spreadsheet....

Colloborating with other HR/Admins on the same data. Real time convertion & integration of new data, overseas transfer of sales stats etc...

Let me know of OpenOffice can do it.

If the auther has said himself that OpenOffice lacks an online library, then why switch? What makes OOO better then Office 2007? Isn't it simply advertising an inferior product?

OpenOffice is good cos most people only use basic things which even OOO supports. This is enough for home users, but when it comes to accessing more stuff via the online library which is free for users of MS Office, OOO fails.

iMav
27-02-2008, 01:41 PM
not to forget the live office integration which having used the beta i absolutely love

infra_red_dude
27-02-2008, 02:14 PM
Basic Word processing, making presentations, Statistics on spreadsheet....

Colloborating with other HR/Admins on the same data. Real time convertion & integration of new data, overseas transfer of sales stats etc...
Do you even haf an idea what you typed? :lol: Or are you posting just for the heck of it??!!

If the auther has said himself that OpenOffice lacks an online library, then why switch? What makes OOO better then Office 2007? Isn't it simply advertising an inferior product?
Quote me an instance where the author has said that OOo is better than MSO!!!!!!

....but when it comes to accessing more stuff via the online library which is free for users of MS Office, OOO fails.
This is exactly what the author has said, that OOo doesn't haf an exhaustive library like MSO. Many things can be imported. But still MSO is the king :)

READ READ READ...

not to forget the live office integration which having used the beta i absolutely love
True. +1 for MSO :)

lywyre
27-02-2008, 02:17 PM
Lolz....do u know about the benefits of the new XML based file format of Office 2007 :D

Yes. Indeed I am and I most welcome MS using the XML standards. But, I insist that MS embrace the technology in full and extend the same to all, instead of keeping it closed and proprietary.

As I already said, I myself use Office 2007, just because I have to share documents of other people, which they are forced to save with .docx or .xlsx or so (read MS Office 2007 format).

Maverick340
27-02-2008, 02:56 PM
Office Suite( Word and Powerpoint ) is used like once in a month , luckily. But thats just me maybe, there are plenty of students who need to make use of this suite so lets analyze them.
1. Typical College Student : Need to type project reports make presentation for seminars and talks. OpenOffice is good enough. In fact i have seen some people facing UI troubles with the "new" UI of MS Office 07. Since its not required , Open Office fits. However since i doubt their systems will have Open Office installed and i am pretty sure they have a copy of MS Office(2003 mostly) and it doest the work too, i see no reason why such person would go out of his way , download the Open office suite and learn to use it..
at this point i can only comment from a students view , don't know about working class .. others may elaborate :)

The only reason i see to remove MS Office 07 from my PC and install Open Office is space constraints ( i am guessing OOo takes lesser space ) or if guys in black suits with a shiny star like golden badge came over to inspect my PC ;)
Oh also i wish MS would'nt have been such a female-dog and introduced the new XML format. Any particular advantage ?

infra_red_dude
27-02-2008, 03:24 PM
The only reason i see to remove MS Office 07 from my PC and install Open Office is space constraints ( i am guessing OOo takes lesser space ) or if guys in black suits with a shiny star like golden badge came over to inspect my PC ;)
Yep, Thats coz we are used to eating "free food"!


Oh also i wish MS would'nt have been such a female-dog
lolz... :lol:

and introduced the new XML format. Any particular advantage ?
Read more here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338205.aspx#office2007aboutnewfileformat_benefit softhenewfileformat

Personally, I don't care if OpenXML or OpenDocument becomes the standard. I just want a format to become standard so that I can use it on any platform/software.

Maverick340
27-02-2008, 03:30 PM
True, the day the "free food" is no longer available , hands down OpenOffice will rule.. 8 out of 10 will go download OpenOffice. And not just because no one wants to pay. I am sure 6 out of 10 will pay for a good AV like Avira or Kaspersky, but because OOo CAN DO IT !

gx_saurav
27-02-2008, 03:41 PM
As I already said, I myself use Office 2007, just because I have to share documents of other people, which they are forced to save with .docx or .xlsx or so (read MS Office 2007 format).

No, Wrong, FUD. You can save to the old Office 2003 compatible format too with Office 2007.

lywyre
27-02-2008, 04:26 PM
^^ Thats the problem. I cannot push every one to save in classic format (97-2003), cause I don't even know the people who bring me those files before they give it to me. They just use it because they, as some one said above, are having "free food". They want to have the latest for free.

Cyrus_the_virus
27-02-2008, 04:41 PM
with 35 bull$hit replies... Did anyone cared to click on link... its not even working... :mad:

@cyrus.... upload it on rapidshare or somewhere else if you have the copy.

It's working, i just checked.;)

MetalheadGautham
27-02-2008, 04:57 PM
whats wrong in a simple tutorial teaching people how to try out something new?

@saurav: you say that its unfair to compare OOo with M#Office 2003. But you fail to get the point of this tut. There are people out there using Office 2003. They can't just cough up lots of cash for a program upgrade. Instead, the author is helping them rid this problem. Does microsoft help these people by offering M$Office 2007 in exchange for their old copy of M$O2003 ? No it doesn't. So you can't try to argue on that point.

comming to the fetures OOo lacks. all of them have workarounds, but these can't be argued against, due to the fact that nobody cheats you by selling a product without some fetures which you expected. Its offered to you for free. And for the premium you pay to M$O2007/8, I would instead gladly apply the workarounds to OOo.

Then there is the original question, as to why this is not an advertisement. This is just an article that helps you avoid unnessassary finantial investments on your part. Just imagine. You could save the 2k for M$O and use it to get a better CPU or GPU for the new comp you are buying. or you could get more RAM for your current comp. Or, you can get an years supply of bhelpuri, which you can happily eat.

din
27-02-2008, 05:12 PM
@MetalheadGautham

Sorry, but no use in telling that point to GX ! I tried it many times, and failed lol. We had similar thread before comparing Open Office and others. He know it very well (OO can save a lot of $$ and a lot of people can use it) but he wil lnot agree it openly lol.

lywyre
27-02-2008, 06:02 PM
No, Wrong, FUD. You can save to the old Office 2003 compatible format too with Office 2007.
I mean by default.

faraaz
27-02-2008, 06:28 PM
I mean by default.

The option is there if you go into Word settings...but to be honest, not many people bother with that anymore. And file sizes are SOO small when you use .docx or .pptx format. Not a problem with Word files usually, but try emailing 80 slide ppt presentations in the old format...cant be done.

legolas
27-02-2008, 06:54 PM
guys, I think we are making a big deal out of this. Lets stop here! :)

drgrudge
27-02-2008, 07:05 PM
Sorry, but no use in telling that point to GX ! I tried it many times, and failed lol. We had similar thread before comparing Open Office and others. He know it very well (OO can save a lot of $$ and a lot of people can use it) but he wil lnot agree it openly lol.
Hehehe.. true. He came and posted things in another thread. I asked a simple question: "What can't OOo do which MS Office can?". I'm not a big office suite geek or use it extensively - so was just curious.

Then came a barrage of replies from you-know-who which I couldn't understand. :lol: He says this and that is possible or ornamented in MS Office, some wacky stuffs are possible, etc.. which I've never heard in my life or have any practical usage. What's the point of using something if you can't understand or have common day today use.


I've seen many offices. They use MS Office only but only for basic tasks which OOo is more than sufficient. I'm not saying OOo is better than Paid softwares. I use MS Office 2008 and iWork because I found FOSS alternatives not 'working' properly in my PC.